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Wilbur Young Park DGC Share
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3 / 207ft.   3 / 315ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #12 Short Tee

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 A Challenge!

1    11/10/2012   11/10/2012
Review By: bazillion
Played: 55  Reviewed: 37  Exp: 19.1 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Technical? Did you say TECHNICAL??? You can't HANDLE the technical!!!!

Okay, so given that it's a technical course, where are the goodies? To start with, teepads. Two for each hole (I played the longs), all in great shape and more than long enough.

Then, tee signs. Clear, pretty, clean (not defaced), and accurate.

Next, pins. Bright orange, multiple placements on each hole.

Navigation: Good overall map at the start of the course, next-tee bricks in place at the base of each pin.

Miscellaneous: Good, sturdy bridges where needed, wood chips to mark many of the pathways.

Course design - an excellent, short technical course. A couple of water hazards (I managed to feed each of them a driver) and a good variety of LH and RH shots. Lots of uphill and downhill, a few holes with both.
Cons: The usual amenities were the main thing that this course lacks. There are few benches (I saw a few stumps here and there), no water, no restrooms, no bag-hangers.

No long bomb opportunities - I don't recall seeing anything over 500 feet, even long tee to long pin placement. That's probably because the land area is small and it was all the designers could do to shoehorn 18 holes of any size into it.

Speaking of tightness, there are many places where kick-outs could wind up in the middle of an adjacent fairway, so if you can't hit the lines, keep track of your disc and holler "fore" if you see it sailing off into oblivion.
Other Thoughts: This course would rate 4.0 or 4.5 were it not for the missing amenities. Overall I was very impressed and I'm planning to return - my first round here was awful (20-40 mph wind but hey, I played cr@ppy and that's all there is to it) and I feel a distinct need to salvage my honor! I consider myself a fairly good technical DGer but this place taught me that I ain't all I'm cracked up to be.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 nicely maintained

1    10/12/2012   10/14/2012
Review By: blowers04
Played: 30  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 7.6 Years
1 Helpful / 1 Not
-Great scenery.
-VERY well maintained course.
-Great signage make the course easy to follow.
-Well placed pins make all the holes challenging.
-Water hazard on a few holes.
Other Thoughts: This overall is one of the nicest courses I have played. It is very well maintained and very clean. They have good signage to direct you around the course. The only thing I didn't like was the pond. Could have something to do with the two discs I sunk in it... Overall great course.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.


5+    7/8/2012   7/12/2012
Review By: tmattoon
Played: 29  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 8.1 Years
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: The baskets are orange so easy to spot on the heavily wooded course. Two tee pads and multiple pin locations on almost every hole. One or two open water holes mixed into the very technical course. Heavily wooded so it's a nice change from other nearby courses with tons finesse shots and not much need for power.
Cons: Not to many open wholes. If you are having an off day could get frustrating with hitting trees. Easy to loose discs on almost every hole.

0 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Get schooled!

1    3/28/2012   3/31/2012
Review By: Hector Chain
Played: 196  Reviewed: 190  Exp: 11.5 Years
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course is set on a school property, along pretty heavily wooded hillside with ponds, streams, and little bridges crossing here and there. It's a terrific setting for a course.

There are two concrete tee pads for every hole (except one), but the short pads are obviously intended for kids since some of the distances are under 100 feet. If you're old enough to drive, you better be throwing from the long tees. There are multiple positions for most holes.

The fairways vary from pretty open to very tight, but most are pretty wooded. There is a high degree of risk/reward on this course. On a couple holes I nailed the gap and got the birdie. Other times I got a ricochet and ended up with a 5. I never felt the fairways were unfair; I earned my bad scores.

He course didn't favor righties or lefties. In fact on several holes, you needed to throw right to left and left to right on subsequent shots.

Navigation here was okay. I'd bring a map, or pull up the online map on your phone if you can.

The tee signs were good, showing distances and basket locations. Baskets are all orange and stand out against the green background.
Cons: You could lose a disc on two of the holes along the pond, but neither forces you to throw over the pond.

Water drains down the hills here, and in a couple places it was a little wet, even without much rain in the few days before.

You can't play here during on school days during the day.
Other Thoughts: A good sign of the quality of a course is how much time you spend thinking about it after you play it. I was disappointed I couldn't play a second round to try out these holes again, and my shots and decisions kept running through my head for days after playing.

If you can't fathom throwing anything but your Boss or Nuke off the tee, this might not be your kind of course. But if you love risk/reward and thinking about the different options every fairway presents (which sometimes means playing it safe with a midrange or even a putter), you'll have a good time here. And you might be wondering why your school never had a course like this.

6 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Put Away the Max D

1    3/24/2012   3/26/2012
Review By: Shimmie
Played: 7  Reviewed: 6
Pros: Beautiful and well managed course. Easy to locate holes and pins. Many very tight fairways that demand well placed drives and upshots. A wide variety of straight and dog leg left and right. Put away your warp speed max driver and be ready to practice with your best fairway driver and mid range discs. It was a very muddy day but they put down hay and it really helped footing and kept my feet dry. Multiple tee pads and pin placements can really people learn the course. They do have water holes however each hole had a safer route that will help keep your disc dry.
Cons: My only con for this course is that the tunnel shots are very repetetive and a couple more wide open holes would help give this course a little more diversity. Also the holes play back into one another so keep your head on a swivel and pay attention to where you are throwing. Even this can be difficult as most of the baskets you will be throwing blind from the tee box.
Other Thoughts: Unless you are really experienced player then this course can really help to make you humble and understand the importance and staying in the fairway.


1    2/18/2012   2/18/2012
Review By: astomps
Played: 67  Reviewed: 40  Exp: 8.3 Years
This review was updated on 12/16/2012
Pros: -Very technical course, shots require lots of accuracy
-built on rolling hills which provide elevation changes and blind up shots
-Signage is very good, signs even list the current tee position which is excellent
-newer baskets
-tee pads are longer than most
-17 is a very fun hole over a small water hazard
-obviously maintained regularly by parks dept.
-2nd set of tee pads for newer players/children/weaker arms; good course for an entire family, also a good starter course
-Bricks at foot of baskets for navigation to next tee
-lots of people always list bad neighborhood as a con; this seems to be a in a very safe area
-newer course
Cons: -multiple holes that you are throwing right at a tree or a group of fairways on some holes
-virtually no chances to air it out and watch it fly
-par 3 fest
-Course is very tightly organized, moderate chance of not seeing someone due to hills and with a bad shot or a tree ricochet, hitting someone with a disc
-navigation could be confusing the first time through due to 2 tee pad setup
-no benches, bag hooks or restrooms that I could see
Other Thoughts: I feel the water hazard angle is exaggerated. On 7, it is very easy to avoid because it is open air. On 10, it takes a bad shot or a massive hook to go in and there is also a large pine tree that I threw right into just to stop the disc and go for a par. and on 17, that is just a great hole and even a throw into the water is not the end of the world. It is shallow and disc would be retrievable. the 7/10 pond however would probably be the last time you saw the disc if you go into the middle of it.

yes there are a lot of tunnel shots which is a con, but not a massive one. My main complaint would be the lack of distance the tunnel shots cover. ~300 max basically

Overall a very nice course, not far from KC metro, avoids all the KC metro course problems

 Watch out for the water

2-4    1/14/2012   1/23/2012
Review By: ccunning
Played: 3  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 7.1 Years
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: It is a challenging course with a lot of obstacles, water traps, and mature trees. The short tees are good if you want to avoid the water traps and not lose that nice disc in the water. As a beginner this course might be a little more than you bargin for. More experienced players will enjoy this course's challenges
Cons: The water. There are several holes with water traps very close or in the field of play. If you aren't careful you might throw a disc in the water.
Other Thoughts: A good challenging course which a wide variety of holes to play through.

0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Technically awesome

5+    12/30/2011   12/30/2011
Review By: asjzn6
Played: 131  Reviewed: 59  Exp: 14.2 Years
0 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: pro and am pads at each hole except 8 which is a short hole as is, signs are awesome, with markers for which spot basket is in, clearly marked signs teepads. Bricks with arrow pointing toward next tee at bottom of each hole placement, Mach 5 with orange top and basket easy to see catch great. Land is great, design is great
Cons: Nope
Other Thoughts: Course is very technical, there are a lot of golf shots, good place to work on your game, if you are a local playing the short tees is an excellent way to work on short game. If you are east of KC this is a must play. When playing after 7 hoe 8 and 9 are a short walk across the road. then come back across the road to 10 after finishing 11 walk back toward tee 1 and 12 is right there

0 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Manicured goodness

1    5/11/2011   5/27/2011
Review By: bettsjc
Played: 39  Reviewed: 30  Exp: 10.7 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Wilbur Young Park DGC is a beauty of a new course. It appears this is the last disc golf option before heading east of the Kansas City suburbs. It sure was worth stopping by this one.

WYP is equipped with Mach 5 baskets, with a bright orange weather coating, and boy do they stand out. Two layers of chains, which catch discs very well. 2 pin placements(3 on hole 9) per hole, with one basket per hole, it is interchanged between positions. Tee pads are concrete, with a pro and am option at nearly every hole. Tee signs are amazing, in-depth map of each hole, par and distance from each pad to each basket position.

Fairways are grassy, trees are mostly evergreens, and all is kept nicely manicured. The course was extremely clean, as far as litter and brush/limbs. Its the type of course which I would expect to be located at a disc golf country club. This may wear off a bit as the course ages, but will not take away from the fun factor.

There is a challange factor here, with some elevation, tight lines and water in play. Bring a throwaway disc just in case you feel like going for it.

Maybe the best feature of this course is the color system used on the tee signs. Each hole has a red or blue tee position. Just underneath the tee signs is a color card which is kept in the color of the basket position. No having to walk up the fairway to see which position you might be shooting at.

There are a few trash cans located at various tee pads, and seem to be collecting all of the trash, dispite being labeled, "shrink wrap only". Great idea, IMO!
Cons: Just a few, basically nit-picky cons. Just things to look out for, not meant to keep anyone away.

Tee pads are slick when wet. Not sure if there is a sealer on the pads, or if it may be a synthetic blend of concrete. A brushed texture may have helped.

Distances on some of the tee signs are incorrect. Alot of this assumption is based on the locations of both tee pads vs basket location.

Navigation was a bit of an issue. I ended up playing ...6, 7, 10, 11, 8, 9, 12, 13... There are also some blind shots, but I would imagine a few rounds on this course would be an instant cure to that.
Other Thoughts: This course is on the same area of land as the local high school, so use discresion on other activities you may take part in.

Ponds come into play on 4 holes, including a shot along a pond, and a couple over a pond.

The course design is very clean, as if the park was built for the course. It appears that it wasn't cut out of the woods, but rather uses all obsticles which existed prior.

Follow the directions on the course info page, and it will get you right to the first tee(sinage is visible from parking lot). Nice pavilion between 18 and 1 and the parking lot gives you a nice place to wait on your card or take a break between rounds. Bright map of the course located at the beginning.

If you are in the area, it is definately worth your while to check this one out. Nice park, nice neighborhood, nice course. It will be a great time!

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 A Masterpiece!

1    10/29/2010   4/25/2011
Review By: Olorin
Played: 411  Reviewed: 115  Exp: 40.5 Years
14 Helpful / 0 Not
My Enjoyment: 9.2 (out of 10)

*Terrain- this course is much more wooded than most of the KC metro courses, so it adds nice variety to the area. Even though there are many trees, it's more open with nice grass, so I classify this terrain as Mixed rather than Woods,
* Tees- 2 sets. Black are long, white are short. Holes from the short tees are quite a bit shorter, so they'd be very good for lower skill levels.
*2 basket positions for each hole (plus a 3rd position on hole 9). Combine this with the 2 sets of tees and you have tremendous layout variety! The layout I played had baskets in a mixture of short and long positions.
*Elevation changes are fantastic. They have the ideal balance of 9 Up and 9 Down with quite a few Down-Up or Up-Down holes in the mix.
*Fairway designs are consistently excellent. Almost all of the fairways are well cleared.
*Beauty-the course is on a beautiful piece of property!
*Length variety is excellent. The layout I played had 2<199/ 8 of 200-299/ 6 of 300-399/ 2 >400
*Greens- offer many nice challenges.
*Water- there's some water too, on 4 holes. On hole 17 I absolutely loved the beauty that the pond added!
*Being close to a high school is a great way to introduce younger players to the game!

*Tee signs- simply fantastic! World class with colorful hole maps.
*Tee pads- long and wide concrete. Excellent!
*Baskets- awesome orange dipped DGA Mach Vs!
*The additional basket on hole 1 allows you to play either position any time you want. Awesome!

*Map of the course- a fantastic colorful, accurate map is available online! There's also a gorgeous large course map and a rules sign at the start of the course.
*Current basket position marker- they use an ingenious system of red or blue tags on the tee signs to show what position the basket is in.
*When I played they were constructing a pavilion to use during tournaments. Nice!
*Wood bridges- even though the course is new they've already installed some nice bridges. This park has lots of resources!
*Tree protectors- some vulnerable trees trunks have a wire grid wrapped around them to protect them from disc hits. A thoughtful touch!
These are very small points and not really a big deal:
-Many baskets were hard to see from the tee (but the map shows you where to look). In the configuration I played I couldn't see 1, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16.
-Navigation: overall the course flows well, but at a few points it was unclear where the next tee was. Looking at the map easily showed me the way, so I'd suggest the first timers print out a map to bring with them.
-On a few holes car noise from the road nearby (AA) detracts a little from the feeling of being out in nature.
Other Thoughts:
Long tees Course Level = Blue (most suited for Advanced players rated 925-975)

For such a new course it amazes me how much work they've done and how far they've already come. I could quibble and suggest a few small improvements such as adding a practice basket as well as more benches and trash cans, but I wouldn't be surprised if those already in the plans anyway.

This course solidifies John Theiss' status as a Master Course Designer! Well done, sir. This is the kind of course that I was sad to finish, and it's now among my Top Favorites. Wilbur Young rivals Waterworks as my favorite course in the KC metro area. It's that enjoyable! If I had limited time and could only play one course in the area I'd be hard pressed whether to choose Wilbur Young or Water Works. They each have different character, so the choice would come down to what type I wanted to play that day. I had a fantastic time from start to finish and I'd highly recommend people to play here for a first class experience!

A note about my rating: My rating is a subjective measure of my enjoyment of the course, on the day I played it, and it is NOT intended to be a measure of the quality of the course. My Enjoyment Ratings are given "on the curve" in relation to all other courses I've played.

Look in the "Links/Files" section for my files with Hole-by-hole ratings and a more detailed Overall review. You can also read more of my review philosophy and rating notes at Disc Golf Course Reviews

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