8 Helpful / 0 Not
Black is a GrandVue Indeed!
Pros: Championship level 18 hole course with single boxed gravel tees and black banded Discatcher baskets. Phenomenal use of the elevation and terrain and OB. Excellent variety of pars, from ace runs to par 5s. The Yellow Course offers something for beginners and is a nice warm up for the Black Course and there are plans for 3 more courses in the park! Restrooms and pro shop. Zip lines! Cabin rentals. Lots of wildlife, even saw an albino deer. What a Grand Vue from the top of the mountain over looking the town!
Cons: -WARNING- the Black Course is an extremely difficult course which we only recommend for the highly skilled golfer.
The boxed gravel tees aren't that great, but they didn't bother me. Moderate potential to lose a disc either into the abyss over a cliff or tall grass areas in the summer. Plays over and around park roads on a few holes, but I doubt it's much issue since traffic is very low volume here. With all the deer, there's lot's of poo, but whatever, look at the view around you and not at the ground.
Other Thoughts: The Black Course is a difficult and challenging course that should be played only by low-handicap golfers. The course is for walkers only and its slope rating is one of the highest in the northeast. Anyone who has played will tell you it is a true test of golf skill and physical endurance. This is one of the latest courses designed by master golf course architect Johnny Sias, and is said by many to be his finest work.
The elevation and length are used to the extreme as it's a mostly open course. Don't let that fool you though, as there are a couple heavily wooded holes, and the open holes have treacherous slopes and OB galore. Many of the baskets on the open holes are tucked into woods making the drive more important to setup an easier approach to the basket which is most likely on an insane slope. If your disc goes right of the fairway on hole 9, it's gone into the abyss baby! It falls off a couple hundred vertical feet just a few feet from the basket, and you can't even see the ground!
If you are serious about disc golf, you should play here. I would love to see a NT tourney here with all the top pros. It would be awesome if it could be included in the Worlds at Pittsburgh, but it's probably just too far. The locals I played with were all great guys and golfers! Thank you Paul aka DiscGolfFarm for the tour! I was still dreaming about the course the entire 5 hr drive home. I can't wait to come back and hopefully the other 3 courses will get approved.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Good mix of a few short holes with plenty of opportunities to really unload some serious drives.
Cons: Signs weren't great. they told you where to start from, but not very specific about where the baskets were. especially on some holes where you cant see the hole
Other Thoughts: hole 18 was a lot of fun to basically throw off of the top of a mountain
1 of 4 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: just a great fricken course!! had a blast with a couple of buddies, didnt have any trouble finding where to go on the course. Awesome use of the beautiful west virginia hills, truely a sight.
Cons: tee pads were a little different than im used to. with wood border and gravel in the middle my buddy almost twisted his ankle.
Other Thoughts: i would have given this course a better score if it had concrete pads. other than that there is nothing to complain about from my standing
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: (This is for the Black Course)
- Lots of long holes. (seemed like 4-5 holes were 500ft+ ...Great for big arms.)
- Great scenery!
- Nice course flow, didn't have to refer to map too often.
- There are 2 courses here. A shorter Yellow Course, all the baskets have yellow tops. And the Black Course which plays quite long 9000'+ I believe, and is amazing.
- Lots of other things to do here.
Cons: - Figuring out where to start your first time is confusing. Thankfully there was a Park Office that had brouchures, maps, scorecards, etc...
- Too far away from me :P
- Bog mud on hole...5? I think the narrow shot through the woods.
- Bring water you'll need it, lots of elevation changes lots of walking on slanted hill sides.
Other Thoughts: Great destination course! They had zip lines installed all over the park, looks like it would be a blast to try that out.
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
The Black Monster
Pros: 1. The course has MAJOR WOW factor! Punishingly long holes with major room for errant floating throws.
2. Very unique disc golf experience that pure West Virginia mountainside signature
3. Very clear Black topped Innova baskets with long flags on top for the Black course (Yellow topped baskets mark the yellow course).
4. Fairways are mowed and signage is decent.
5. The park is amazing in and of itself and tons of room for more holes or even another 18 holes. There is already 36 holes between the yellow and black.
6. Bathrooms are nice in the park (closed bathrooms at hole #1) and benches at each hole were a welcome rest.
Cons: 1. Tee Boxes are small (4x8ft). They have been extended with another box but the extension is a distraction and you can trip over it.
2. Until the construction of the new zip lines is finished, part of the course(between 3-4) is a bit dicey) This should be finished soon.
3. The low brush outside the fairways is very challenging to find discs. Even though is it low to the ground, it is thick and eats discs.
4. Windy days could be disastrous on this course
Other Thoughts: Driving into the park was a welcome surprise. Being from out of town, the residential area prior to the park was slightly concerning. The park however opens up into a true beauty with a very safe feeling throughout the park.
I can't underestimate the size of this course. Over 9000 ft in length. This is huge with 5 holes over 500 ft, 2 more over 700 ft, 1 more over 800 ft and the grand fanale Hole #18 over 1000ft. Reaching #2 basket, you get to see the tee box of hole #18 which makes you drool with excitement that you will finish your day with that monster downhill 1000 footer. It is however a VERY physically challenging course up and down the hilly West Virginia terrain.
The course is a good mix of tightly wooded holes which force you to be VERY accurate to wide open bomb shots that runaway turned over drives can find you miles away from where you want to be.
The tee boxes are a real problem. They were originally constructed 4ft x 8ft which were way too short so they extended them by another 4 ft but there is the wood box around the extension which gets in your way. I found this to be a big distraction during tee off.
Signage was decent but if it weren't for the kindness of a great man named Craig who works there, I would have definitely struggled through the first few holes. At tee #1, there is a mailbox with the nicest scorecards I have ever seen on a DG course. The Black course maps were out but then I met Craig who went and got one for me.
I was amazed at how many throws that barely left the fairway became a wild hunt due to the thickness of the low brush/ground cover around the course. While I didn't lose any discs during this round, I thought I was going to lose about 5 but just as I about gave up, it would appear. Keep you eye on errant throws as what seems like it would be easy to find, may not be so easy.
This course has potential for being professional caliber. Being fairly new and the interest seems to be growing in this area, I see only great things to come for the ongoing development of this course and the rest of the park in general. They are currently installing amazing Zipline towers which look like a blast. While the multiple wide open bomb shot holes can get a little repetitive, Hole #18 IS WORTH the entire trip. If it doesn't make you drool with excitement, check your pulse, you might be dead.
Make the trip. It's well worth it. This is a very unique disc golfing experience.
Thank you Craig for your help and guidance to this out of towner while I was there.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Grass was just cut. Nicely manicured with benches added this year. ( Major bonus ) Areas that had previously been swampy all season appear to have had work done to assist in drainage. Wonderful mountain views! This course is in wonderful condition. Noticed a sign when we started that said holes 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 are close. I suppose the sign is rather outdated as we played all of the holes and waved to park workers while doing so. The course provided nice score cards and color maps of the course for first timers.
Cons: I believe the tee pads are in need of some adjusting. I think the original pad was a short one and was added on to. Wooded 4x4 frame with gravel inside. Need to remove the middle cross member as it makes approaching your drive odd. Small complaint for a wonderful course. I noticed a few "tee signs". Better signs I suppose but the provided map at the barn helped.
Other Thoughts: Bring lots of water. For what the course is could something else be done for hole #1. 180ft par 3? I had heard from a few locals last season that there were talks of a 2nd 18 hole course at this park. It would be amazing to have another course of this caliber there.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
14 Helpful / 0 Not
Be consumed by The Monster
Pros: When driving to a course I've never played & finding the road morph into an exclusive park entrance as it narrows and traverses a steep, winding incline, my eagerness builds anticipating a potential monster ready to consume all who dare enter its realm.
And The Black Course is certainly monstrous with over 9,000ft of length, mammoth elevation changes, brutal wind to contend with, fast greens with severe roll away probability and deep gullies with thick rough/woods that slope and gulp up errant throws. Add in the sheer physical challenge of climbing up and down the hillsides and at times it was more reminiscent of survival than disc golf.
The course is primarily open and the first two holes provide an immediate and lasting impression of what's in store. The first tee behind the barn is a deceptive short ace run but be cautious as once the disc clears the structure, the wind will wreak havoc on the flight path & coupled with the left side's drop off (which is part of 18's fairway) it's a risky endeavor especially for a RHBH thrower. #2 while mostly open continues with the drop off/18's fairway on the left but adds a few trees to navigate leading to a parking lot/road with a precipitous hill to ascend culminating in a super fast roll away green. With the wind raging and swirling causing the disc to dance erratically, it's every bit of a par 5 - even though just over 500ft in length, it plays more like 700ft.
Continuing on the front 9, I really enjoyed the holes either in or in between the woods (#'s 4, 5 6 & 9) as they offered some reprieve from the open/wind holes and presented a more technical dynamic which for the most part is lacking here.
#7's little 188ft transition hole once again plays longer than advertised as it's another uphill toss which leads to the epic downhill of #8's 818ft par 4. However this is no mere huck and chuck hole. With the parking lot on the left, thick sloping woods on the right, the ever present wind & finishing with a basket surrounded by woods on a fast green, the slightest mistake could easily cost a player multiple strokes & should be a sufficient deterrent to blindly hurl your disc. Definitely a stand-out/signature hole that will entice multiple drives off the tee for the sheer joy of watching discs descend.
Holes 10 & 11 play along an open, sloping hillside and while the tee to basket elevation change may be minimal, the deep gullies in between are vast and wayward discs will be gobbled up and sent deep into the chasm's depths.
Holes 12, 13, 15 & 16 play on, along and at the bottom of the hillside intersected by the parking lot near the back of the park. These are all mainly open, big arm holes with a cumulative length of 2,037 ft. (three of the four being over 700+ ft.) and echo the familiar theme of the previous holes - deep drop offs, wind, gullies and roll aways throughout. There's some relief in a couple shorter holes with the little downhill anhyzer of #14's tree jailed pin and #17's uphill drive across the OOB parking lot/road.
If your arm is still attached and total physical exhaustion has yet to take its toll, the blockbuster finishing hole awaits - a 1,000ft bomb from the top of the hill, over the parking lot to an open meadow below. The entire left side after the parking lot, which borders holes 2 & 1's fairways, is OOB which adds some challenge to an otherwise fantastically fun-filled hole. Top of the world ending holes astound & this one doesn't dissapoint.
The park was gorgeous, secluded & very well maintained (as was the course). There were unlocked restrooms by the barn/first tee, scorecards/maps available, a pro shop on site (closed when I was there) and very little pedestrian traffic or other park goers to speak of - which, considering the fantastic setting, surprised me.
Additionally, the tees appeared to be in near to newly constructed condition - some of which had much needed benches nearby. Navigation was fairly easy with a map along with the next tee indications and while arduous, the course has a reasonable flow.
While I did not play it, there's a pitch/putt course on site (The Yellow Course) for practice/warm up.
Cons: Keep in mind that many of the below statements are more of a 'be aware of' rather than a 'con' in my book:
Some of the tees were odd. For example the wood bordered, large gravel based tee appeared to be regulation size but in front of and attached to the tee box (where someone may do a run up - especially on such a long course) there was another 'tee' with the same large graveled surface but about 1/3 the size. While I did not experience any problems with the tees, they appeared to be a potential safety issue and I was perplexed as to why they would be constructed in such a manner (perhaps not finished?).
There were several sets of holes that played similarly but specifically 12, 13, 15 & 16 used the same general area(s) and had a repetitive feel. I kept thinking how nice it would have been to use some of the elevation for downhill or pitched drives into & utilizing the woods which border the bottom of the hillside. This may have added a more interesting dynamic as the excessive length & re-occurring themes of these holes just felt redundant and overstated.
The physical punishment of having to walk up/down these hillsides can be quite taxing on the body (similar to a ski area course). I can imagine in the summertime baking in the heat as most of the course is exposed to the elements. Hiking shoes and plenty of provisions are recommended.
The lack of technicality, wooded holes and water hazards is noticeable but doesn't necessarily detract from course enjoyment.
The wind is treacherous - for example, I threw an over-stable disc RHBH on a sever hyzer angle and the wind stabilized it and turned it over deep into the edge of a gully. You're basically fighting the wind on many of the holes so be forewarned.
Although there were no real conflicts, I wasn't thrilled about throwing over/around roads & parking lots, near walking paths and near/by contending fairways (1&2 with 18 and 11, 12 & 13 using similar land) - especially considering what the wind here can do to a disc.
I will say the black bands on the basket tops make them more difficult to see. However there were orange flags on a handful of them to aide in spotting.
There was poo all over the place - mostly dog and deer. It's a mess to negotiate in places and watching your step is a must unless you want an excrement reminder emanating from your shoe sole during the round....and possibly beyond.
Other Thoughts: This is a pro caliber course that will test many of the power/endurance facets of your game but at the same time demands consideration in placement, putting and perseverance. Inexperienced players will most likely find this place frustrating and exhausting while more seasoned players....will probably feel similarly but should have the experience & determination to endure.
I was heading west on I-70 out of Pennsylvania, drove the 10-15 min or so off the exit to play here (a 2+ hour course investment for two people) and was able to experience a unique and different style West Virginia disc golf course than the two I played previously. This is just another testament to the amazing disc golf terrain to be found in West Virginia parks and you owe it to yourself to be consumed by the Monster.
14 of 14 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 1 Not
I wish I lived closer
Pros: -The length - The back 9 alone is bigger than my entire 21 hole local course in Cleveland.
-Elevation changes - Love throwing uphill and especially downhill. #8 and #18 were great highlights.
-Maintenance - Course was very well maintained. I found nothing really wrong with any aspects. Some people my disagree.
-Accessories - Not sure if that really is the right word, but I love the fact that they have color maps, scorecards, and pencils for players to use.
-Skills - This course offers a true test of all skills. Distance, accuracy, control.
-Challenge - I finished with a +18 and personally, for a first time on a "championship level" course, I'll take it. Though the thought of hole distances can be intimidating, there is nothing that is too crazy for anyone to try.
-View - Absolutely beautiful views, especially #3 and #18.
Cons: -Being from out of town, the back roads through what was almost like a trailer park seemed kinda crazy. But I can't hold it against the course because once you get through, it just opens up wonderfully.
-I personally don't mind it but to attract more people, maybe trim down the thick rough just a little.
-Some tees were concrete, though small, while others had nothing. Again, this is something that does not bother me as I don't use a running start to throw.
-Some signs were a little confusing on pointing to the next hole. But we found the tees rather quickly anyway.
Other Thoughts: Let me start this off by saying I'm from Cleveland. I was visiting a friend who lived about 25 minutes away and we decided to give it a try. We went very early and there was nobody else on the course. The park itself was practically empty as well. Started off getting Pars on the first 3 and I will admit I got cocky. Then the bogies came and they came in abundance. This course is long and demands accuracy, especially 4, 5, and 6. 12, 13, and 15 are basically the same hole in that they cover the same curve within a hill. 14 IS GREAT! I hope they never change it. I thought it was a great challenge to get it in between those trees. My buddy who was playing for only his 2nd time birdied that hole. (He finished +15 for the whole course). I lost a Champion Orc on 11 which would've ruined my day if it wasn't for the course being so much fun. For those who play it, from the tee, it's in the thick brush by the tree that leans to the left as you face it. Kinda by the hole. It's purple. If you find it, please give it a good home. : ). I love the short 17 length before hitting the absolutely perfect 18th. I can see where safety for cars and people could come into play if the park was busy. I was able to clear the parking lot, barely though. I would recommend this to anyone who is in the area and has a few hours to play. Bring water and your hiking shoes cause you will need it.
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
10/12/11 Course Update
Pros: Everything said before.
Cons: Working on getting this list down to nothing but it does take time and patience.
Thank you to the entire GrandVue Park staff for everything y'all have ever done and continue to do for the game of disc golf here in WV. It often goes unsaid how fortunate we are to have such a great opportunity with disc golf and GrandVue Park. Thank you again.
The course is in fantastic condition. The leaves are turning colors and creating sensational views for you to enjoy
as you hike your way around the course. We now have alternate 't' pads on #8 & #18. As for the pads, they have all been extended and are filled with crush and run. If this is not your preferred surface, it is what it is and it's the same for everyone.
Permanent signage is in the works. We do have temporary signage for events and tournaments. Speaking of events, on Nov. 5th, 2011, the Disc Golf Farm will be hosting a tournament on Nov. 5th, 2011. For more information visit www.DiscGolfFarm.com.
I look forward to seeing you on the course!
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 4 Not
get rid of the raised tees
Pros: # 18 is one of the most beautiful holes in the world (The tee pad sucked on it, but the hole itself was awesome). Serinity and scenery, The residents of the Moundsville area have one of the most beautiful parks in their back yards.
Hot water and a clean restroom at the pavilion adjacent to basket #2 and tee # 3
Cons: 4' x 6' RAISED tee boxes. I don't know who's responsible for the installation of the tee pads but they're not in the "KNOW" of how to install a tee pad for Disc Golf, especially on a DGC that has some super long holes. on some holes there wasn't even a place to tee off adjacent to the "RAISED" tee box to tee off from making these newer additions to this DGC, very dangerous for the player. I would also use smaller gravel instead of what they used in these tee boxes (it was like teeing off on marbles)
Lack of benches near the tee boxes.
The name of the DGC shouldn't be the name of the park in the various DGC directories.
I don't understand hole # 14??, why the jail effect. can you please open up a few airways so one could at least have a shot at the basket from the tee. you don't have to cut a super wide path, just some kind of path where one could have a respectable chance at hitting metal, not wood.
without a map, one could have trouble locating the next tee. Just a simple strip of colored electrical or duct tape on a spoke in the basket well pointing to the next tee would be greatly appreciated.
Innova baskets, can't believe that some of the chains are rusting already and the BLACK basket headbands. We're in the wilds out here and the "Black" heads bands are hard to locate. I understand that this DGC is called "BLACK Diamond" and your trying to associate and seperate the two DGC with the different colored basket head bands, but BLACK headband is harder to locate, IMHO.
# 8 kinda dangerous as the fairway narrows at the bottom of the hill with a parking lot on the left side of the fairway and thick forrest on the right. I'm okay with the basket placement being on the slope, but there are few air holes once one gets to the green area.
Locked restrooms at tee # 1
High grass in the fairways, granted I realize that the park has a lot of space to mow and we've had record amount of rain lately, but the fairways we're rather high and if you ventured off the fairways you paid the price on the wooded holes
Other Thoughts: Just MHO, but if the tees we're flush with the ground this DGC and a few other subtle (like a simple strip of colored electrical or duct tape on a spoke in the basket well pointing to the next tee, some benches sprinkled around the course would make this DGC an Excellent place to play all weekend or more, and be greatly appreciated.
I'll play this course again if given the opportunity as this park has so much upside for DISC GOLF. Thank you for bringing me to your community. I was impressed.
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