scenic and well maintained
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Pros: Very scenic course with Lake Ontario bordering or lining several holes. Loved the cut grass on this very well maintained state park. Two sets of cement tees. Scorecards printed on thick stock were available at tee #1 and are very much needed for the map on them. Blue and white cement tees plus short red grass tees are clearly marked. Nicknamed "the Beast", it provides a challenge for experienced players. Marked OB makes it play even harder. Good tee signs. Restrooms are located near the parking lot and between the two courses. Bonus points for having a second course in the same park. 1 and 2 were great holes to start while 17 and 18 were great finishing holes.
Cons: The layout wasn't intuitive, I was glad to have a map. The next hole at times simply wasn't where I expected it to be. You cross a park road several times, see a tee pad but that's not the next hole. I was there on a calm day but imagine the WIND is usually a major factor. I disliked holes 8 and 9, the only truly wooded holes on the blue course. #8 had a very odd turn and a group of trees 60-80 ft from the basket that made it nearly impossible to attempt a birdie shot. #9 white tee had a weird S turn/angle in it's wooded fairway. (I did like the basket up top of the hill though). The course is fairly flat, not much elevation overall.
Other Thoughts: I played the white tees since I'm an Adv Grd Master and don't have a big arm, they provided a good challenge. The course starts out rather long with par 4's and a 5, they are very good holes.
I got confused after blue #15 and ended up on white #15 instead of finding blue #16 without back tracking.
I drove 90 minutes (one way) out of the way while on a 13 hr 2 day trip, I'd play this blue course if in the area again for sure but wouldn't play the white course again.
Carry in/out park, no trash cans even in the restrooms.
I played after Labor Day and didn't have to pay a park fee.
Bring food/water, as I found no convenient stores nearby for lunch.
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Pros: - beautiful scenery of the lake
- course is VERY clean and well maintained
- camping on site
- bathrooms, pavilion, & picnic tables
- 3 sets of tees (that are all easily located!).
- Long & Mid tees are concrete. Short tees are natural and marked with red stakes & sunken 4x4s.
- maps available at the kiosk by hole 1. Pick one up.
- This is an excellent compliment to the white (beginner friendly) course which is also on site. This is a much tougher and MUCH longer course
- a good variety of hole lengths and pars (6x3, 7x4, 5x5). Some of these are quite long, including 2 over 700' and a par 4 610' hole #1 to make sure you are awake to start your round.
- Did i mention distance? At 9191 ft you'll get a workout.
- The course is rarely busy which allows some time to soak in the scenery or take a few extra practice shots as needed.
- There isn't much elevation - but what is there is used well. The best of which is hole #13
- Hole #13 - I LOVE this hole. It is right along the cliffs edge to lake Ontario. Great view. It plays very downhill along the bank and the pin is (234/283/331) nestled on a point with a cliff to the left and behind it. There are stairs down so if you are *slightly* left or long you have a shot at your disc being saveable, but if way long / left it is in the lake. Playing it safe to the right is an option with mostly high grass, but there are some trees making that a bit challenging for a rhbh line.
- This course is unique in that most (but not all) holes do not require a specific line to be successful, but they do require you to have good distance and excellent placement. There is a lot of OB (service road throughout comes into play on several holes) and also some OB "lakes" staked off as well. This really comes into play on #6 is the OB is just where you want to be and they leave a VERY narrow path available on the approach. Additionally, several of the holes are fairly open above ~5-10' but have scattered thick bushes and smaller trees throughout. Since you are throwing over most of this the line doesn't matter, but it does matter that you place your shot where you haven't jailed yourself behind one of these obstacles.
- Wind. It is quite open and there is often a stiff breeze off the lake. Just adds to the challenge.
- The mound on #18. I could practice on this all day and still not have the guts to really run a putt from the bottom when it counted....but it is sooo rewarding to park a long upshot on top of the mound and drop in a bird (only happened once).
Cons: - No teesigns. Fortunately these are currently in the works for this summer, but for now you need a map from the kiosk to navigate your first time through.
- It is one long 18 hole loop. You could make a 9 hole loop out of 1-5, 15-18 but you are missing some of the better holes.
-Hole 15 is rather uninspired. Wide open, super short ace run with no risk to it. After all the other OB/lakes/etc it just seems so bleh. EDIT - UPDATE - This hole is meant to be played as an island hole (re-tee if missed the short grass) which makes it more interesting than I had initially indicated.
- Don't forget the bug spray.
- $6 / car to park (unless you have a NYS parks pass) if you are not camping on site.
Other Thoughts: I love this course. No matter how great I play in a given day, there is always 1 (or 10) strokes I felt like I left out there....but there are always a few great shots I made to leave happy - even if the score was a little rough.
With the 2 courses on site there is something for everyone here. This course is much longer and much tougher so if playing both you may want to warm up on the white course. If you can only pick 1; play this if looking for a challenge; play the white for a confidence boost or if you have beginners.
A note on course improvements:
- Prior reviews indicate natural tees - the mid & long tees are all concrete.
- This summer there are a few changes planned. The pin for #12 has moved further to the right. It is now almost a straight shot at the cliff which is waiting if you are 15' long. #17 had had the pin moved further right and deeper in the woods. They are also cutting a new fairway through the woods on this one but it isn't complete yet so i don't know how it'll play. Last but not least, tee signs are on the way and much needed.
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Pros: very scenic. mostly open course alongside lake ontario with beautiful views. the blue course is the longer of the two courses at shore winds and its first tee is on the west side of the parking lot (you'll see the blue post).
tees. each of the holes has a very easy to spot blue post to mark the tees (there are multiple tees per hole), which are just grass tees marked by smaller posts.
basket placements. excellent! hole 13 is the coolest hole i've played in rochester with you teeing off alongside lake ontario nearly on the edge of a cliff with the fairway playing downhill to the basket 336 feet away. simply awesome. likewise, hole 14 follows the curve of the cliff/ embankment, creating a 627 foot hole that forces you to throw so close to the edge on the drive that it can really test your nerves.
difficulty. basket placement, length, o.b. on a couple of holes, and wind (see below) provide the major challenges. this is a long course at 8538 feet and being able to drive far will be a huge help. besides challenging basket placements (see above), o.b. comes into play on several holes. for instance, o.b. on hole 8 is especially cool. you tee off this 572 mostly open hole, then approach the basket on the left side of a small hill with a large kidney bean-shaped o.b. covering the whole lower left side of the hill. even if you lay up to the right, it gives you a putt that drops off o.b. very quickly. very fun.
wind. can make your round very unique. those 15 foot putts with 20-30 foot mph gusts are tough! time to learn what your drivers and putters do with a wind that can change directions on you. all that said, i'd say that nearly 75% of the time i've played these courses, the wind wasn't too strong or not present at all. seems to me you'll either get blasted or have a calm day. either way, it's fun.
Cons: wet. incredibly wet in spring (but then again we had a TON of rain), to the point i'd wait till late may/june to try and play it. also, with all the criss-crossing over a drainage area in front of number 1 and the length of number 2, there was nowhere to pass. again, everywhere was wet, so this may be a good place to put a little bridge. (when I played the course again several weeks ago, everything was completely dry...now that we've had nearly no rain)
wooded holes. i like the designs, but the pars seem generous.
long grass. the fairways are mowed and the "rough" has grown to maybe two feet. while i love the look, beware that it's very easy to lose a disc. we lost one having watched it the whole flight.
wind. although i listed it as a pro, sometimes you just want it to go away
Other Thoughts: tee pads would be awesome as well as signs, easily bumping this course up to a 4.5, making a map from dgcr extremely helpful.
consider pants with the way the fairways are cut. long grass left me scratched and very itchy. but despite the itchiness and a friend losing a disc, i love the look.
if you go early, you never have to pay the parking fee (just a couple of dollars per car...no biggie for two sweet courses).
if you're coming to rochester for the worlds, you should definitely check out this course!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: -The most scenic course in the Rochester/Buffalo area. Bring a camera, as there are tons of beautiful shots of Lake Ontario.
-A huge distance course with 11 holes at 500' feet or more, four over 600', and hole 2 covering 730'. There are a few wooded holes, but load your bag with drivers.
-I usually am not a fan of alot of OB, but this course does a great job of making the mostly open holes interesting with an OB road that snakes through the course, and a few OB "islands" placed throughout.
-Quite a few huge risk/reward throws with Lake Ontario being in play on a number of holes. You CAN get down to the shore at the basket for 13 if you throw go over the cliff.
-During the summer, there's a bathroom at the keosk.
-Maps/scorecards at the keosk
-Very well maintained state park with brand new baskets.
-Camping! There are campsites within walking distance of these two courses, making this an amazing weekend disc golfing destination.
-Two great courses in one spot!
Cons: -No teepads. Just grass or mud depending on the hole.
-Can be VERY windy most of the time. Not really a con, but when you're throwing over 8000', a steady 30 mph wind with OB and a lake can be challenging.
-Not very well marked yet. The course is very new, but there are only posts in the ground to mark the tees. It can be tricky to figure out where to throw, especially on the back 9 when the blue course gets close the white course. Grab a map at the keosk.
-In the summer, there is a $2.00 parking fee, but it is entirely worth it to play both courses.
-Not sure if it will continue to be an issue during the summer, but the course was very wet and muddy during the spring. Bring waterproof boots.
-The course is very young and still being tweaked, but a couple of the wooded holes could use more defined lines.
Other Thoughts: Just a perfect weekend disc golf destination. The two courses together are a blast to play. The Blue course is a great mix of legitimate par 4's and 5's. It's already earned the nickname "The Monster", and will take a while to play a round. That said, it will be an amazing game, with breathtaking views and beautiful pin placements on the shores of Lake Ontario. The caliber of this course, paired with a location between Buffalo and Rochester should ensure that this will be a popular course once word gets out. I know I can't wait to play it again!
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