Fishers, IN 
Cumberland Park Share
Uploaded By: MacDaddy Hole #4 (Taken 10/2011)
3 / 165ft.   3 / 219ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #4 Blue Tee

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1    10/23/2011   10/23/2011
Review By: indydiscgolf
Played: 1  Reviewed: 1
4 Helpful / 10 Not
Pros: The park is in a good area. It is surrounded by suburban neighborhoods and a thick wooded area. Nice baskets (Innova Discatchers), and the teepads and signs are top notch. The facilities seem to be in working order.
Cons: Absolutely TERRIBLE design. Walking up to hole one from the "long" tees, I suddenly felt my heart sink. Hole one is practically unplayable. There is a menacing creek flanking the entire right side of the course, and the hole leads needlessly close to this disc trap. The designer seemed to be going for a sweeping hyzer, but this is impossibe to do without getting wet. I guess you will have to take my word for it. The park gets really nasty after any kind of rain, and puddles form around nearly every basket. I lost my beautiful Z Buzzz on hole 4, simply because there is about a 5 foot wide fairway between large trees and an impassable creek. I would not mind this if there were any other purpose for this tight gap other than experiencing the thrill of possible losing a $20 piece of plastic. The holes, even from the "long" tees, are incredibly short. I shot a -5 on 9 holes, and I was just plain bored. Even if you are just an up and coming player, this course will either bore you to death or cause you to lose your disc in a flowing creek. There are a couple of open, flat holes that offer nothing more than forcing a medium power player to have to take a par. No danger, just flat and long. The baskets that do line the creek are unnecessarily close to the water. This would be interesting if there were a point to this, but it seems the designers just wanted to carelessly cause novices to lose plastic.
Hole nine is an embarrassment to the game. There is literally no fairway between the pad and the basket, not to mention that the fairway is the creek itself! Seriously, don't waste your time here.
Other Thoughts: I would have rather played Sahm twice back to back than have to play here again. Whoever designed this course obviously has no concept of disc golf (as evidenced by the horrible design of hole one). I cannot see any sort of player enjoying themselves here, with the possible exception of someone having assistance from some sort of inebriation. I wanted to leave by hole five, and the only thing stopping me was my wishful thinking that it could only get better. Needless to say, it didn't. If those in the Indianapolis disc golf community wish to grow the sport, this is not the answer. Making cheap, worthless courses in unknown parks will accomplish nothing. Take a lesson from the design of Brookside or even Sahm, where it is evident that a competent designer was employed. If there is any reason disc golf has not grown in our area, it is because of courses like this.

4 of 14 people found this review helpful.
Date: 11/19/2012 Designer Response by: MacDaddy
Interesting that this reviewer used the term "unplayable" for hole #1. Myself and others have played it many times. There is a very risky anny route, another high risk/reward straight route, and of course the obvious hyzer route. Which will not really give you an ace route to the pin. But where is it written that you must to have an ace route on every hole? As far as losing your favorite disc in the creek, why did you throw it, if you couldn't stand to lose it? Two letters, DX. Every hole has a totally makable air route. Not all will allow you to use a driver. That is part of the challenge. Plenty of big air route on #9. Several big trees were taken out on some of the holes. As far as the designer needing to take a lesson from Brookside and Sahm; I was heavily involved with the design and construction of both of those courses and am listed as their co-designer. The course is designed with two very distinct levels of tees, "Am" and "Pro". Having nice, challenging, 9-hole rec courses like this in many neighborhoods will go a long way towards growing our sport. Sorry it wasn't near yours. Interesting that this "reviewer" has never logged in to DGCR for any other reason than to slam this course. I suppose that is easy to do when you are willing to hide who you are...

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