Berrien Springs, MI 
Andrews University Share
Uploaded By: MGroothuis Hole #14 (Taken 7/2010)
4 / 528ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #14 Tee

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 Decent Course

2-4    6/12/2013   8/7/2013
Review By: hfolk
Played: 13  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 6.2 Years
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Nice open course, allowing for some nice practice on your drives. It allowed me to try out a few of my new discs, with out the fear of losing them to weeds or drilling a tree.

In great condition, the school takes care of it and players seem to respect the course.

Went on a Friday and we were the only ones on the course, not sure if its because school was out for the summer, or not a busy course, but it was nice to play with out feelings rushed.

Cons: Very difficult to navigate to the next hole. Suggest you bring a smart phone with the photos loaded, that way you can pull up the pictures of the tees, so you can know which way to head.

Parking can be confusing. We parked by the music building and walked to hole one located on the other side of the building.

Granted we went in the beginning of the season when bugs were bad, but with in the hour and half it took to play through, we had countless mosquito bites!
Other Thoughts: BRING BUG SPRAY!
Look at the pictures for tees so you don't get completely lost and spend half your day looking for next hole.
Not a very challenging course but a good time killer.

1 of 2 people found this review helpful.


1    6/16/2011   6/16/2011
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 217  Reviewed: 169  Exp: 7.9 Years
This review was updated on 4/15/2013
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - This course snakes through the college's flat, but attractive campus. Mature trees come into play quite nicely, providing the lion's share of difficulty throughout the 18 holes. Hard doglegs, protected pins, a few blind looks off the tee, a mandatory, and low canopy shots throughout prove to be the main thrills and spills at St. Andrew's. No schule except for in one or two spots on the edges of fairways adjacent to private properties.
- Good mixture of distances. Several longer holes and a few holes where not having a big arm for a hyzer spike up and over small trees will hurt you.
- Decent mixture of shots: left, right, up and over, et al.
- Sufficient signage. The tee signs are nothing more than the hole number and distance, but the yellow tape on each basket points out the next tee location. Pay attention to this or chances are you'll miss at least two or three holes.
- Very little chance to lose a disc. This is a good course for families: enough challenge to keep experienced discers occupied while not terribly difficult or frustrating for younger or novice players. The grassy fairways and shaded walks make this course enjoyable for all.
Cons: - The flow is fairly difficult to follow, even with the yellow tape on the baskets pointing out the direction. Trouble first arises after #6 in trying to find #7's tee. Cross the street and just keep walking in the direction indicated by the yellow tape. In one case (#9 to #10), the basket's direction was slightly off, and the walk long enough for one to end up pretty far away from the proper tee. At another juncture (#13 to #14), the walk is an improbable jaunt around a large campus building, across a busy intersection, down a sidewalk (keep your eyes peeled for a sign that says "The Grove"), to the tee located by a pavilionunder
some trees. Several of the walks between holes are on the "long" side of the spectrum.
- Not a whole lot of risk/reward. Trees do provide obstacles, but often not enough to prevent recovery for fairly easy pars. The entirely flat course doesn't get any elevation involved except for errant shots to the left of #14's basket, where a steep ravine leads down to a small stream.
- Many of the holes work through busy sections of the campus, with students often crossing fairways without much thought.
- The tee pads are slitted rubber mats inset, occasionally badly, into the ground. On several holes the tees are buckled, and often the grass beside the tee provides better footing. A couple of tees (#9 and #15) are natural, and look as though the mat has been ripped up; however, all tees are clearly marked with a wooden post and a brick foot fault line.
Other Thoughts: - Certainly not a destination course, but a solid option if you're in the area. I'd imagine the course is infinitely more playable and enjoyable when school is out...I'd personally avoid this course while the student population is out and about en masse.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Long, flat and open

1    3/26/2011   4/7/2011
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 15.4 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through grassy fields around a college campus with nice mature trees. The layout does a nice job avoiding other campus activities and walking paths, so it would be pretty playable even with school in session. There is a decent mix of hole lengths, with some ace runs and some long bombs. A few holes have enough trees to make you shape some different lines.

There are basic tee signs and tape on the baskets showing direction to the next tee. The course is nicely maintained, with well mowed grass and no trash or vandalism. With how open the land is, I thought the design was pretty creative in how the trees and bushes available were brought into play. I love seeing courses on college campuses, it's a great exposure for the sport.
Cons: One place I disagree with the course designers is the length. As an overall course, I have no issue with the hole lengths, so this con doesn't affect my rating, but the course is really long for new players. We saw people skipping several long holes, or getting frustrated on the bomber holes, not a great way to introduce beginners.

The design is creative, but with such a flat and generally open area to work with it's hard to design a course that won't feel at least a little repetitive. There are some really long walks that aren't immediately obvious, the tape on the baskets helps in most cases, but a couple take some wandering to figure out. The tees are very slippery rubber, I almost fell on a dry day so I would imagine that it would be pretty treacherous when wet. It's obvious people tee off in the grass next to a lot of the pads so there's some erosion going on.
Other Thoughts: Overall, this is a decent course that's not a bad place to stop. Parking on a weekday might be an issue, but it was no problem on a weekend. I would like to see short tees for newer players to make it a little better place to introduce the sport to beginners. More experienced players will get to stretch out their arm, but won't find enough variety to really challenge different parts of their game.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

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