Kalamazoo, MI 
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Hole #4 Long Tee

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 Home course

5+    6/13/2012   6/13/2012
Review By: Lightman
Played: 19  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 10.1 Years
2 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Nice variety of left and right curves.
Variety in distance shots.
Little undergrowth in most rough areas.
Very narrow, accurate shooting required.
Cons: Very nice free course gets crowded often.
Cops search disc golfers bags since the course is behind a sheriff station.
Homeless dump garbage cans on course for can deposits.
Little elevation changes.
Other Thoughts: Hit this course during the day to avoid crowding.

2 of 5 people found this review helpful.


1    6/4/2012   6/7/2012
Review By: apdrvya
Played: 297  Reviewed: 287  Exp: 7.2 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Aesthetic--Nice piece of property on a multiuse compound with large playgrounds and other atheltic fields. bathrooms available in the parking lot.

Risk v Reward--This is one of the biggest factor here. the rough, sucks. you are more than punished for errant shots... almost merciless in places

Length--Nice variety of lengths with some long and some short and some midrange shots.

Teepads--nice and level. LONG. I only used 2/3rds of the teepads as they felt like your run up could go on for miles...Dual Teepads..

Longs--the long teepad positions are BRUTAL. almost every time you throw out of a tunnel before entering the true fairway (where the shorts normally are).

Routing--reasonably easy. normally there are two paths, one to the long and one to the short.

the two elevated baskets--nice touch!

Practice basket--Merciless homemade basket... spits out putters like a baby with creamed spinach
Cons: Baskets--nice mach 3's, some of the baskets were a bit loose or tilted

Tee signage--only on the longs and a lot of the hole "pictures" were destroyed. lengths were on all as they are "engraved"...

Garbage--A lot of garbage and cigarette butts around on this course and a general lack of garbage cans

Routing to tee 1--Couldn't find it with the directions provided on this site. updated it to make it a bit easier (hopefully)

Variety--I think it lacks here. it seems like there aren't too many distinct or signature (type) holes here. It kind of seems like you are playing the same hole 10-12 times.
Other Thoughts: Don't get me wrong, I liked Oshtemo, but I would rather play at ColdBrook or Robert Morris. I got my ass handed to me at this course but haven't based my review on that fact. I tried to be objective as much as I could.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 My Home Course

5+    4/26/2012   4/29/2012
Review By: Clive
Played: 22  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 17.1 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Distinctive short and long tee-pads (concrete) make for a ton of replay value on this course.
- Full bag of tricks needed for most of the longs and many of the shorts.
- Wooded area, but has well-defined, grassy fairways. You rarely feel like you're chopping through Michigan woods. As a result, tree placement is both fair and challenging.
- Good support from local pros, leagues, and benefits from a positive relationship with the nearby Oshtemo branch of the nationally-recognized Kalamazoo Public Library.
- As of summer '12 the course will have brand new bathrooms, drinking fountains, playground equipment, basketball courts, and expanded parking.
- Free to play.
- Sees a lot of players through in the summer. Get out here at 6-7 in the morning and scrounge up some free discs that careless players lost in the waning twilight the previous evening. Put 'em in your bag as loaners, give 'em to a friend, or call the numbers on the back and breathe heavily into the receiver.
Cons: - Heavily played. Course favored by most of the disc-playing KVCC and WMU students who live in the area.
- Not a lot of elevation changes.
- Sadly has had several recent bouts with vandalism. Middle and high school kids largely to blame. As a result, picnic tables have been broken, directional signs have been smashed, and the aluminum garbage cans that were installed 3-4 years ago have been obliterated.
- Hobos seem to get a kick out of dumping the contents of trash containers out to search for cans for that sweet, sweet $.10 MI deposit. They rarely refill the trash cans when done.
Other Thoughts: I live about 3-4 blocks from this course and play it at least once a week whenever there's not snow on the ground. I've never gotten tired of this course. I largely play the shorts, but having improved my game recently, I've started to play the longs more and more and absolutely love the added angles, choke-points, and sheer distance.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Hope to play again!

1    1/1/2012   1/1/2012
Review By: stoltzjl77
Played: 116  Reviewed: 12  Exp: 23.3 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Great layout, very challenging, good use of up/down and different foliage. Long tees offer much more challenging course. Requires many different shots.
Cons: Very muddy, not well marked (although trails make it fairly obvious).
Could use wood chips and better signs. Construction underway in park and it looks like some trails are being improved. Nice park!
Other Thoughts: This is a must-play course if you are in the area. It is probably much nicer in the summer and I hope to make it back and play again!

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.


1    9/4/2011   9/12/2011
Review By: lazydisc
Played: 12  Reviewed: 5
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Good use of trees, to make the lanes wide yet very defined. Some very interesting twists and blind shots. Trees sometimes create unique hazards. Interesting tee offs with beautiful scenery. The playground/picnic area is nice to have when bringing non-players.
Cons: If we didnt print out the course map of this website, we would have been incredibly lost. Somewhat confusing layout. Two teepads per hole..and if your throwing from the long hole no way to see if anybody is throwing or sitting at the short hole. Trash, drunken locals, bugs. After awhile it feels like your playing the same hole over again.
Other Thoughts: I found the course interesting and challenging for the most part. But I'm so glad we printed the map for it. How trashed this course is..but i did see a couple that were nice, who were collecting enough bottles to purchase wine..

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Not Too Shabby

1    9/4/2011   9/9/2011
Review By: chad groen
Played: 23  Reviewed: 22  Exp: 17.4 Years
This review was updated on 4/6/2012
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Even though this course is in the middle of a heavily wooded area, it has some pretty good holes with green grass on the fairways. Each hole has two tee pads - a shorter location and a longer location (the tee pads, by the way, are in really good shape). I don't recommend using the ones in the longer locations unless you're a more advanced player. Not only are they longer but they normally offer narrower tee shots. Most of the fairways are kind of narrow, but there's still just enough space that players can realistically land there discs on them and avoid the thick woods surrounding them. Some holes have trees on the fairways that can set you up for some tricky putts and approach shots depending on where your drive ends up, so accuracy is pretty important with this course. A few holes have blind tee shots that make them a little trickier to play. Also, the woods in this area don't seem to have a lot of weeds or bushes, just a lot of trees, so it usually isn't too difficult to find your disc if it goes in the woods. For the most part, this course is in pretty good shape.
Cons: It isn't clear where you're supposed to go to get to the first hole. It took me a while to figure out I had to go down this walking path that looked like it was there for walking only (it didn't look like it would lead to a disc golf course). There usually are multiple paths at the end of the holes and it's not clear which one you're supposed to use to get to the next hole. Sometimes each one will take you to the next hole, but that's not always the case. For example, the path from hole 15 to hole 16 is kind of hidden. I accidentally took a different path that led me back to the parking lot. Some holes seem a little too open and could probably benefit from having a few extra obstacles on the fairway like trees and bushes. are Some of the tee pads were real dirty when I played there, as if mud had washed up on them after the last rain. There are a few areas where the woods near the fairways are so thick with trees that it can take a while to find your disc if it goes in there. Some areas have roots sticking out of the ground that you'll want to keep an eye out for. There is poison ivy near some of the fairways, and the mosquitoes can be real bad throughout the course. Unfortunately, this course has had some issues with vandalism. A lot of the signs are in bad shape because of that. Also, because this course is pretty flat and located entirely in the woods, there are some areas that can flood easily when it rains and the ground can stay muddy for a long time.
Other Thoughts: It seems like a lot of the wooded courses I've played in Michigan have extremely narrow holes with little grass on the fairways, and it isn't always clear where you're supposed to aim because of the high quantity of trees between you and the basket. Sometimes it's seems like your only option is to just throw your disc and pray to the gods of disc golf that it doesn't hit a tree or fade deep in the woods. That's not the case at all with this course. It may not look like a good area for a disc golf course, but the people who built it made some nice grassy fairways and designed some pretty good layouts for what is overall a well built course.

6 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Great wooded course

1    7/9/2011   7/19/2011
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 15.4 Years
10 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course plays through thick woods with a few rolling hills. The minor elevation changes available are used well to add some challenging and interesting shots. The rough is thick here, but the fairways are wide enough for the lengths of the holes so it only punishes truly bad shots and makes you think about how much of the longer holes you want to bite off. There is a nice mix of left and right turning holes, you'll need a variety of shots to be successful here.

There are two concrete tees per hole, and they offer pretty different experiences. The shorter tees are great for newer players, with more open lines and shorter distances. The long tees often add more bend to the fairway or an additional pinch point to navigate, and usually add 100ish feet to the length of the hole. Both sets of tees have some decent variety of hole lengths, and the two layouts are different enough that it will keep your interest for multiple rounds.
Cons: Despite a few nice hills, the course plays pretty flat, and the holes do run together a bit at times. The signage is only at the long tees, and is in pretty sad shape. Many of the signs are missing or unreadable, it's a little frustrating to have to guess at distance and walk up the fairway to see the layout of the hole. There are a few spots where navigation is tricky, and this is compounded by lack of tee signs.
Other Thoughts: The short tees here offer a great layout for recreational players, truly new throwers will find the rough very thick and punishing when grown in. More experienced players will find the shorts to be a fun deuce or die course with nice technical ace runs. The longs are challenging enough that better players will have to bring a complete set of shots to score well, including some creative shots to get out of the rough.

10 of 11 people found this review helpful.

 Love it!

5+    6/21/2009   5/21/2011
Review By: 4u2nv
Played: 78  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 12.3 Years
1 Helpful / 7 Not
Pros: Many holes that are drivable as well as some requiring multiple drive.

Great balance of left, right, and center throwing shots as well as blind, tight, and open.

Great multiple tee placement course that allows for many different layouts opportunities for safari.
Cons: during the summer the course gets over populated early and often.

1 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Punishing rough, rewarding fairways!

5+    4/23/2011   4/25/2011
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 217  Reviewed: 169  Exp: 7.9 Years
This review was updated on 10/21/2012
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Sprawling over the gently rolling, forest- and scrub-covered terrain of Oshtemo Township Park, this course tests mental endurance as well as disc golf skills. Oshtemo, especially when played from the long tees, challenges players to hit their lines, reach defined landing zones, and avoid the rough at any cost. Punishingly thick schule comes into play off all the fairways. Oshtemo is fair: if you're in the schule, you mostly likely did not execute a shot; however, once in the thicket expect to be brutalized by thorns, thick bushes, sapling clusters, etc.
- Excellent use of elevation throughout. The course rolls up and down, and while no singular elevation change stands out as even "moderate," in general many holes have some decent trick of elevation loss/gain. Mostly, these "tricks" take the form of slight slopes down from the tee to a tiny valley and then back up in as gradual a gradient towards the pin.
- This feels like a well-established course. The holes are well-defined, giving players plenty of opportunity to stay on neatly manicured grassy fairways. Vegetation provides the majority of spills and thrills here. Avoid the trees in the fairways, keep out of the rough, and a good round can be had.
- Long, level, concrete pads for both pro and am tees. Descriptive signage gives hole number, distance and a good map of each hole. Port-a-john as well as restrooms (locked when I played) on site. Trashcans throughout.
Cons: - The schule is incredibly thick with very few paths throughout. This provides the majority of the risk/reward here, but after a few times of trying to hack your way out, it can get a bit frustrating. This is the only course I've ever played where I quit keeping score due to the frustration factor, despite enjoying the course.
- Not really a "true" con, but a lot of the "essential" trees have been terribly chewed up by disc hits. Plastic protectors in several places try to mitigate the damage to trunks.
- Pay particular attention to the signs, as a couple of times it is not obvious in which direction to head, and other tees' locations can trick you into playing the holes out of order. One or two signs missing in places doesn't help, but also doesn't make the course hard to navigate.
Other Thoughts: - The area had recently experienced heavy rain and on the waterlogged fairway of one hole, the ground was snap, crackle and popping like a bowl of Rice Krispies. I have no clue what this might have been caused by, but it was certainly one of the most interesting natural phenomenon I've witnessed while discing.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.


2-4    4/23/2011   4/24/2011
Review By: notapro
Played: 465  Reviewed: 280  Exp: 14 Years
12 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a large park, with lots of space devoted to disc golf alone. There are some walking paths here and there, but they are well separated.
- Every hole here is set in the forest; every shot has to be somewhat accurate to keep on the fairways. The alternative is dense forest and/or extremely thick rough, which is nearly impossible to shoot out of. The lines are well defined, with constant trees to the left and right, and any trees in the fairway must be avoided in addition to staying out of the rough.
- Great mix of different lines to be found. The premium is always on a straight shot, but there are also some tight, shorter RHBH anhyzer holes as well as hyzer holes. With some long hole lengths, the line off the tee can often depend on how far the drive is supposed to go. An short anny for some may be a big flex shot for others, and a short straight shot can be a bomber hyzer.
- Some very well protected baskets with narrowing fairways and guardian trees, and a few sloped greens. Two baskets are also elevated on brick platforms, for additional challenge. Getting near the basket from the fairway can be the tricky part of some holes.
- Constant elevation changes to be found here, with a lot of valley holes, and uphill and downhill shots. Nothing too crazy, but it definitely felt like there were a lot of uphill upshots, and the downhill shots were definitely noticeable.
- Excellent variety in hole length, 200's to 500's. Lots of interesting shorter holes to complement the bombers.
- Good tees, good baskets, and good signage when present. Some missing tee signs here and there, but still easy to navigate.
Cons: - A lot of the holes feel pretty similar, being inside the forest with well-defined fairways. There are a lot of different lines to hit, but there are also a lot of straight up the gut or hyzer shots needed off the tee.
- Definitely nit-picking, but there aren't much extreme elevation changes to be found. Overall it is good, but there aren't any big downhill or uphill bombers.
- No water anywhere either; almost every hazard present is a clump of trees or a thick patch of rough, usually resulting in a pitch out.
Other Thoughts: - Overall, a fantastic course that uses the available terrain to its fullest. Spectacular diversity in shots that are needed, and constant elevation changes to make each shot even more unique. Some tough greens make nearly every shot matter, start to finish.
- Course is probably a little tough for beginners, even from the shorts. Everyone else should enjoy some challenging and enjoyable golf.

12 of 12 people found this review helpful.

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