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 A day with the kids

1    5/7/2012   10/21/2012
Review By: lion
Played: 807  Reviewed: 23  Exp: 15 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: 1. First off the course is relatively close to Julian which has some of the best apple pie in the country, look it up. Lots of touristy stuff to do there and really close to the course is a camel farm with all kind of tours and things to fill the day with.
2. Course is set in a camp like facility 2 miles off the main road up in the hills with great views, fresh air, and the grounds at the facility stay well manicured.
3. Staff was very friendly there. They handed us maps, brochures and a nice rundown of the area.
4. The course is very easy to follow with the map and the majority of the time you can see the next number plate which is the target for each hole.
5. A foot and a half by foot and a half piece of wood painted white with the number stenciled in the middle are the targets for each hole. For an object course this makes it very easy not to confuse what your target is for each hole.
6. I really enjoyed the wide range of distances at the course which went from 150-500 feet in length.
7. Course offers elevation on around half of the holes and main obstacles to keep you on your toes.
8. There are restrooms near holes 1, 10, and a few of the last holes.
9. Plenty of parking at a few different levels. When you park walk all the way up to the top. The office is there and tee for hole 1 is probably 90-100 away down the steps to the field.
10. It was nice that the course finished where is started. Sure it zig zagged at times and did some figure eights on the course, but it was nice to end at the exit after finishing with no major hike waiting for me.
Cons: 1. Must call ahead and make sure facility isn't in use. So the course is only playable at certain times of the year.
2. Make sure you bring drinks or food. There is a vending machine on site, but no gas stations or super markets within 20-25 minutes of the course.
3. Course is located out in the sticks and is not worth just the drive to play it so please look for other activities to do, a few are mentioned in my other thoughts below.
4. No trash cans on the course, but there are some on site. Just need to lug your trash around until you leave or throw it away in the restrooms.
5. Teepads are nature and very tough for a few holes when you really need to pull off a big throw.
6. This course has a million crossing fairways but little traffic.
7. Courses plays along sides of buildings and decks that are a huge risk to get hit or windows could be broken. Lots of risky shots that need to be laid up to ensure no damage is done.
8. Course plays threw the tennis courts, soccer field and volleyball courts. So it could be difficult to play if any of those are in use. Some of the shots involved are cool, but not with other people in those areas.
9. Some of the hillside has thick bushes that could make finding an arrant shot tough. Best to play this course with a buddy or group.
10. No drinking fountains on course and you really have to watch out for wildlife strolling onto the course.
Other Thoughts: First off I stopped to play this course after spending the day in the city of Julian nearby eating apple pie, golfing, and taking the kids to a YMCA camp to go boating, disc golfing, archery, rock climbing, and other stuff. This course also has a camel farm really close by that would be fun to check out if your close by and have time. The camel farm has Camel rides, tours, camel products and much more. Weird and kinda different so the kids dug it and I did to. This object course is 18 signs with numbers on each sign and plays from one number to the next. Sure the course feels long with all the crossing fairways, but its meant to have little traffic. you might have to contended with kids playing soccer, volleyball, tennis, swimming, and much more if its busy. Camp looks great and is well maintained. I never got lost and had fun with the family here. If your just looking to knock this one off or is you want to just rip some drives and challenge yourself putting come by or add it to your day with the other activities I mentioned. Camp has great views and yes it's a few miles from the main road, but its quiet when its not busy and you just might like it.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Difficult to review

1    8/17/2012   8/18/2012
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 15.7 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: I'd like to start my review with a bit of a disclaimer. It's very obvious that this course is designed for kids with lids, it's not intended to be a tournament course and it's not designed for experienced players with beveled edge golf discs. See the other thoughts section for how I think the course does for the intended audience. That said, I'm going to rate and review the course on the same criteria as all my other reviews for the sake of consistency.

The course plays around and over the sports fields at a youth camp. The fields are nicely groomed, and a few holes play just into the edge of the hillier and brushier terrain surrounding the fields. Many of the holes have nice elevation changes, adding some variety and some challenge. There is a mix of hole lengths on the current layout, with a couple very short ace run chances and some longer holes that allow for a little more of a drive. A couple holes have some obstacles in play that force hyzers or anhyzers off the tee. There are course maps available in the office and at the beginning of the course that make navigation pretty easy.
Cons: Nearly every hole crosses several others, the layout criss-crosses the athletic fields so if there are multiple groups playing it's likely there would be conflict. The majority of the shots are pretty wide open, most of the fairways consist of a shot across the athletic fields with few obstacles. The targets are simply numbered posts, with no tee markers so you basically play from one numbered post to the next. There aren't always flat areas to throw from by the markers, we made up our own tees a little further away on several holes to have a flat surface.
Other Thoughts: As a course that's primarily meant for a small group of campers to play with supervision, many of the safety issues go away, and the lack of challenge or punishment for errant shots is actually a positive. It also helps that the discs the campers use are ultimate lids, so there's a lot less risk of injury if the crossing fairways do cause conflict. I love seeing disc golf as part of the activities offered at a camp like this, hopefully some of the kids will go home and want to try other courses. It looks like the course gets good use, we found discs scattered around on many of the holes and the campers who passed us knew what we were doing and were interested in talking to us about the "frisbee course".

Unless you're an obsessive course bagger, don't make a trip for this one, it's not a course that provides a lot of interest or variety for experienced players. If you do head out here, make sure to call ahead, the course is only open to visitors when campers aren't using that section of the property. Check in at the office before playing, you need to sign in and get a guest pass.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

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