Parma, NY 
Parma DGC Share
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3 / 216ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #3 Tee

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 Pro Quality Course, can be tough to navigate

1    8/26/2012   8/28/2012
Review By: TBabb
Played: 65  Reviewed: 56  Exp: 14.2 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Huge concrete Tee Pads. Big Yellow Baskets. Signs at all tees. Map at front of course. Foliage is trimmed back to precisely define fairways. Benches throughout. Lots of variety of hole distances and each hole demands a lot of technique and you will not only use every disc in your bag, but you will wish you had more. Lots of elevation, a big ravine is in play on many holes. Lots of OB (creek, ravine, paths, etc.) adds to the challenge as well, requiring tight, controlled shots. Many unique holes here too, including some unconventional lines, a drive straight up the slope of the ravine, and several elevated basket positions. Practice basket is also a plus.
Cons: Very unconventional layout. I got lost more than once with a map. Finding a guide would be best. I don't mind an unconventional flow if there are adequate next tee signs, this course could use more. Many baskets are not visible from the tee, and some are easy to mistake. I think there was a different tee for the first basket, because I could see that the pin position for the first labeled tee was empty. Maybe the course has a couple different layouts? Pretty confusing for a first timer.
Other Thoughts: This course is really great. I found it to be an interesting combination between difficult and fun. There are few holes here that I can't wait to throw again though. Also, I think there is space for more holes which would allow the course to flow better and less navigation issues. Definitely download the map, but a guide would be best for your first time here. Bring your best game and every disc you own. You'll want every last advantage you can give yourself.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Amazing Course!!!

1    7/9/2012   7/10/2012
Review By: bosoxbrent
Played: 36  Reviewed: 12  Exp: 9.2 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: * Extremely well maintained. Grass is trimmed. Little if any trash.
* Signs at tees are in excellent condition and do a great job outlining each hole.
* Great mix of wide open and wooded holes.
* Great course for all playing levels. Challenging enough for the best players. Easy enough to not get beginners frustrated.
* Concrete tee boxes are great for having good footing.
* Course is absolutely beautiful!
Cons: * No arrows on baskets pointing you to the next hole. I spent a lot of time referencing the course map on my cell phone to get to the next hole.
Other Thoughts: This is the best course I have ever played. Although I'm still relatively new, this course was absolutely beautiful and fun to play. I had a blast here and wish this course wasn't so far away from me (I traveled 7 hours to play this course).

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Really Nice

5+    3/25/2012   4/6/2012
Review By: jkanick38
Played: 13  Reviewed: 11  Exp: 9.4 Years
This review was updated on 5/17/2013
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: great mix of holes well kept and well mowed, great scenery and follows through nature trail good for all levels of players, very pretty during summer great signs installed help the locating of tees and baskets
Cons: can be muddy in areas early in the season,Ground bees on hole 8 right after tee box for those who dont like bees last spring that ai played.
Other Thoughts: Overal a challenging course, lost of differnt styles of holes ranging from heavy wooded to wide open. has some elivations changes but mostly flat and open water on a few holes only may be a pro for some and a con for others, again very prety to play through. best course in rochester

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

  Variety and Challenge

2-4    3/16/2012   3/20/2012
Review By: Mtkubit
Played: 1  Reviewed: 1
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Huge variety of shots, Great scenery, Challenging, Well taken care of, concrete tee pads.
Cons: somewhat marshy in the springtime, confusing layout the first few times its played (finding the next hole takes a little exploring if you haven't been here a few times),
Other Thoughts: its a great course especially for more serious players, the Par is fair and there are woods holes, open holes (some are both), up-shots, down-shots everything you have seen before and more. i like the long distance holes and am not fond of the wooded ones but this course has a perfect ratio of both to keep an experienced player challenged and on their toes

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 some of this and some of that

1    2/8/2012   2/8/2012
Review By: GrEaTeRNaTeR
Played: 19  Reviewed: 19  Exp: 9.1 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This course is hands down one of the best courses around the area. It has it all from flat open fields with randomly placed trees to through the woods up and down hills. Also a small creek that comes into play on a handful of holes to give it the competetive edge a course should have
Cons: was a little hard to navigate the first time around. some of the hills a little steep for less athletic players
Other Thoughts: could use some extra signs pointing way to next tee for new comers. some of the steeper hills could use steps

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Top of the line

2-4    11/13/2011   1/9/2012
Review By: theeassassin
Played: 2  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 8.1 Years
2 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: This course has it all. Mix of all shots, elevation changes, technical holes, open field shots. Amazing tee pads and hole signs. Very scenic. Defiantly a must play for any local players
Cons: Navigation, not horrible but defiantly need a map the first few times played. Walking distance between holes and length of time needed to play all 18 but this is just getting a little nit picky now.
Other Thoughts: Parking in VFW a little weird, course hours open but gate was shut, just parked off to side and left note on car stating that I was playing disc golf.

2 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Good not Great

5+    12/13/2011   12/28/2011
Review By: Wolfpackdiscs
Played: 7  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 11.4 Years
1 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: This course has a wide variety of shots. Its not just a bomber course and its not all tight. There is a wide range of approaches and tee placements. Great distance holes mixed in with short technical wooded holes. The water holes are really fun, shouldnt worry about extra discs unless the creek is raging in late spring.
Cons: The course is confusing to follow unless you play with a local or have an overhead map with you.

1 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Great variety

1    8/19/2011   12/17/2011
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 17.7 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through a beautifully kept park with a great mix of grassy fields and woods. Some of the holes have some nice open distance with enough trees and brush around to make you hit interesting lines. the rest play in woods dense enough to make you hit tight gaps. There is enough dense rough in the woods that you'll pay when you miss your line. There is great distance variety from a few long multi-shot holes to some ace runs if you're accurate.

This course has a nice mix of hole shapes, you'll need lots of different shots to be successful here. I really enjoyed all the cool lines through the woods, especially the shots that brought the ravine into play adding some fun elevation. the course plays balanced with left and right turning shots throughout.

The tees are nice long concrete pads that are level and flush with the ground. The tee signs are informative enough with hole layout and distance. The park is nicely groomed with mowed grass and trimmed brush. The baskets are in nice shape and seemed pretty new.
Cons: Navigation is a little tricky in a few spots, some next tee signs would help a lot. The map on this site is good, I recommend printing it or pulling it up on your smartphone your first time here. A few of the longer holes seemed like twiner distances where the pin wasn't reachable off the tee, but the hole wasn't long enough to leave a very challenging upshot.
Other Thoughts: This course is definitely worth a stop when you're in the area, with a ton of variety and some really fun shots. Beginners might find this one pretty challenging with some longer holes and some thick rough. More experienced players will find some nice challenges here to test different parts of their game.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 Your local course isn't this pretty

1    11/27/2011   11/27/2011
Review By: Hector Chain
Played: 196  Reviewed: 190  Exp: 11.4 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course is set on some VFW land that apparently already had developed nature trails, bridges, native grass areas, birdhouses, and a variety of trees and bushes. The course weaves seamlessly from groomed, open areas into the woods and back out again. The open areas tend to be a bit longer and are not necessarily grip-and-rip bombers; you need some placement to avoid the bushy areas and the tree line, and there are frequent sharp doglegs. The wooded holes vary in length but all require accuracy to hit the right line. A couple are ace runs in the 200-250 foot range, but all of them could turn into bogeys if you ricochet off a tree. And then there are some semi-wooded holes that play through a valley with a shallow stream. These are really pretty holes.

All the baskets are bright yellow and visible. The tee signs are pretty good, clearly showing distances and basket locations, although the lines it depicts can be misleading (e.g. making it appear that a sweeping hyzer path is possible when it is really a dogleg hole).

The course design is overall very good, with just about every type of hole you could want to see with a good distribution of left-to-right and vice versa.
Cons: On several holes you need to walk the entire fairway to see where the basket is. Other times there are a couple baskets visible. For instance, the 4th tee aims right at the basket for #7, but the #4 fairway actually follows an S curve into the woods that is easy to miss. Bring a map. There are several "Next tee" signs around, but more are needed.

Although it hadn't rained in a couple days, the course was very soggy. Some areas seem to be legitimate marshes (it's clear you're not supposed to throw there), but even the fairways were quite moist.

There are other users of this land, so you'll need to watch out for dog walkers, etc. A dog walker with her kids stood in the middle of the fairway on one hole and never even saw me (I patiently waited for them to ramble on).

The only other con is one they can't help: there isn't a ton of elevation here. That said, what little elevation that exists is used quite well.
Other Thoughts: This course is really well cared for. It would have been a nice place to be even if I didn't have discs with me. As a course, it is the best in the area, and I bet it was a great course this past summer for the amateur Worlds. I'm sad I only got to play one round here, but I'll be back.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Northern NY Beauty!

1    7/27/2011   11/2/2011
Review By: dobbins66
Played: 129  Reviewed: 21  Exp: 14.5 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Beautiful piece of property with an amazing course designed on it. Great Hole Balance so forehand and backhand are equal. Long holes with obstacles so that on every hole accuracy is key. I love courses that balance accuracy & distance and this one does it as good as any. Shot variety is essential - I threw numerous thumbers and forehand rollers on this course and needed every shot I could think of.

Some great disc golf holes/shots that stand out:

#5 - Out of the trees through a narrow fairway, across the field through the pines & finally over the hill with a big finish to the right.
#4 - Across field to a narrow entrance into the woods. Back in the wood to a slightly elevated basket on a mound.
#1 - I loved the out of the chute in the trees and across the field & pond shot to start on #1. Only about 300' but looks a lot longer standing on the tee.
(I forget some of the other hole #'s but...)
The Hill to Hill shot across the valley is fun. You are standing at eye level to the basket but it is many feet down to where you will be playing from if you hit an early tree.

Cons: Didn't see alternate tees so it may not be very beginner friendly. If allergic to poison ivy then look out on some holes(not really a con just a warning). Watch your footing - I could be slick navigating some of the paths if wet (another warning).
Not really anything I didn't like!
Other Thoughts: This course made the Rochester Am Worlds trip worth it and it is what all course should strive to offer. Amazing design on a perfect piece of land. Would love to get back up in the area and play it again.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

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