The Creek is Stoned
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Layout - A tale of two courses; it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
The front 9 is what I refer to as more city park style golf. It's mowed grass, sparse trees and multiple routes. Some holes gave you tighter direct options or wider routes going around. This area is more open and has some longer shots so you can get your drivers out. I really liked how the front mixed up the distances and shots to keep it interesting.
The back 9 is in the thicky icky. It's mostly tight technical fairways with trees scattered in. These holes offer less creativity and options; it's mostly hit this gap although a few holes offer multiple routes.
The few holes on the back that did offer multiple routes did give you some risk/reward. The easier gaps to hit made you work the disc more while the tighter gaps were more straight forward.
Up to three tee options (although only the middle tees had pads) that switched up the shot on occasion but usually just added more length.
There is one par 4 although I'd say it's more of a long par 3 if you are a blue level player up. Perhaps it should be par 3 from the blues, and par 4 from whites and reds.
Equipment - Only the White tees had pads. These were trapezoid concrete of decent size. Decent baskets including a practice basket by the parking lot. The holes do have signs listing the hole #.
Atmosphere - The front part is again more of a city park kind of area. There's a walking trail meandering through and it's a nice little area. The back is super thick jungle they've carved holes in to but it does give you more seclusion.
Cons: Layout - The biggest drawback overall is that the course is mostly just kind of ho hum. There's no really intriguing holes or anything that sticks out. I think the nature of how the course flows add to this feeling.
If you could mix up the wooded/open holes a bit more it might spice it up a bit but you basically play nine open then nine wooded. The back nine doesn't have a ton of variance. The shots vary but most are shorter holes.
There's no real elevation here which doesn't help and the greens aren't that interesting for the most part. There's a couple of island greens but they're not difficult to hit.
The rough in the back is ungodly bad. If you get off fairway you're in straight scramble mode. The only positive of how thick it is, is that it's hard to go far in to it.
The flow is kind of weird for the course. Not impossible to figure out but not intuitive at all times. 17 to 18 is a weird transition and long walk.
Equipment - The Blues and Reds were natural pads marked by painted cinderblocks; they were uneven footing for the most part. That's usually fine for Red tees due to how short they are but for the blues it's a drawback.
The Tee Signs only list the hole #. There's no hole map or distance info which would help some of the confusion on the front and some of the blind holes on the back.
This place could really use a course map at the parking lot.
Atmosphere - The entire course has some drainage issues. This leads to bugs being a bit of a problem and of course snakes; I saw both.
The wooded holes really are thick jungle off the fairway. The locals have done a great job cleaning up the fairways apparently because you could tell some real TLC was applied. The course really needs more foot traffic and constant maintenance to help keep that back area in better shape.
Other Thoughts: I commend whoever is doing the work out here because after hearing about this course then playing it I was pleasantly surprised with how well the back 9 looked. Now it still has problems but it's not the horror show I expected.
This course has 3 star potential if they can flesh out the back 9 a bit more and maybe redesign a few holes to make them longer or more interesting. Some holes have already been redone so I believe this course is still in flux and can improve.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Stoney Creek Park DGC
Pros: Back to a playable 18 holes. A lot of time and effort has been put back into the park. Definitely into the back 8 holes. The front is open for distance and the back is much tighter and shorter for midrange and putters.
Cons: Still a lot of work left. Signs are not up yet for the rearrange of holes. There is a decent walk from 17 basket to 18 tee. The long walk is due to a block of private property that we don't have access to.
Other Thoughts: Definitely better than it was a few months ago. Like before a lot of work and effort has gone into course and still more to take place. Know there has been some awful reviews of the course. Rightfully so it got designed then abandoned. Anyone that reviewed or played it I ask that you give it another round and see what you think. Feel free to get up with someone in the Just Above Par DGC and let's play a round. Thanks for your time
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
3.0 for the Front 10, 1.0 for the Back 8
Pros: This is really a tale of two courses. The front 9 plus 1 is a nice park-style golf course: relaxing, enjoyable, not overly challenging, but decent length. The back 9 minus 1 is an overgrown thorny mess.
1. The first 10 holes are very nice. They're not overly challenging to intermediate players and up, but they do have decent length that will test newer players and even intermediates. The holes are open, but there are mature trees guarding baskets and testing tee shots. If you like park-style golf -- no risk of losing discs, manicured grass, open -- you will like these holes.
2. Stoney Creek may have the best concrete tee pads I've ever played on. They're big trapezoids, the end of the tee pad (closest to the basket) being narrower than the very wide base of the tee pad (furthest from the basket). They're designed so players can approach their run-up from the left-hand side of the pad or the right-hand side and take all steps on the pad itself.
3. I liked the variety of holes (even on the back 8). There are good hyzer holes, anhyzers, par 4's with landing areas and "shortcut" fairways with a risk/reward element. The bones of the back 8 are really good, and I think this course could be a solid 3.0 or 3.5 with regular upkeep and if the underbrush and thorns were cleared out, however...
Cons: 1. The back 8 is completely overgrown. It's basically a giant briar patch. The thorns are really bad, and not just in the rough. Several holes have fairways that are overgrown with thorns and underbrush too. The risk of losing discs is very high. On the front half of the course, I was writing the review in my mind, thinking of things here or there that I would change. I was thinking 3.0 in my head for the front half. But then I got to the back half and nit-picky or player preference stuff flew out the window. The back 8 is a major problem and far outweighs the other issues with the course below. I would play this course again, because the front 10 holes are very enjoyable, but I would not play the back 8 unless or until major improvements are made. These improvements wouldn't necessarily be difficult either. The thorns and underbrush just need to be cleared (significantly), but I question whether ongoing maintenance will be able to keep pace, especially during the summer months. Seems like a losing battle with nature.
2. There are some crossing fairways on the front 9. In particular, one hole's tee pad is directly in the line of fire with an earlier hole's tee shot. No one else was on the course when I played, so it wasn't an issue, but some of the crossing fairways here are bad enough where it's a safety issue, not just a design or congestion issue.
3. Navigation was an issue for me. The course has great tee signs with the number of the hole, but there are not pictures showing you where the basket is from the hole. This was an issue for me on a couple of the front 9 holes, although it's fairly easy to figure out which basket you're throwing to, but on the back 9 it's an issue. Because of overgrowth and dogleg fairways, it's impossible to know where you're supposed to throw off the tee without walking way up the fairway first to locate the basket.
4. Circling back to the #1 con of this course, the thorns and underbrush, I found hole 17 to be completely unplayable. Thorns have taken over the fairway. I couldn't even find the tee pad. I tried to play it from the walkway to the left of the fairway, but still cut my legs up around the basket.
Other Thoughts: If you choose to play the back 8, play at your own risk (of losing a disc!) and wear long pants!
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Front nine is a good park-style beginner course. There are three sets of tees and while they don't provide a world of difference in challenge and look, having them is nice, especially in a mostly open course that uses sparse trees instead of defined fairways to force shot shaping and allow a player to play 18 or even 27 without entering the back nine. This is a niner that would be great for any first time player to get an introduction to the game. It's flat and well maintained. Teepads, signs, baskets and navigation are all in great shape and an easy, frustration free round. Veterans won't find it terribly exciting but they shouldn't object to much other than the near constant interaction with walking paths.
Cons: The back nine should probably be pulled. It seems like they tried to put this in a few years ago but the manpower to do maintenance never materialized. The pictures show what the course once looked like but much of it is overgrown at this point. 17 and 18 are unplayable/unfindable. The rest of the course consist of difficult holes that are incongruous with the front nine. Anyone who could play the back nine would not want to play the front. Anyone who would enjoy the front nine should not step foot in the back. The vegetation has grown in to make incredibly tight fairways. And it is the worst type of rough imaginable. Thick, thick underbrush that a disc will slice through to bury itself if it is even a smidge off of the flight path. I only had one veer into that shule but it was one way too many.
Even before the overgrowth came in, what the navigation. Most of the paths to the next tee are purely guesswork. The 13 and 14 tees are next to each other which means that after 13 you walk directly backwards along the same fairway. After 15 there is a path that I assume leads towards 16....except they apparently gave up while creating it. The solution. Is to walk back up half of 15, skip over some woods to 12 and walk backwards to where the 11 tee was and continue along the walking path to find 16.
Speaking of 15, by moving the basket to where it should be, the best hole on the course could be created. Instead the first throw from the tee needs to land at that obvious basket location, then make a 110-degree turn to the second part of the fairway.(that part that you will have to walk back down towards anyways)
11 could have been the nicest hole on the course. An appropriate width but straight shot that doglegs half down the fair to the right and then over a small stream.....except the fairway is the walking path and the dogleg creates a blind throw at people potentially walking towards you.
Other Thoughts: Basically, there is a nice beginner niner here and the back 9 baskets should be pulled so that players aren't lured there.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Course Has Gone Downhill
Pros: Nice mix of different types and lengths of holes
Cons: Overgrown grass
Really muddy after a rain
Several holes are now completely unplayable
Other Thoughts: This course was previously a great course, full of challenges and variety. This was when it first opened. Since then it has slowly deteriorated to the point at which it is today. It's always been a pretty muddy place, so I won't really comment on that except to give caution: wait at least 24 hours after a good rain because the whole place (and I mean the whole place!) will be extremely muddy. But the amount of overgrown plant life is out of control. Holes 17 and 18 used to be my favorite holes, but they are literally unplayable. You can't even find the tee on either and you can't find the hole on 17 either (well, you can see it, but you can't get there). The same problem is all over the back nine, specifically 11-18. Hole 11 isn't so bad, but after that it all goes downhill. One more problem is snakes. Water Moccasins and Copperheads. Lots of cotton mouths reside in the wetlands area around hole 8. I've seen tons and they've gotten worryingly close. And I've seen too many copperheads to wander into the back nine very often anymore.
All in all, it's a good course that's gone to pot because no one's taken care of it. The front nine is still pretty good, except I'd be careful around hole 8 because of the snakes. I still go at least 2 times a week, so it's better than nothing.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: -I did like the idea of having an open front 9 and a wooded back 9. The front flowed really well and let you really rip some shots.
-When the course flowed well, the front 9, it was easy to see where the next holes were.
-The 3 tee boxes provided 3 good options for the course based on your skill level.
-Has a practice basket to warm up putting before you start your round.
-Course has some cool mandos that make shots more interesting, yet still doable.
-The course does have many different lines so it didn't feel like you were playing the same hole over and over. It wasn't the most diverse course ever, but it did have some different hole layouts throughout the course.
-I liked how hole 17 and 18 played up against the creek.
Cons: -Back 9 has no flow at all. Without a course map it can become difficult to figure out the last 9 holes. It's especially confusing when trying to find the pin on hole 15 and finding hole 17 from 16.
-A few of the holes have you throwing across walking paths and could be hazardous if you aren't paying attention to people walking. Hole 11 is especially bad about this as the fairway is literally the walking path and the pin is around a bin. I had to wait 15 minutes for the path to clear of people before I could throw.
-Holes 1 and 18 all have the potential of hitting cars, though you'd have to have a pretty bad throw. On hole 1 I massively turned over my drive and came pretty close to putting my disc in the busy road. On hole 18 if you fade your shot badly(rhbh) you could potentially hit the parking lot. It's an outside shot of hitting cars but if a disc gets away from you it is possible.
Other Thoughts: It hadn't rained much, if at all, the week before I played this course yet a decent amount of the course was still flooded and soupy. The wooded areas weren't cleared much at all outside of the fairways. It's nit picky but it does make it quite easy to lose some discs. Overall, a course I would gladly play again if in the area but wouldn't travel outside of an hour just for the course.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Pros: A mixture of open greens and fairways along with some real tight areas that require pinpoint accuracy. Huge Concrete tees with large hole number markers.
Cons: In the summer bring a can of bug spray. The layout is confusing on a few holes. Front 9 is a good design. Back 9 is horrible IMO. I do not mind playing in the woods but this is more like a briar patch. Although some has been cleared holes 11, 12, 13, 14, 16 have thick briars on one or both sides of fairway. So do not attempt to find a lost disc unless you are wearing a suit of armor. I avoid the back 9 usually and just play the front 9 a couple times. Much more enjoyable for me. Finally 1,5 and 18 are close to parking lot or road. Error in shot could end up on Ash St (4 lane busy road) or into a car in the parking lot.
Other Thoughts: You have to back track from 3 to get to 4 and from 4 to 5. Be careful on 10, you may end up in the fenced in dog park or with a real unfortunate shot in the gutter. Seriously, had one go in gutter. Luckily we were able to lift the grate off and reach the disc. 13 takes you away from the rest of the course, so you have to back track to get to 14. 15 to 16 seems like you are lost due to the lack of signs and the distance between them. Again 16 to 17 is almost 1/4 mile walk.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Good course when its not swamped
Pros: I like the variety of basket placements, from the fairly open, tall ceiling lanes on the front part of the course, to the more technical, tighter woods baskets on the back.
Cons: It was a swampy mess the last time I played this course. That is to be expected since it was put in to utilize the land following the destruction of Hurricane Floyd. Its a nice course that continues to be developed and enhanced, just be sure to play it when it hasn't rained recently.
Other Thoughts: In the summer, carry bug spray and use it frequently. If its rained recently, the bugs are out in force and you will need extra socks and shoes.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Very good front 9 with a lot of open space. Pedestrian traffic is minimal.
Cons: Thick grass and narrow paths on the back 9 make it easy to lose a disc, especially on holes 11 and 16.
Other Thoughts: Take caution around holes 5 and 18 the holes are near the parking lot.
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: Good mixture of holes ranging from open to moderately wooded, to heavily wooded. Very close proximity to the highway. Very easy to navigate.
Cons: No bathrooms, was heavily flooded, No distance to basket markers, or signs for which tee belongs to which basket.
Other Thoughts: Looks like the course is still getting some work done to it, i am not sure though as this was my first play through, could really use some distance to pin signs, as I choose my disc off of that fact. Other than this very well designed course.
0 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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