Whatever Sisyphus Said!
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Pros: I really would like to copy the Sisyphus review word for word. His review really says it all and in a very eloquent style. I'd present him a second "thumbs up" if Tim would allow me. And after playing a round with him, I know him to be a slightly better player than myself but still a nice guy. And do you think I've poured on the ....manure deep enough for him to bestow a thumber on my review?
But I'll add just a bit. The North course is the one that starts near the park entrance. There is a $4 charge to enter the park. The course starts right next to the parking lot. There is a great colored course map here. The tees are concrete, grippy and nicely long. The tee signs are nice, technicolor models complete with distances for both Longs and Shorts. The longs and short really play as two different holes, sometimes a 150 foot difference, often one needs a hyser while the other require might require an annie. They're never just lined up behind each other courses are sometime designed.
As I started to play # 1, I thought this to be a nice easy rec course with # 1 measuring at 235' from the longs and 204' from the shorts. I also thought the entire course had these same slightly, faded Discatchers. I was mistaken in both counts. This is no rec course (from the longs) and the rest of the baskets looked to be newer and less faded Discatchers. I was pleased with the nicer baskets and not sure about the following 17 holes being somewhat more challenging. I'm good with easy recreational courses. I did appreciate the next tee signs pointing to both the long tee and the short tee pad. I played this course from the longs and only the longs have the tee signs.
North had some very pretty holes, classic in a golf course sense. I mean beautiful, natural fairways with just the right amount of elevation. # 2 was one of these classically, beautiful fairways as was 6,12, 13, 17 and 18. The course has a wonderful variety of holes, mixing longer holes with cool little Ace Runs and a couple of great up and over the gully holes. # 5 is one of the great little Ace Runs, it's 181 with just one tee pad and needed a closely threaded throw to get through the many small trees. 6 is another excellent hole. It plays 345' from the longs and 287' from the shorts. It plays over a fairly steep little gully. Steep enough that stairs have been cut into the slope and a rope is hung on the uphill side to help you reach the top. Kinda reminds me of my time spent on Everest (not!). The basket then sits up higher on the slope. Then 7 and 8 both throw over gullies. Neither are quite as dramatic as # 6 though. I felt # 10 was probably the most unique hole on either of the courses. It's just 171' from both tees but the basket isn't visible. As you walk up the fairway, you finally see the flag but as you walk further, you realize you're seeing the flag extension on top of another extension. The hole is set partways down a steep bank requiring a nice little soft touch shot.
I played # 15 from the short position. I might have been fatigued by this point. Anyway, 15 from the short is 276' and just the top of a flag is showing. Cool!
Cons: The # 11 sign is currently AWOL.
The course is tight at times. The rough is somewhat thick but I always felt the holes were playable and with fair Iines. I played today by myself and was just dandy with both courses.
Losing a disc is a possibility.
Other Thoughts: Other Thoughts: This is just a lovely course. It has a great variety of challenges, from tight fairways to big hysers, up hills and downhills, Ace Runs, some decently longer holes and roughs that can lead to added strokes. It probably plays from intermediate to a slightly challenging advanced level from the Longs while the Shorts are a fun, recreational course.
It's a very nicely designed course on a wonderful piece of real estate. Put the two together and we disc golfers are as happy as a pig in .....manure! Not exactly the term my dear old Dad would use but this a G rated family review.
Now I have to make a confession, father. I'm totally confused on which course is which? Is the South course and the Original course one and the same? And then the North course is the one that starts out across the field beyond the picnic shelter? Or is that Flip City? If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone might point it out to me.
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6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A recent redesign and upgrade in time for the 2015 Amateur World Championships has made what was once a fairly tricky course into a real beastie from the long tees. There is a course map at the start, which is worth a pic, even if we benefited from excellent Worlds signage. The new holes 5, 6 & 7 play down or across a steep, wooded ravine, adding (more) shade and challenge to the pair of championship courses on-site. With two sets of concrete tees per hole, DisCatcher baskets (older single chains were upgraded with heavy, looping inner chains), and occasionally grueling elevation, there's lots of variety in distances and angles of attack.
There are a number of memorable holes here on the south course. I'll try to forget screwing up on the roadside hole 4, with its gap (alt sky hyzer) and mounded green, and certainly won't forget the puzzling lines needed on the brutal hole 6. They added ropes there to traverse the pits and to make safer your climb up into Mordor. One guy on our card actually 3'd it, and my jaw dropped. I managed to drop a lucky, blind, putter 'drive' to within 18 inches of the pin on the terraced hole 10. And we'll never forget the length of the holes, and their summer rough challenges up on holes 12 through 17. Finally, yea, though I walked through the Valley of Death on 16, I shall fear no evil shot, just get back to the fairway (new to the course? Do NOT go to the right on that tee shot!!!)
In all, they've created a really tournament worthy course out of the 'Original', and it looked like the short tees might be fun for Rec and protected divisions. The course looks like it might be a bit much for casual players. The maintenance guys were fantastic, and clearly take pride in these two courses.
Cons: The park does charge $5 to get in, and even were the only park to be double checking credentials for Worlds. So if you don't like to pay for the great maintenance on courses like this, you might want to play elsewhere.
Now, there are obviously tall grasses here bordering the longer, more open holes, and you WILL need a spotter. We were lucky to have a Liam (thanks, young man!) to help us out, but I would not recommend a solo round out here. And you will need seasonal bug spray: tall grasses hide ticks in early summer, and there are damp places on the new woods holes that will harbor mosquitoes and such late in the summer. Speaking of which, the muddy slopes on holes 5, 6 (!) and 7 will be treacherous during and after rain. I'd hate not to play those holes, but can't visualize dragging my big ol' butt up and down those hillsides if they were really wet. The bottom of the ravine on hole 6 is clearly a muddy pond area.
Otherwise, there weren't a whole lot of rally bad marks for the course. Might've just been me, but I was wishing for more benches by the end of the day out here (we played North, then South).
Other Thoughts: The Meyer Broadway Complex did itself proud in 2015. Thanks!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Not for the Faint of Heart
Pros: Plays in a section of the park that's pretty much dedicated to disc golf, featuring moderate to major elevation changes on virtually every hole. This makes many holes feel and play longer or shorter than the posted distances. Fairways have good mix of long and short, left, right, and straight shots.
The first several holes play relatively open, with fairways lined with tall grass and/or thick (often treacherous) rough, allowing you to choose a number of different lines to get to the basket. But beware, these first few holes can punish you severely for straying from the fairway. Bring your "Get Out of Jail Free" disc, you're gonna need it.
Things get tricky starting with hole 8, as you head into the woods with a well treed fairway that takes a sharp turn to the left after having you drive over a scenic valley. Another wooded hole follows before you hit the deceptive 171' hole 10. How hard can it be? Overdrive it and you'll find out. The shule behind that basket is thick and nasty, and oh yeah, it's a downhill shot, so you might wanna take it easy from the tee box. Rest of the course pretty much plays somewhat open around the fringe of the woods, occasionally bringing you back into them. Course is demanding, requiring discipline and control.
• Risk vs. Reward shots all over the place, and unless you're shooting pretty well that day, you might do well to scale back your ambitions and do your best to stay on the fairway if finishing with a low score (or keeping all your discs) is a priority.
• Concrete pads for longs, and imbedded toe boards for shorts usually offer significantly different lines and challenges. Even so, I wouldn't say the shorts are all that beginner friendly.
• Course flows fairly well from basket to next tee, but first timers would be well served to print the course map off this site, I found it to be a time saver.
Cons: The rough here is downright treacherous in many spots. Not the place for a friendly round. Shanking one into the grass seems more innocent, but you could certainly lose discs in this stuff. Not the best place for fly-dyed drivers.
Tee signs are present, but many are starting to look pretty shabby, and a few are broken.
Chance of disc loss is significant.
Other Thoughts: Rolling terrain adds a scenic quality to much of the course. Standout holes for me were:
• Hole 14 - has you driving up a steep hill to a nicely mowed landing area, before taking a left turn and continuing uphill to the basket for a two tiered effect that can be humbling as you cover 620' from the long, going uphill pretty much the whole way. Felt the weight of each and every disc in my bag climbing the hill for my 2nd shot.
• Hole 10 - a short blind downhill that's an Ace run for the lion hearted. Take it easy if you're not a brave soul, as briar patch behind the basket is downright brutal. Go long and kiss your putter goodbye.
• 3, 4, 5, 13 are also noteworthy IMO.
Drop a buck or two in the donation box if you play here. Course is well maintained, although it feels intentionally cruel. Seems like they could thin out some of the nasty stuff, but I get the impression they simply don't want to. I think they're simply trying to reward staying in the fairway, and punish (perhaps harshly) failing to do so.
Pairs nicely with the North course for a nice day's outing. Located quite close to civilization and a variety of restaurants.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Bring your walking shoes !!
Pros: Elevation is the name of the game...this park has some really great layouts with blind tees and tight fairways. With the tall grass for rough and mowed flyways keeping your drive on the short grass gets to be TOUGH!!..Hills are everywhere you walk so bring plenty of water and be prepared to hike it out..lol..The park is well maintained with plenty of shade on those hot days..This park is definitely player friendly !!!!
Cons: There is a water waste center or something right next to the park that keeps the smell of poop in the air for some of the holes.....played it on a very warm day and the smell was so rancid we almost decided to leave.
Other Thoughts: A very fun course despite the smell of poo....a return trip is a strong possibility.....in the fall.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a large section of the park property, which is chock full of hills and trees. First seven holes are close to the entrance road, not sure if any stray foot traffic ends up that way.
- Good amount of the holes are set in pretty dense forest (with thick rough), or have major tree action off the tee, providing a lot of different lines. #1 is a short RHBH anny under some low trees, and #3 is a long hyzer through (or over) a thick cluster of mature trees. Great mix of lines overall, and the varying difficulty of each really helps to make each hole feel different. Mando on #5 tests both length and accuracy of a bomber anny; a great mando to prevent another wide open hole.
- Elevation changes are present on nearly every hole, and are definitely noticable. Good mix here as well, with some short downhills, long sloping uphills, and a gut check drop shot that demands serious accuracy. #10's basket is out of sight down a steep hill, surrounded by a sea of thorns. Going short, left, or right is no good, and going long can be disastrous. It is also one of a few sloped greens.
- Good mix of hole lengths, with different looks. Some short ones are pretty easy, others are very tricky. Same with some of the long ones, so there is a large variation in the length/accuracy ratio. Having both, usually at the same time, is key to score well here. The back half are definitely longer, for the big arms to enjoy.
- Good teepads, good baskets, kind of tricky to navigate. There is a little loop in the front six, but it helps the quality of the holes. Mowed paths help to get around, double check the distances that were molded in the pads. (You walk past the 'wrong' teepad at least three times).
Cons: - A lot of the course is pretty straightforward, especially in the front. Fairly open lines to the basket, and some downhills to help get it there. Definitely a must to pick up strokes before the woods and the bomber holes.
- Not much in variety of hazards here; it is going to be thick rough or lots of trees. The land doesn't have any water, and the hills are pretty gentle overall (except on #10). In general, the terrain is pretty similar throughout, so the scenery stays the same. Playing by the road is never fun either.
Other Thoughts: - This course is extremely well rounded, which I definitely like. There is an even mix of holes that are beginner friendly and those that make even pros work. The crazy range of length, toughness, and line shaping variety was well done. A more experienced player might be a little bored by some of the holes, and a beginner would be frustrated by others, but there is something for everyone.
- Be sure to throw some money in the box, everything looks well-maintained.
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Double Your Pleasure
Pros: - Rolling hills comprise the majority of the Original Meyers Broadway course. About half the course is lightly to moderately wooded, while the other half plays through thick tall prairie grasses. A good mix of short and long holes, with plenty of ups and downs throughout. Most holes seem to play longer than advertised due to the elevation. Several bomb 'em type holes mixed nicely with some more technical layouts. Interesting design in a few places: #1's green has thick pines about two feet behind the pin, while #10 seems determined to inflict pain and suffering upon anyone who ends up long.
- Great elevation. Rolling hills, gently sloping fairways throughout, and plenty of risk/reward due to sloped pin positions. Unfortunately, nothing "epic" in terms of sheer scale, but plenty of yummy moderate elevation throughout.
- Plenty of risk/reward, often in crazy proportions (such as the hillside of solid brambles below a downhill ace run). A few holes force weaker arms to hit defined areas necessary for having any semblance of an up-shot, while providing decent risk for those who choose to try for the longer bombs.
- Good concrete tees, distances inset into the pads with metal bars, for the pro tees. Scattered trashcans throughout. Sufficient signage, although occasionally the flow becomes a bit tricky if you're not familiar with the course. Mandatories force certain shots on one or two holes.
Cons: - Briars, sticker bushes, thorns, etc. are well-represented on this course throughout. While some thorns are probably inevitable on a course as thickly vegetated as Meyers-Broadway, the designers seem to take a bit of a sadistic approach in incorporating them into the holes. Hole #10, for example, tees off a steep slope to a blind pin perched about 170' down the hillside. Behind the tiny, semi-flat green, the slope continues down into the largest briar patch I've ever encountered. Anything past the pin is brutally punished here, to the point where losing a limb, let alone a disc becomes a real threat. I'm fine with this design for experienced players, but it seems a bit extreme for beginners or casual players, especially when wind factors in.
- Ticks become a danger in warmer weather, especially in the tall grasses. Bug spray recommended.
- On the thick prairie holes, losing a disc in the grasses becomes a threat.
Other Thoughts: - Donation box at entry gate. Be sure to pay the small fee!!!
- Meyers Broadway Original is a minute away from Meyers Broadway North. With two great courses on site, this park provides solid discing throughout. Definitely hit up both Meyers Broadway courses if you're in the area, you won't be disappointed.
- Super friendly locals will help you out if you get turned around or if you're having trouble locating the North course.
*****UPDATE 6/2015**** A dog park has replaced the old holes 4 & 5. Old 6 is now hole 2. The course no longer crosses the road. New holes are wooded and pick up after old 4 (now #3).
Wooded new holes are awesome!
Fairways are wider and fairer than ever!
9 of 10 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
GREAT COURSE WOW!!
Pros: Wow, if your in southern michigan or northern indiana and havnt played this course ,you are missing out. This course has a great mix of long and short/ tight and open holes. It has big concrete teepads which are level and grippy. The distance for each hole is molded into the teepad(pro tees). Most holes also have distance markers in the fairway for approach shots. They also have natural am tees (but they are hard to find). This course shines from the pro tees and will challenge anyone. The fairways with grass are usually cut on a regular basis. Nice shaped landing areas surrounded by 3 foot high grass. It looks beautiful and the rough doesnt really hurt your throw physically but makes you think "im in the rough" and it affects your shot. If u manage to throw past the fairway and tall grass(rough), u are likely in sticker bush heaven. Very fair course ,yet if ur off your in trouble. Great course design and a super fun challenge. Nice bathrooms on site. Baskets are in good shape but they are single chain which adds to challenge.Hole 5 is my favorite , mando left side of the pole, dogleg right with uphill approach. Hole 14 is a monster dogleg left,uphill teeshot,then gets flat and a long uphill approach shot, a 4 is a good score for even a pro. Hole 18 can ruin your round( guilty) but it makes you birdie everything you can cause u know its commin.Also the course is never busy, makes for a very peaceful and enjoyable time.
Also , there is another 4+ rated course on site!
PEOPLE, IF YOU GO PLAY THIS COURSE PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! PUT A DONATION IN THE BOX NEAR THE FRONT PARKING LOT. THESE COURSES ARE BAD A$$
Cons: The am tees are almost non existent,they have no signs and can be found (maybe) by little rock piles with flags in them.
The tee signs are very rough and some holes have none.
There are a few missing tee signs for the pros and if u never been here navigation can get a little tricky.
The tall grass (rough) can make it very hard to find ur disc if ur off the fairway.
A few holes bother me a little
10- short ,almost straight downhill shot ,doesnt really fit the course. Very easy to slip getting down to the basket.
15- its a somewhat long hole but it really doesnt have a fairway/landing zone
ticks in the summer, this is not a con because its nature and thats where we play disc golf,but watch for them.
Other Thoughts: This course is a great course that will offer you lots of fun and also a great challenge. These courses are definitely " DESTINATION" courses. These courses take disc golf from a "game" to a full blown sport.Ams beware, this is the "sport " of disc golf, not the "game". If u dont want a challenge , dont come.
GO TO THREE RIVERS MICHIGAN AND GET YOU SOME MEYER BROADWAY!!
PLEASE DONATE SOME DOLLARS TO KEEP THESE COURSES ALIVE
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: Great course, lots of variety. Good amount of elevation and length.
Cons: The rough is thick. Pretty easy to loose track of your disc.
Other Thoughts: Watch out for ticks. If this course was closer to home, I would be there all the time.
0 of 7 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course is country miles. I really enjoyed the look of this course. The front selection of holes is carved out of dune grass and has a great roll to it because of the hilly landscape. There are a few holes that take you back into the woods which mixes up the scenery nicely. You are able to use a few different methods of approach to these pin placements with right hand forehand and backhand coming into play, but there are no extreme situations save for the elevation variations. The hilly aspect of this course is what separates it from being mundane and elevates it to excellence. This course is also fair in layout and design in most places and doesn't leave a player feeling like he had no options apart from luck. That goes a long way as the perimeter of most holes is treacherous. Many of the holes allow you to give the disc a good ride before playing a precise approach. Even the shorter length holes here seemed to play much longer than they were due to the layout. This course gives you a few solid birdie chances that should be taken where available. In most instances it throws you holes that make you feel happy that you got away unscathed and hit par.
Cons: I am going to make it a point to visit this course next spring before the wild rough grows in. This course punishes shots that stray from the small fairways. Prickers and things I have never been stung by before grabbed a hold me and tore me open. Keep your shots on course or at least in the mowed areas. Approximately holes 1 through 14 were fun, but 15 through to the end ripped me apart. Also, this course and its brother to the north were the worst courses I have ever played from a navigational standpoint. Seriously. I was walking out of my way in several different areas and having to double back to happen upon the right way. I was racing rain as well which made me feel frustrated as I drove for two hours to reach this place only to find myself wasting time being lost between holes with rain threatening. The flow is far from intuition friendly.
Other Thoughts: This course is one of the more lovely courses I have ever played and it is also well designed from a play standpoint. It has a great country feel to it and the way it is mowed with such wild surroundings gives it a great look. The mixture keeps it interesting and holds stagnation at bay. While it is well laid out and quite taking, subjectively for myself, it does lack the awe inspiring x factor that would allow it entry into the elusive 4+ disc category. Nonetheless, this park is a great play. This course is well worth a visit. It is a solid disc golf arena.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: A first-rate, long and challenging southwest Michigan course.
Many front-nine holes feature mowed and detailed fairways in the 300-foot range with small, steeply sloped hills ideal for RHBH throws (Holes 2, 4, 6, 7). These holes are similar to the back nine at Robert Morris in Kalamazoo, but with slightly steeper hills and a higher fun factor.
Holes 3 and 5 add challenge on the front nine, with Hole 3 having a tight fairway with a small opening for righty backhand hyzers. Hole 5 is nearly 600 feet, usually into the wind.
Holes 8 and 11 are wooded holes unlike the others, and are fairly long compared to similar holes elsewhere.
The back nine moves the level of challenge up to nearly Idlewild levels, with nearly no deuce holes but plenty of mowed, long uphill fairways in secluded wooded areas (saw a half dozen deer in one round). Highlights include a long downhill shot made for 400-foot Destroyer drives (Hole 13), a 450-foot right turn with a racetrack-like banked curve (Hole 16), and a very long grassy ravine hole with just enough room to drive in (Hole 17).
Also has a punishing, 620-foot uphill hole that is basically a par-four (Hole 14). Has an old practice basket that makes a decent 'Hole 19'.
Grounds maintenance that is better than Hickory Hills, Oshtemo and Leviathan.
Cons: Baskets are single-chain Discatchers that appear to be fairly old, and are inferior to the North course baskets.
Hole 10 is a short-downhill misfire that should be fixed or eliminated. As with Idlewild, the 'uphill-to downhill' ratio is off, with Hole 10 being a waste of a downhill hole opportunity.
Many long walks between some holes. Navigation may be tough for first timers, but is better than a couple of years ago with some spray-painted rocks indicating where teepads are.
Short tees are dirt, sharing a vice with Flip City. A long walk to the parking lot after Hole 18, made better by playing 'Hole 19'.
Deep, tall grass can make play difficult in mid-summer. Many holes have very thick, disc-swallowing rough (have lost a couple of discs here).
Not crazy about the Mando on the otherwise wide-open Hole 5.
Other Thoughts: The overall combination of qualities on this course (challenge, fun, scenery, amenities) combined with many fewer players than the recently-overcrowded Oshtemo course lift this course to what may be the best in southwest Michigan.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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