McKinney, TX 
Towne Lake DGC Share
Uploaded By: giles Hole #11 (Taken 9/2009)
3 / 266ft.   3 / 245ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #11 Tee: Basket in "A" position

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  Sometimes the course plays you

1    8/31/2010   8/31/2010
Review By: rielpicon
Played: 9  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 19.4 Years
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Wonderful shade, great baskets and tees. Risk-Reward balanced well. Enjoyed it even though I played the worst round ever.
Cons: Can be maddening beginners. Very long through thick tall trees. Low ceiling drives down tight fairways often end up in creeks and brushes.
Other Thoughts: I have a feeling that I'll be confounded by this course for quite some time which earns it my respect

2 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 GREAT Course!!!

5+    8/30/2010   8/30/2010
Review By: johnwangg
Played: 155  Reviewed: 13  Exp: 8.5 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
1. Has a layout that fits everyone. Some holes are more techical and some are for distance throwers.

2. Having an advance tee and a regular tee makes the course fun for all skill levels.

3. Heavy tree cover on the majority of the couse, makes it fun in the hot summers of TX.

4. Makes good use of the creek that runs along the couse. Its not that bad of a creek, but it is steep.

5. Well maintained, signs are all in place. Distance between pro and regular tees are clearly marked and mostly accurate.
1. This course can get some people frustrated if they are beginners. (mainly the trees and creek).

2. Some of the holes the advance tee seems to be an easier shot (even though its further).

3. When its rains, this course can get extremely muddy and the creek is very steep (combine mudd and steep creek and it makes for a fun time getting back up, should you go get your disc).
Other Thoughts: This is one of my favorite courses. I play here often since its not too far from me. I start off at the Alex course then come over here. I have a couple of course I like better than this one but they are a trek for most people.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Sweet Woodedness.

1    8/26/2010   8/27/2010
Played: 58  Reviewed: 47  Exp: 11 Years
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Very secluded feeling wooded course. 2 sets of concrete T-pads per hole, which is rare for a heavily wooded course. Challenging for most golfers while still being fun and not too sadistic, except for the mean ass creek of death and despair. The creek has steep banks and adds risk reward for several shots. Lots of shade and trash cans. Well maintained for a wooded course. Easy to navigate with great T-signs that has an arrow pointing to the next T-pad. A wide variety of trees offer low ceilings and mature trees with no low hanging branches. Friendly squirrels eating tennis balls. I had never seen a tennis ball tree. You figure someone would have mentioned it. Well defined fairways allows for multiple routes on several holes. Friendly locals. Holes 5 and 6 are ace runs with trees to deal with. It is so well maintained, that you will want to play it in full bloom so as to get the full affect of the trees and vegetation as it exist in the design.
Cons: Some of the distances are off from what the sign says. No benches or tables for resting.
Other Thoughts: The locals will appreciate this. I threw into the creek on the 2nd hole. I scaled the steep bank by holding on for dear life and made it to the tire, which is where I took off my socks and shoes and went in. The edge isn't that deep, except for the sink holes. So after the 2nd hole, I had to change socks, shorts and my shirt and had to wipe off mud and blood from my shins. It would have been funny to watch. This course didn't feel like it was 6800 ft., but I didn't measure it or add up the T-signs. A secluded and wooded journey that has plenty of shade and serenity. If you favor wooded courses, then you will most certainly enjoy this one.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Very Nice!

2-4    7/26/2010   7/29/2010
Review By: TomSawyer
Played: 6  Reviewed: 6
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Lots of trees, nice tees, nice baskets, the maintance guys are always busy clearing and keeping up the course. I would like thank McKinney for putting so much effort in making this a great place to play. Not over crowded at all. We have played this course at least once a week for two months so far. There are always changes with the removal of weeds and smaller trees.
Cons: Can be a little muddy directly after a hard rain, but it is what it is.
Other Thoughts: Love it and take new players here weekly.

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Very fun, technical

1    7/17/2010   7/17/2010
Review By: grizzledizzle55
Played: 14  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 14.7 Years
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Multiple Tees
-Multiple Hole locations
-Very well kept
-Good mix of technical holes with a few long distance holes
-Shade shade shade
-Creative layout
Cons: -Not very many elevation changes
-A chance to lose a disc on many of the holes
Other Thoughts: I really had a great time playing this course. So much shade, it is a great summer course. Many holes on the front nine flirt with water. I recommend bringing a DX leopard and tee bird or an equivalent because it demands accuracy and not distance. Short holes. You may end up throwing a mid range on many holes. Also, if you are making a trip of it, check out the course down the street first. It would be a good warm-up. This is more challenging

2 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Luv that #16-Blue!

1    6/11/2010   6/11/2010
Review By: jrcamp001
Played: 207  Reviewed: 12  Exp: 22.5 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Lots of "D" from the Blue tees.
Well maintained course.
Lots of trees & lots of shade, and wind had little affect on most holes.
Nice mix of shots (open & technical).
Excellent signage and easy to follow.
Multiple tees are excellent!
Cons: The shorter holes were a bit of surprise.
Mostly flat - needs better use of what elevation change there is.
Some distances on the Blue tees seemed a little off.
Other Thoughts: As a tourist-golfer, I don't often replay a course, usually opting to play a new course, but I will make it a point to play this one again and hopefully be able to play a tournament at this course. I really liked the tee shot from #16-Blue - over the trees big and a hard move left to set up a big anhyzer approach to the basket.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

  Great Summer Course for Serious Players

5+    5/16/2010   5/23/2010
Review By: rkinch
Played: 1  Reviewed: 1  Exp: 12 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: For what is still a new course it is in great shape and and perfect for the hot summer days of North Texas. Given more time and more foot traffic along with continued maintenance the course should only improve with time

- great location
- good mix of hole types
- great tee boxes and baskets
- almost every hole is a challenge
- tons of shade
- very few first timers or massive groups that tend to clog the other McKinney course on the weekends
Cons: Due to the course being so new it is still a little rough in areas and tends to need a little more "clearing out". I strongly suggest at least a small first aid kit w/ snake bite kit.

- To many trees on some of the holes turn it into luck of the draw and far less about skill
- beware of local plant life, a lot of it can leave you itching or bleeding
- beware of local wild life in summer, 5 snakes on my last visit
- beware of creek, in some places getting back out is very difficult
- this is NOT a casual, easy going course like the old McKinney course. While a fun course to play it is much more difficult
Other Thoughts: It is a great course already give time it will only get better.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 It's like an Audobon revival... flat, nice holes, grass and underbrush are wicked.

1    4/16/2010   4/23/2010
Review By: t i m
Played: 251  Reviewed: 42  Exp: 21.5 Years
11 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: I hate having to start on the defensive, but I feel I have to with this course, since I'm bucking the party line by only giving it a "3.0 - Good" rating. Before you click the "thumbs down" out of bias for your local course, please read the reasons and decide whether or not the comments are helpful to you... even if you're a local that loves the course and thinks its a five, realize that constructive criticism can be helpful even if you disagree with my rating.

Disclaimer aside, this course has several pros: location is great -- having this longer course right around the corner from Alex Clark Memorial is a great one-two duo to help alleviate course overcrowding in the Far North Dallas suburbs and give players a much better mix of shots and a chance to work on their long game.

Parking is excellent, tees are good, teesigns are helpful in finding the baskets. Online map available here is good as well. Layout flows well with minimal walking between holes.

The course is on a decent piece of land with minimal interference from other park users. The occasional walker/jogger/dog-walker may get in the way, but it won't slow down the game for long. for being part of a big, beautiful park, the course feels very peaceful, like you've escaped the city.

Decent mix of shots. Lots of great trees for shade in the summer. OB streams are a plus and a minus -- add nice challenge and visual interest, though they do eat discs.

This course boasts several long holes which is a nice addition for this area, immediate area with doesn't have many other bomber holes -- the closest place with any bomber shots is Rockwall, which is a pretty hefty drive.

The relatively recent completion of Tollway-121 makes this course 10x more accessible from most other parts of the Metroplex and makes it much more accessible than the McKinney area used to be.

Cons: The biggest con to this course -- when I played it -- was the grass. Most of the course was poorly mowed or not mowed at all, with thick grass up to the waist on some holes, grungy mud abundant (slow drying because of all the tree cover), abundant bugs from all the water present, and pervasive nasty, nasty underbrush for any shot that missed or kicked or richocheted off the fairway.

I'll freely admit that the course could easily deserve another half-star or even a full star with better maintenance, but I'm reviewing the course as played... I would reserve my bias somewhat since I've only played the course once, but I played through with a local who assured me that the course conditions as experienced were not unusual. The few holes near the parking lot are very well kept, but past that, the unkempt course kept it from being fun, resulted in several lost discs, lots of bug bites, thorns and searching through thickets, and overall just put me in mind of the now virtually defunct and unplayed Audobon course in Garland.

For locals who remember Audobon in it's heyday, these comments will all seem familiar. It's another lowlying, flat course winding along a stream with moderately obstructed airshots, nasty grass and unkempt rough areas. It's even got a similar graffitied overpass towards the tail end of the course. Audobon was a lot of fun when it was freshly mowed and dry... which didn't happen often. Same holds true for Towne Lake... it would be a lot of fun in great shape, but that just doesn't appear to be it's primary operating state.

In addition, holes get too repetitive. Lack of elevation and similar tree density on most of the holes means there just aren't that many types of shots required to score well here. Play gets repetitive and with the searching for discs it just doesn't make you want to play twice. Few places to really pick up strokes on other players -- there will be occasional birdies, occasional bogeys (usually due to OB or lost discs) and a lot of stock pars.

Fairways are generally wide enough that mediocre shots aren't penalized unless they kick out of bounds -- bad shots and good shots alike will card a lot of threes. Bad shots and good shots alike have similar chances of kicking into the rough or into the stream, thanks to the low ceiling on many holes. With mown grass there would be some exciting roller opportunities which would spice up play, but as it stands now, those types of shots are impossible.

A small annoyance to tack onto the list is that signage throughout the course is oddly arranged. IMHO, the best courses have clear signage is behind and off to the side of the tee, facing the teebox so players on the tee or waiting to throw can study the sign and the hole. At Towne Lake the teesigns are arranged facing the previous pin, so sometimes the teesigns are in front of the teebox, facing away from the tee, sometimes to the side, sometimes behind the tee, sometimes close, sometimes far away... I see the intentionality that was used, presumably to make it easier to navigate the course, but it just feels very awkward and was a poor design choice. On a few tees where the signs are in front of (but facing away from) the teebox, they risk getting in the way on throws and mean that they player has to walk off the teebox, turn backwards and look away from the hole while studying the sign -- just awkward. I've never seen a course with signs placed in this way, and I really hope it's not repeated anywhere else.

Other Thoughts: I really wanted to like this course. I have many fond memories of Alex Clark and have been anxiously following rumors, then updates, then pictures as this course was developed. I have immense respect for the North Dallas disc golf community and for all the people who helped get Towne Lake in the ground. And from reading my review, you'll realize that I think the designers did a very nice job with the piece of land that is here. It's just not the kind of land that makes the best disc golf course, and the lack of maintenance is a park issue that (AFAIK) is no fault of the designers. This a good course and does a good job with what is here...

There are some nice holes in the mix and the course is a nice change if you are in the area -- especially if you catch the course on a good day when it's been tended. But despite similar course ratings on this board, I don't think this course can hold a candle to some of the other DFW-area courses like Turner, Veterans, Z-Boaz, Rockwall and Cedar Hill. Those other courses have far better shot variety, far better maintenance, far more elevation, far more excitement and immeasurably higher fun and replay factors.

Quick synopsis: bring discs you don't mind losing and definitely play if you are in the area but don't go too far out of your way... you're likely to be disappointed. There are much better places to spend your time.

11 of 16 people found this review helpful.

 An Awesome North Dallas Course

1    1/31/2010   2/7/2010
Review By: SpringDgLover
Played: 107  Reviewed: 25  Exp: 13.7 Years
This review was updated on 6/12/2010
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Found just off of I-75 about 20 minutes northwest of Downtown Dallas you will find one of the finest disc golf courses I've had the honor of playing. This course is all about the details and the massive amount of work that went into making it great.

The first thing you will notice is the ample parking and beautiful park the course resides on. Please take note that every single one of these fairways was cut out of dense underbrush and the amount of work that was spent to create this wonderful course can not be under appreciated.

For any course to be great it has to have the proper equipment and this course gets just about everything right. It has some of the best concrete teeboxes I've ever played on, with rubber mats placed at the base of each one to knock off mud and other debris. The cages are mounted on concrete blocks allowing for quick changes in pin position. This is a fantastic touch and makes finding the pin a lot easier. More courses should institute this detail. The teesigns are high quality Houck signs and do a great job of showing the lines ahead clearly and efficiently.

The hole variety here is amazing, with many holes having multiple paths to the basket and some demonstrating extreme risk vs. reward scenarios (see Hole 8). The alternate holes really offer new challenges and add to the overall difficulty of this pro level course. There are many memorable holes on this course, but my favorites have to be 15, a great uphill par 4 and alternate 16 a challenging over water monster hole that will test your limits of OB. Speaking of OB, a creek runs through the whole course really adding some risky lines to the basket.

The course is beautiful aesthetically and is impeccably up kept. Which is a testament to the people who play and maintain this course, you can tell they really do love it.
Cons: Very few courses are perfect and this course does have a few flaws. The first is the cages here. I played this course during a tournament and I heard many open players complaining about spit outs. The fact is, the Mach 2 baskets just don't have a enough chains and putts will squirt through far to often. The second is when this course gets wet, it is very muddy, this mud can make its way on to the teepads during a heavy day of use and make footing very treacherous. Finally this course seems to favor a right fading shot for RHBH players, some my not like this, but for me I found it refreshing and a welcome reprieve from most Hyzer city courses in Texas. So bring your Annys and Flicks with you, they will come in handy. These are minor quips with the first being very fixable and hopefully new cages will be put in eventually.
Other Thoughts: I had the pleasure of playing this course and Turner Park on two consecutive days of tournaments and had a blast. This course is easily one of the 5 best courses Ive ever played and I would make the trip back up I-45 any day to play it again. If your in Dallas put this one on your itinerary, it is an absolute must play.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Well Made Course

1    1/18/2010   1/19/2010
Review By: McLeod
Played: 86  Reviewed: 17  Exp: 17.2 Years
11 Helpful / 0 Not
+Right off the Highway, but set off far enough that you don't notice it.
+Huge parking lot and easy to locate 1st tee.
+Pro (Blue) and Am (Red) tee boxes.
+Dual pin positions.
+Pins sit on top of concrete blocks. At first I thought this was just a nice aesthetic feature, but I soon realized that when used with the signage you could determine the correct pin placement without guessing. If you see a block with no basket then you know it's in the alternate position.
+From the pro pads, drives over big gaps of water. Very fun.
+Long holes with tight lines.
+Variety of shots, but lots of doglegs to the right. As a RHBH I got forced to shoot a several anhyzers and laser-straight shots.
+Signs and Tee Boxes were perfect.
+Well maintained grounds.
-Water hazard is challenging to retrieve discs from. I didn't get one wet, but I saw someone in their underwear that did getting theirs back.
-Course stays muddy well after rain, but it's only intolerable on one hole.
-As a Fort Worth player, it's just too far to get to as much as I'd like to.
Other Thoughts: When the ground dries up we'll go back for sure. I think this is definitely one of the premier courses of DFW. Wouldn't be surprised if I ended up playing a tournament there this year.

11 of 11 people found this review helpful.

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