So much hate, Why?
Pros: - Great utilization of the terrain.
- Nice concrete tees with tee signs forthcoming.
- Good use of water with only a couple spots that border unfair with roll away potential (hard to avoid given nature of hills bordering waterway).
- Amazing variety of shot types.
- Finally the local club has been giving this course some TLC (last two years it's hosted club final) since the college only seems to have a fleeting interest.
- Multiple pins make for any number of layouts.
- Back loop of holes 13-16 in the woods are finally getting beat down (with annual help from the club) to make them much more fair and fun.
- There's a bar and burger joint at the parking area. Beer and grub after a round (need I say more).
- Often few pedestrians (save during school days when warm) and less traffic than other area courses as it has gotten a bad rap (fine for me, less waiting on groups the better).
Cons: - Highway noise is loud on a couple holes and makes for an eyesore.
- Navigation is tough w/o a map or seasoned guide.
- Roll away to water possible on a few holes.
- Very wet/buggy after rain and overgrown in summer as schools out and the grounds crew get more lax (best played in early/late winter or early spring when ground is still frozen nightly).
- Few holes have strong leaf litter in the fall adding to disc loss potential.
Other Thoughts: If you gave this course a shot before and disliked it print a map and give it another go, promise its much improved and seemingly ever improving.
Criminally Underrated in Dry Conditions
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Played this course over the week-end. it has been a dry Summer, so none of the swampy conditions that I've seen discussed in other reviews were present. I really liked this course and really can't understand the overall rating of less than 3.
- Great Concrete Tees
- Lots of Risk/Reward
- Tremendous Use of Available land
- Wooded Holes, Semi-Open Holes, and a Few Bomber Holes
- Requires Many Different Shots
- Multiple Baskets on Every Hole (Yellow Baskets - Short but Offered Me Plenty of Challenge, Black Baskets - Really Test Your Game)
Cons: - Layout is Confusing in Spots (Need Map the First Time)
- Highway is Close but Only Really Distracting on a Few Holes
- Tee Signs
Other Thoughts: I like this course much better than Chili (played both for the first time over the weekend), this offers much more variety and interesting holes. I'll be back.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
A good, challenging course
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Concrete pads
Yellow AND Black baskets instead of red or blue markers that no one can ever find.
Very good use of the space.
Interesting and challenging course.
2 practice baskets if you count the black one.
Cons: Better bring a map because many of the holes are a walk in what? direction.
I played in December so everything was pretty dry but a lot of the places my disc ended up had moss 6 inches up the trees because much of the area is basically a marshland.
Very good chance of losing a disc in the water on numerous holes.
The expressway is noisy.
Other Thoughts: I'll admit I don't like water hazards. I never understood the risk/reward to them. Holes 1,2,3,9,10 have hills right next to the baskets so even if you don't throw into the water your disk can easily roll down into the water as mine almost did.
I do think the course is laid out well and was fairly challenging, some holes less so, some holes more so. I don't think it would be a course for anybody fairly new to play. I think it's a good, fun course and that everyone should try it themselves and see what they think. I had fun but once was enough for me.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course meanders over and around ponds, through the woods, along marshes, and over nicely landscaped areas in a part of the campus that appears to be used for very little else. Contrary to other reviews, I found the mowing and manicuring to be great (it was Labor Day, presumably right before classes resume).
There was a great variety to the holes, and you kept coming back to areas throughout the round. For instance, holes 1-3, 9-10, and 17 play along the ponds. Holes 4, 7-8, and 13-16 play through the wood.
Among the better features is an expensive option that few courses spring for: multiple baskets per hole. While I didn't play the black baskets, they do add some distance and challenge to the course for the more advanced player. The best black basket placements add a full extra throw to the hole. Hole 1 requires good placement at the edge of the woods near the gold basket before negotiating some tricky trees before the green.
I really enjoyed the use of water here. If you played here frequently, you'd probably lose a disc, but it would be on a really bad throw. There were no unrealistic water carries, and as I recall the holes generally had a bail-out route for anyone who really can't throw 200 feet.
Among my favorite holes:
Hole 6 threw from an elevated tee pad over the marshy waterway to a basket tucked away in a clearing next to the woods. Nice left-to-right challenge.
Hole 7 was a long wooded hole finishing on a basket on a mound.
Hole 9 was a fun shot across the pond to a basket on an incline on the other side. It was reachable by a putter, but there is some danger if you miss your putt and roll away.
Cons: While the chances of a lost disc were low when I was there, a few placed could have used some weedwhacking. In particular, hole 4 had tall weeds on the green.
Navigation wasn't bad, but I did consult the map a lot. It was pretty common to finish a hole and then see several paths going in different directions. A few more "next tee" signs would be useful.
The course isn't completely flat, but there isn't a lot of elevation.
Again, while I didn't play the black baskets, on too many of the holes it appeared they were only adding 60-70 feet to the hole but not really changing the way the hole played at all. Hole 9 was the silliest example. The gold basket is (according to the site, although it looked shorter) 263 feet from the tee, and the black basket is maybe 30 feet farther. Maybe there wasn't enough room to work with.
Other Thoughts: My rating for a course usually ends up being lower than the overall course rating (due to homer reviews and people who haven't played a lot of courses). So it was really refreshing to play a course that I feel strongly is underrated. I almost didn't come to play here because of the 2.73 rating. Hogwash. This is a much better course than that. It reminds me a lot of the course I have played more than any other (on a different community college course): Iowa Western's Treasure Cove. I never tired of that course, and to me this course is an excellent option for anyone from fairly experience recreational player to established advanced player (in other words, over 80% of the playing population).
I had a fun time here, and I plan to return.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - 2 sets of baskets. Black baskets are not listed on map or DGCR currently, but add ~50+ feet to each hole and often make the approach much more difficult.
- Nice, long concrete tees (a bit narrow though).
- Great use of water on multiple holes. Close enough to be on your mind and ready to eat an offline shot, but still fair with an option to play it safe (except #9).
- 1 nice water carry (hole 9) is a ~240' carry and slightly downhill.
- Course was very clean, the open fairways well mowed.
- Good variety of lines required.
- Good variety of open vs wooded, technical holes
- Good food @ the Bill Gray's at the iceplex.
Cons: - Mosquitoes. Wow. I normally don't comment on the skeeters because they are an occupational hazard of DG. I am commenting here because they were just plain ridiculous even with a very heavy coating of deep woods off - it didn't phase them. It was bad enough that it actually detracted from my round as I HAD to keep moving to not be eaten alive.
- The water carry on 9. I do love the hole, but if you don't have the distance to carry its a long ways around (not much they could do here with the shape of the pond). I ended up having my son start 1/2 way around the pond and throw the rest of the way from there to avoid frustration.
- No tee signs. Navigation was simple enough with a decent amount of next tee arrows on trees but I'd definitely grab a map as there are a few that are still tricky.
- The flow was funky in a few spots and w/o that map I'd have been a bit confused on some (like the 17-18 walk).
- Some of the wooded areas could use a good visit from a weed whacker and/or bush hog. Reading some other reviews I thought it would be much worse, and it is evident that some good strides have been made. But with that said, there were a few spots that had me wishing for some more. #4 was annoying as I put 2 drives within the circle (one ~10' from the pin) and still spent 5 mins finding my disc. There was another on the back 9 (I want to say 14) that was a L>R dogleg. The dogleg is enough that you can't see the latter 2/3s of your disc's flight. The issue is that although the fairway is ample - it needs bush hogged. It was knee high weeds / underbrush / grass. There were other holes like this, but this was particularly bad because you can't watch the disc go in. I again spent time looking for a disc that was dead center fairway.
- 390 is loud
Other Thoughts: Overall this isn't a bad course, but it is overshadowed (to me) by other Rochester courses that do something (if not many things) better. The only positive that stands out here vs. other Rochester courses is the many water shots which were well executed. With that said, I will be back again later this summer and I hope the bugs die down.
A note on other reviews: I see a lot of mention of this being very wet. I played in late June after it rained last night and most of this morning. It wasn't wet at all on the fairways and only really saw swampy areas off the fairways on the wooded holes which seemed to breed the army of skeeters. I can see where in the early spring it could get ugly though in a few spots.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Deserves a better rating
Pros: -I played this course last on 11-16-2013. They were in the process of adding "black baskets" (for the more advanced players) on a majority of the holes. I'm not sure if the course map has been updated. This review is based on playing the original course.
-Excellent use of the terrain/ponds
-Plenty of parking behind the ice rink which has a Bill Grays and a bar inside!
Cons: -No benches.
-The constant traffic noise from 390. It's to be expected, but annoying. Let's move 390!
-Some of the holes on the back 9 need a little loving from a weed whacker/brush hog.
-Needs better next hole signs and/or hole description signs. BRING A MAP!! Some of the walks between holes are long and confusing.
-It can get swampy on the back 9. Bring boots/bug spray!
Other Thoughts: -I have played this course a few times and can't understand why it only gets a 2.6 rating. I believe it to be a great course for all skill levels. I always have a good time there, give it a try!
-Make sure you bring a water disc so you can fully enjoy the course. Discs under 140g will float. Don't be afraid of the water! I have launched my wahoo into the water a few times on 9. Then I finally made it across - what a great feeling!
-Here's how I see it:
-#1 Nice starter hole. Open to the left (yay!) and water on the right. The basket is pretty much right in front of you past the rocks.
-#2 Now it gets interesting. The basket is up on top of the slope in the trees a bit to the left. Water on the right.
-#3 Wooded launch chute with a nice open finisher. Be careful of the water by the basket on the right. It's closer than it looks! (R.I.P. my blue Championship Leopard)
-#4 Another wooded launch to a clearing. The basket is up on a small hill.
-#5 Straight on. Trees on the right, a small creek/drainage ditch with lots of reeds on the the left. The water is deep enough to hide a disc perfectly.
-#6 Elevated tee pad that throws over the previously mentioned drainage ditch with the disc eating reeds.Finishes up on the right just inside the treeline
-#7 Pretty much straight on. Tight, wooded fairway.
-#8 Another tight, wooded hole. Curves perfectly from left to right
-#9 The hole everybody came to play! Don't be afraid...you got this!
-#10 Tricky, sloping hole. Pond on the right. The basket is on the right of the pinbe trees in fron of you. Watch out for the water!
-#11 Straight on. A few trees guard your approach. Right beside 390
-#12 Wide open and straight in front of you. Go big!
-#13 A nice little hike (through the awesome looking ropes course!) takes you to 13. Wooded, tight fairway. Curves perfectly for lefties!
-#14 It starts to get a little "scrubby" now. Curves right.
-#15 Scrub. Watch your disc carefully. I saw some poison ivy there too.
-#16 Right to left. TIGHT, wooded.
-#17 One of my favorites. Kinda tight fairway. Nice straight shot
-#18 The walk to this can get confusing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way is to walk beside #3 and 4. Kinda dangerous if you aren't paying attention. Another tight, wooded , curving hole.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course at MCC is set away from the busy campus area. There are wooded and open holes. Water comes into play on several holes including a pond and a large ditch containing cattails. I visited in October so I didn't see the overgrowth or muddiness that others have mentioned. The course was clean and well maintained during my round.
- concrete tees but a bit small
- variety of distances, turns, terrain
- water adds risk/reward
- scenic area away from campus
- ample parking at the Iceplex with eats & drinks
Cons: I needed to use the map because there is some backtracking and bridges to cross which can be confusing. Just bring the map and save yourself the aggravation. Beginners probably won't have a good time here.
- highway traffic noise
- no tee signs
- not the best flow at some points
Other Thoughts: I read the other reviews but I did not experience the overgrowth or swampiness. My rating is based off of my time there but I'm sure those other reviews are accurate for a different season. If you're not from the Rochester area then you may want stop by Bill Gray's Restaurant/Bar in the Iceplex, they really do make great food.
I enjoyed the course and found the pros to outweigh the cons. Rochester has many good courses just make sure to play this one at the right time.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 12 Not
Pros: increase of dificulty with new black baskets going in.The water is a great challenge for all and makes you play a few holes safe. constantly improving and making new changes. 1 major change that they have made is hole 1 is now starts at the hockey rink. this makes a nice short walk to hole 1 and easy to find. a snack bar right in the parking lot . great new concrete tee pads. very beautiful course. a nice mix of wooded and wide open hole that challenge you with wind trees and length
Cons: -no good tee signs yet
-wet in spring and fall
- hole 4 too short and unimaginative
- 14 - 16 get overgrown and buggy during the fall
- long walk from 17 to 18 that passes right over hole 4 and 3 that makes things strange an awkward when cutting through
Other Thoughts: if you don't like water buy a disc that floats it let you really experience the course with out having to lose a disc or loose money
I love the improvements cant wait for more
this course deserves more that a 2.6 at least a 3 or even 3.25.
2 of 14 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Under-appreciated course is fun to play
Pros: -Balanced design with variety of open holes, tight wooded holes, variety of skills/shots needed
-Pretty location with large ponds, large open greens, forest backdrop
-Concrete tees (some need more backfilling through)
-Challenging design with tight woods, over/close-to the water shots, open shots to protected baskets, elevated baskets, elevated tees
-Very low traffic - mostly run into other disc golfers, I see maybe one or two pedestrians every other time I play there
-Free to play, free to park
-Restaurant and bar in the parking lot
Cons: -Wooded areas tend to stay wet well into the season
-Buggy in the woods in warm weather
-Poison ivy throughout wooded areas
-Highway noise on holes 11 and 12
-Basic signage needs upgrading
-Longish walk from 17 to 18, basically unmarked
-Can be hard to find for those unfamiliar/out of town
-Several tees need backfilling
Other Thoughts: This course is still in development - 16 was scrapped due to water/swamping and a new 4 was added. So the numbers on the google map for this course currently do not match the actual course after hole 3. It deserves better than a 2.5 rating - the proximity to water seems to turn a lot of people away, but unless you make a big mistake or poor judgement, you really shouldn't lose discs. I only lose a disc to the ponds once in a while, and always because I grip-locked off the tee. Personally I think this is one of the most fun courses to play in the area - there are no holes that I dread, and it rewards smart shots, even if they aren't executed perfectly. I disagree that this course isn't for beginners - except for the over-the-pond shot on 9 (which is only about 220 feet to safely land), all holes are playable by newbies.
TL;DR: This course is fun to play - ignore the current low rating!
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 2 Not
play it safe
Pros: This is a great challenge with some woods and some tricky lane shots. The pond gives this course a leg up on most as far as difficulty level... it comes into play on a few holes from having to shoot next to it to having to shoot over it.
Cons: only thing i dont like about this course is potential to lose a disc... but hey! the only way you get better is taking a few risk and making a few mistakes.
Other Thoughts: i dont think this course gets the love that it deserves from fellow disc golfers... dont give it a bad review just because you had one bad round or because your too affraid to throw over water....... sissy!!!
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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