Cincinnati, OH 
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Uploaded By: sisyphus Hole #5 (Taken 7/2014)
3 / 265ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #5 Basket to Tee

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 Definitely NOT worth it!

1    5/31/2013   6/5/2013
Review By: DisCat13
Played: 110  Reviewed: 21  Exp: 18.6 Years
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The area on the Cincinnati State campus is very nice and well maintained.

It is centrally located in the heart of Cincinnati.
Cons: Where to begin...

The parking situation is pretty awful. The directions here say you can find a spot to park on the street but I saw nothing but no parking signs everywhere on the main street. Once you pull into the campus there are parking lots that are for faculty and maintenance only. This is where I parked but was nervous when I was there the whole time. Unless you want to pay $5.00 to park in the garage and walk a half-mile to the course, there is no other option to park.

The course itself is very problematic. Again, the directions say that hole one starts in lot A. I searched for a good 8-10 minutes and couldn't find any marker or spot to tee off from, so eventually. I just picked a spot on my own. This is the case for ALL holes! Nothing is marked, there are little wooden stakes that I went with at first, but there was over 12 of them and it is a nine hole course, so I think they had something to do with the campus and not the course.

I found baskets 1-8 but again looked for about 10 minutes for basket 9 and could not find it. There are no signs, maps, or directions making navigation and full completion of the nine holes very difficult.

I never felt very welcomed here either. I said hello to a couple of people and got a look like, "what are you doing here?" I asked someone about the course and got a brief and cold response that obviously was no help.
Other Thoughts: This course is not worth any stop at all. Tale the time to go up to the professional grade, Mt. Airy Forest that is just moments away from here. Also, Idlewild in Burlington, KY is not far either and is exceptional.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Play on a Botanical Garden Hill

5+    7/5/2014   9/3/2012
Review By: sisyphus
Played: 300  Reviewed: 283  Exp: 6.1 Years
This review was updated on 7/5/2014
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Update 7/5/14: I think the botanists win out over the disc golfers. Which is only a plus in that the place is beautiful. And the flash animated map mentioned in my review WAS the coolest thing I've seen in disc golf (but has been abandoned, as well). Look into cons for my edit.

Surge DGC at Cincinnati State (aka Copperleaf) is a relatively challenging nine hole course in the middle of town, and easily accessible near Interstate 75, so folks coming through town who want to stretch their legs (especially on a weekend) might want to see this unique course situated on a collegiate hillside botanical garden. There are educational signs all over describing features of the plantings, the paving, and so on, so if you have family with you that are more interested in gardening than disc golf, they can easily be entertained here while you get in a round.

Holes work their way back and forth the hillside, where you are forced to go left, right, straight, and tight, by the park-like trees and plantings that are extremely well maintained by the college. The landscaping itself is superb, while the disc golf holes range from 185 to 405 feet in length (depending on where you tee for #2 - there are two spots, depending on which map you follow), and possibly 500' up and around the blind hill. There are plenty of places for players with bigger arms than me to use the sidewalks creatively to lengthen the holes and increase difficulty. In fact, if you want to declare some areas out of bounds, like the raingarden area on hole 8, this course could challenge advanced and open players. In its intended state, it poses a decent challenge for rec to intermediate players.

The interactive map at http://itd1.cincinnatistate.e...flash_map.htmis one of the coolest things I've seen.
Cons: The 9th basket has been missing for at least six months (now 2 & 1/2 years). There are no trash cans or benches near the tees.

Navigation of the course would be very tricky without a map. For instance, The first tee is somewhere on the corner of the parking lot. Hole two tees off either on the central path up an indeterminate number of flights of stairs or somewhere unspecified along the sidewalk by the driveway, just to the right of the first basket. The fifth hole tees from the central stair/sidewalk again. You have to either hop over a guardrail or negotiate the steep hill 100' past the 5th basket to get to the 6th tee. The #7 tee is directly downhill below the 6th basket, and nearly invisible because of the mud running down over it. The 8th tee is marked by paint on the sidewalk below the main driveway, near one of the nation's biggest Gingko trees.

Only holes 3, 4, 6, (7), and 9 have dedicated tee areas, where they've used brick pavers, which seem to be the only neglected areas of the landscaping here. Some have weeds, and #7 is covered in mud, either of which can lead to slipping on your drives.

Edit 7/5/14: the tee on 7 has been obliterated by the sliding mud and can no longer be found. It does not feel right to throw anywhere near the rain garden area on 8, because we'd really harm it looking for a disc thrown in there.

Overall, the disc golf course seems to have been basically abandoned to the other landscaping. It's beautiful, but would be very frustrating if you didn't know the course. Sadly, to be accurate, I had to really drop my rating after playing there today.

They've added a beautifully landscaped raingarden which now constitutes the 8th fairway. I feel guilty throwing in there, and worry about trampling on the plantings, or possibly losing a disc there in the thick stuff.
Other Thoughts: I can't decide if this is a pro or a con: Hole 6 may be impossible for a beginner, with no clear flight path to the 300' basket. Big arms may be able to tomahawk over the tree in the fairway, but keeping a disc under a 5' high branch and running out along a hillside past another set of trees is a trick! I got lucky by accidentally firing my turnover beast through there, where it kicked up into a hillside roller to 6' from the pin!

This is a community college, and access might be limited during school sessions. I've gone on weekends, and had no trouble getting in to park, and have been alone on the course both times. I think the course gets relatively limited play, which might also be what the college wants in the long run: the botanical garden aspect of the landscape has clearly gotten the most attention. Not to say it isn't a really nice DG course: I'd recommend a visit either way!

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