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1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Nice park complex with a good handful of things to do.
- Course is nearly completely segregated from other activities. Just a couple near ballfields and roads, but not too bad.
- Great, perfectly surfaced trapezoid concrete tee pads. Perfect amount of grip.
- Great powder coated blue baskets. Classy. Faded flags on top of some.
- Good signage. About the only thing missing was layup-zone distances.
- Decent navigation, especially for the awkward layout. Next Tee markers on baskets, on tee box signs, as well as extra navigational Next Tee signs. Never got turned around.
- 10 - Great, wooded hole, with a well-defined fairway, and uniquely guarded basket.
- 14 - This is the bee's knees of holes on the course. Elevated tee with a long, sweeping L to R fairway around a thick marsh. Or, big enough arms with big enough stones can go for it straight over the marsh or to the right. If you can carry the big trees, or sneak between them, there's mown fairway out there to be had. Driver beware though - I'd put finding a disc in the marsh/prairie at 50/50.
Cons: - Reading reviews beforehand, I really didn't think the long walks between holes and the layout concerns were going to bother me. But it did. It's not that I can't handle the walking, but there's nearly as much walking between holes as there is playing holes. It's not a knock on the designers - they did what that had to with the restrictions they had. Just unfortunate.
- In general, I wasn't a fan of the wooded hole designs. A few too many small trees left in fairways. I understand that's the name of the game, but instead of one or two obvious lines to the basket, there were 5 smaller ones. As if to say, "Hope you can hit one of them." This could be corrected in a few places by making sure to line up the driving fairway guard line with the basket guard line. Just not there right now. I felt this way in places on 5, 8, 9, and 11.
- Very unforgiving rough in the woods. Thick, and sometimes more than a 1-shot penalty.
- 5 - the dreaded 'chair' design. Must hit a 10' x 10' landing zone 250 feet out just in order to properly layup again, which at best gets you a 50' or 60' putt for birdie.
- 18 - probably not playing as designed anymore by the looks of it. Two layups required in order to get near the basket. Impossible to birdie, hard to par, easy to bogie.
Other Thoughts: - The course appears to get quite a bit of play, but not enough to knock down and clear out wooded fairways and rough. A work day or two would do wonders for the wooded portion of this course.
- The course does include a very very short red layout, that probably gets played very very little.
- 12 - Really cute looking, short hole with a carved giant squid in the fairway. Easy if you get lucky enough to hit your line.
- Lot of posion ivy and mosquitoes the day I played here. Not sure if that's the norm (although the ivy probably is). Can't completely escape that with a wooded course, unfortunately.
- I very much wanted to love this course, but just couldn't. It's a good park course with lots of variety, but needs a few changes to break into that 3.5 tier for me.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Fun and Chellening
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is located in a very nice park and is well maintained
- Good mix of tightly wooded and more open holes
- Elevation is not exceptional, but used very well
- Baskets, tee pads, and signs all in good shape. Benches on many holes
Cons: - While considerably more cleaned up and cleared out than previously, some of the wooded holes could still use some work, and possibly tree reduction
- Long walks between holes on multiple occasions
- Poison Ivy, burrs, and thorns make venturing into the rough a potentially annoying, uncomfortable, or painful experience
Other Thoughts: Indian Oaks provides a varied and challenging round of golf in a well maintained, multi-use park. The course is split fairly evenly between more open, park style golf with large, mature trees as obstacles, and tight wooded golf with narrow fairways forcing shot shapes. There is a good amount of elevation in play as well. While most of the greens are relatively safe, a large number of holes have you throwing up or downhill.
The shot variety needed is good, and the open holes still have enough obstacles to remain interesting, even while you can play several lines off the tee. Hole length is well varied, <200' to 500', and is mixed well throughout the course. You are never throwing several short or long holes in a row, which I think really helps with flow and the feel of the round.
A couple of the wooded holes ride the line between being challenging, and there simply being no clear route to the basket. Lines exist of course, but some of the windows are so small, that all but a perfect shot will get knocked down, and some fantastic shots will just get an unlucky tree kick, and turn a birdie look into a bogey. Even still, there are some great holes here, including two true par 4's that require two excellent shots for a look at a 3.
The course has been cleaned up a lot, but there are still some areas where the rough goes beyond punishing a bad shot, to being excessively harsh, or potentially dangerous in the case of the frequently present thorns and poison ivy. Most of these areas can be avoided with safe, smart golf, but everyone has bad shots, and it is no fun to end up in.
The equipment here is very nice. The Blue baskets are easy to see, and flags are frequently present as well. The concrete tee pads are large and grippy, and the signage is very nice. There are benches by many of the holes as well which is always nice.
The long walks have been mentioned before, but they really are quite long, and break up the flow of the course. Nothing to get worked up over, but an unfortunate reality.
Overall, this is a very nice course with a number of fun and challenging holes. If the level of work that has gone into this course over the last couple of years is maintained, this course will continue to get better and better.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course is set in a large multiuse park. The baskets are blue powder coated chainstars that are in great shape and catch nicely. Many have large flags on top of them making them easier to see in the woods. There are concrete tees for all the longs. These are all large and very grippy. the tee signs are large and easy to spot. They have a colorful hole map, positions for any alternate tees or pads, distances, pars and a directional to the next hole. There are also next tee directionals at the bottom of each basket that were all accurate which is nice if you forget to look when at the tee pad. There's a practice basket by the parking lot south of hole 1. There were only 2 other people there on a saturday afternoon in June so it wouldn't seem to get too busy. The course was very clean as well with a few garbage cans in spots and many benches. There is a solid mixture of long and short, left and right shots required here. There is a port o potty near the parking lot which is nice. Many of the tee pad areas have bag holders which is always a plus to have. The course is free to play and is in the ground year round apparently, both of which are major pluses to me.
Cons: There are some pretty excessive walks between holes but they are very well marked. A couple holes were ridiculous doglegs and didn't really make much sense or fit in with the rest of the well designed holes. There isn't a whole lot of elevation on this course, however I've seen way way flatter courses. Not much they can do about this though.
Other Thoughts: With the exception of a couple long walks and the probably 2 strangely designed holes this was a really fun course to play. Not really worth going too far out of your way to play but definately a fun course. There are quite a few other courses within a half hour or so too. I played white river and duck pond in Lake Geneva WI and Lions park in Harvard IL for a solid day of discing.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Great Addition for WIIL Golf!
Pros: I'm going to preface this with the fact that as of this year I'm a rather spoiled golfer. Within a 30 minute drive I have a couple of 4 star courses and this is one of them for a couple of reasons.
1. Wooded Golf that is a rarity in Illinois. The nine holes in the woods are unique to the area, and force people to shape lines properly as well as having two true par 4's both being birdieble if executed properly.
2. Excellent facilities. Beautiful Chainstar baskets powder coated with huge flags making seeing the basket a breeze. Full cement tee pads, and the park district building with nice clean bathrooms. Signage is the best I have seen on any course I have ever played. Accurate maps, NexTee signage directing player. Designated ace sign below tee sign to fight graffiti and give players bragging rights.
3. Layout gives the option to do the nine hole in the park easily if you want to skip wooded holes or only play a quick round.
4. Variety of shots giving no one type of player an advantage over another. The power arm won't necessarily outscore the finesse thrower.
5. Wooded rough is punishing to bad shots, but a fairway shot will be rewarded. Open fairways in the woods aren't super punishing but still require clean lines.
5. Some really fun holes. 14, 10, 17, 6, 8 all come to mind.
6. Holes 5 and 11 really require proper lines and golf sense to come out of unscathed, but can be birdied.
Cons: 1. Long walks between holes. I'm aware of layout issues regarding land ownership. I'd rather have long walks than no wooded holes so it's a compromise I can live with, but something that does hold this course back.
2.Some tee pads are shorter than I would prefer
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Marengo/IndianOaks - Top 10 in Illinois
Pros: Great course. Well maintained. Very little elevation, but otherwise a good variety of long/short, open/wooded, lefty/righty holes.
Cons: The layout is the only negative with one or two long walks between holes, and a long walk from the end to the start.
Other Thoughts: Worth the drive from Chicagoland. Better than any of the local Chicago courses.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Designer Response by: steakfest
4 Helpful / 4 Not
The reason for the long walks between some of the holes is a combination of factors that as designers we couldn't do much about. First reason is Safety. As is common in a multi-use facility like Indian Oaks Park, sometimes the land that you have to work with is peppered with various other activities. When Fred and I designed the course we did our best job taking advantage of the land that was "ok for disc golf"
As for the long walks into and out of the woods, (holes 4 - 11) that was also another land availability issue. The walk into and out of the woods is going through land that the Park District does not have ownership of, and It would be a terrible waste of some awesome space to not put holes back there.
When we designed the course we felt the walk into and out of the woods was a small price to pay to have those unique and challenging holes, unlike most of what you see in Northern Illinois.
John McGowan #49389
Pros: Definitely a very challenging course. Most of the holes are in the woods--long, with plenty of doglegs to keep you busy. If you don't know how to shape a good line, you're going to have a terrible time here.
Tee posts are very informative and accurate, which is necessary for winding courses like this. There are plenty of signs directing you towards the next tee as well.
The baskets are very nice. Not a single spit-out while I was there, and they're kept pretty clean. Tall flags make them really easy to spot, which is handy for these holes.
Definitely one of the more scenic courses that I've been through, though I'm one who enjoys the wooded areas in general. The tall ceilings really give a sense of scale to your surroundings.
Cons: Just taking the holes into consideration, it's not a bad course. That said, the flow is horrendous. It's a long, long walk from tee to tee, especially in the wooded areas, and there's plenty of unnecessary backtracking.
Since a lot of golfers come out during the summer, the terrible flow of the course can really be torture on the hotter days. The wooded areas get extremely muggy and the bugs will get to you.
The walk from Hole 18 back to Hole 1 is a long one, so park somewhere close.
Carpeted tee pads aren't my thing, and when I played here they were pretty sunken in. Some of them are obscenely short for some of the throws you have to make.
Other Thoughts: I'm an intermediate player who enjoys challenging courses, so my opinion of this course isn't because I suck at disc golf. The holes themselves were okay--it's the course flow that really ruined it for me. I never felt like I was actually going anywhere and the lack of variety made it feel very monotonous.
It's not the ideal course to play alone. There are plenty of blind throws to make, and the rough is very unforgiving.
4 of 8 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: challenging throws, you've read alot about the rough and tight gaps, its all true. a few bigger holes awell that you can really let a bomb go, while also including a few shorter holes. There are aslo a few holes that require a fairway placement, being the pin is not a possible option from the tee, this is my favorite aspect about the park. i really like playing golf style and not being able to 2 holes is important to me. good signage aswell
Cons: please see other thoughts about the layout, its terrible. The thorns could be cleared out without making the course easier in my opinoin but i have only played there once. you do have to be careful in a couple spots to avoid the streets and other areas of the park but the risk is minimal.
Other Thoughts: it seems to me alot of reviewers left out how sucky the layout is. it's a TON of walking from hole to hole, probably one of the worst layouts I've ever seen. Be ready to spend all day there walking, it really sucks.
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
So proud to live, so proud to die
Pros: Marengo for the area is a pretty solid disc golf course. The course has 9 holes set in thick woods with punishing rough, and they are not all tunnel shots. Hole #5 in particular was a multiple shot hole that made me throw to landing zones to set up my next shot. You have to stay in the fairway on these wooded holes; the rough is thick and often doesn't give you much in the way of a recovery shot.
The holes in the more open areas are pretty nice park-style holes with enough trees to make them interesting. There is good elevation for the area; #2 and #15 are pretty good uphill shots, and #14 and #18 are elevated tees. Several other holes had some degree of up and down. #14 was a cool risk reward shot for big arms that can bomb over the shule to the left.
The shots overall were pretty challenging. It's the type of course that can accommodate a wide variety of skill levels and still have something to offer everyone. There is a good variety in distances in both the open and wooded holes.
The course has good tee signs with a hole map and distances.
Cons: The holes set up out of the woods didn't seem to mesh very well with the other park uses. Hole # 1 seemed pretty close to a park road. Hole #1 and Hole #14 seemed pretty close together. Hole #18 is designed for you to throw down a fairway next to a skate park, but the anhyzer/forehand route over the skate park is wide open and it seemed pretty easy to throw one in there at somebody. Hole #15 played pretty close to a picnic area. Considering we had to hike a mile in and a mile out to get to the wooded holes and back, it seemed like there would have been room for more holes that did not have conflicts with other park uses.
As I mentioned, the hike from #3 to #4 and from #11 to #12 are long golfless walks that hurt the flow of the course. The walk from #1 to #2 was also long and confusing. The course has the added oddity that if you park by hole #1, you will be back by your car at hole #14 and nowhere near your car when you finish #18. You can park so that you are closer to #18, but then you have a long walk to start the round. Pick your poison.
The white tees are carpet or dirt. They could be better.
Other Thoughts: The course still has a lot of stumps and the rough is very thick, which is typical of newer courses. I would expect those issues to fix themselves over time.
There appears to be an effort to make the course beginner friendly with a set of short red tees, but the wooded holes don't translate well to beginners. Even though the red tees only measure out to 3,378', the nine wooded holes would still be very frustrating to new players. At 3,378', the red tees are much too short to be considered a playable option by the majority of players.
Marengo is a very nice course shot for shot, and it should be a good option for a place where players of various skill levels can get together and all have a good time. While it wouldn't have the level of challenge to host a NT tournament, it's the kind of place that could host a B Tier and keep most of the players happy.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Mind the gap
Pros: -Most holes are heavily wooded providing plenty of obstacles and challenge for players of all skill levels.
-Navigation is painless, The signage is fantastic.
-Beautiful, brand new chainstar baskets that have all been powdercoated blue and have highly visible orange flags on top of them.
-Good mix up of shots and distances.
-Tons of reward for well shaped shots and punishment for those that don't mind the gap on the wooded holes.
-Good use of available elevation
-Almost no fairway overlap and with the exception of a few holes almost no opportunity to collide with other park users.
-Super quiet park, the only other sounds we here were chains ringing in the background from other disc golfers. Also, Traffic is almost non-existent here.
Cons: -The tees leave a lot to be desired, This course absolutely deserves some sort of solid tee pad, concrete being the ideal option. The carpet is (in my opinion) probably better than the natural tee option as the carpet does provide decent traction. They are on the short side though so those (and myself) that have any kind of moderately long run-up will be a little disappointed. They are also fairly bumpy and uneven so watch your footing. Some are also gripier than others so test them before you rip,
-Extremely punishing rough (Also a pro in my opinion) that has lots of thorns and other brutal underbrush a mere 5 feet off the fairways. This may not be for everyone, but I think it adds to the element. I wore shorts today as it was the warmest mid-November day I can remember and after a few bounces off trees and into the rough my shins were literally bleeding.
-Stumps.... Everywhere. The fall leaves masked this little toe busters which made walking the fairways interesting. I stubbed my toes on my fair share of them and I know my buddy did too. Cutting them a little closer to the ground would probably be a good idea. Watch where your walking or you could end up faceplanting and you and I both know you don't wanna do that.
Other Thoughts: This is a good, fun course. I seriously enjoyed a round at this DCG, I could honestly see this course as becoming one of the more popular courses in northern IL. It just needs time to wear in, It's still a fairly new course. It has plenty of variety and a good amount of tight fairways and I really liked that about this course.
For those who live in the western suburbs or the NW suburbs who have been thinking about making a trip out to Rockford, do it, but add this course onto your day trip. Its not far off of 90 and if you take 20 back from Rockford it is only a minute out of your way.
I'd play this course again for sure if I was in the area.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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