1 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Par 3 4 and 5 holes
Cons: Very tiny signs on where to go.
Not too challenging.
Fairways too close to streets.
Not enough places to relax and take a breather.
Very basic course.
Other Thoughts: It looked as though they were adding new concrete tees.
1 of 7 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Longer holes that challenge your drives.
Planted bamboo around course makes for a challenging obstacle.
Course has a balance of pin location for right-hand & left-handed throwers.
Cons: Not clearly marked. Pins missing on a couple of holes last time we played. Holes not clearly marked. Had to do a solid amount of walking to find pins and T pads.
Other Thoughts: Course is in a poor area of St. Louis. Surrounded by housing apartments. Just didn't get a safe feeling while playing. Make sure you bring a friend.
Personally, theres so many other great courses in the area I would recommend going to another course.
0 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Landscape is nice and plenty of room.
Cons: Little to no signage
Flow is bad
Other Thoughts: Bring a map! Otherwise you'll be throwing blind on distance and even direction on some holes, and you'll be walking forever.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Course Could Be So Much Better With Some Work Put Into It!
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The park has just a huge amount of room. As one previous reviewer noted, there is easily room for 27, 36 or two complete 18 hole courses here. With that being said, I wasn't impressed with the current layout /design. There are a lot of long walkouts when I didn't see any reason for them. The terrain is great for the kind of course you have here, that is a long demanding one.
I thought hole # 3 was a really pretty hole. The natural fairway was three tiered and just kept narrowing down to the area where the basket was set.
Cons: Navigation and flow is horrible. It made no sense. There was no map on DGCR so I was flying blind and that was exactly how I felt.
The amenities are bare bones. The Gateway baskets are fine, although sometimes hard to spot. The dirt tee pads and minimal signage are poor. And as for those idiots who think they're clever for writing little remarks on the poles, please don't. I did appreciate those locals who used their sharpies and wrote the hole # and distances on the poles. That helped a little.
This course is described as moderately hilly. I believe I would describe it as mostly flat.
It was a little unnerving being in this big sprawling park and not seeing a soul. Kind of made me nervous. It's similar to many sci-fi movie plots where someone has deserted the planet for some unknown reason and some space traveler lands and discovers some kind of alien/ape race. Only this time, it was me with my disc golf bag and I discovered a course I couldn't comprehend.
Other Thoughts: If you like throwing 400-500 foot drives on most every hole, then this is the course for you. To describe this as a championship course or to rate it a 5, I would simply say, drive across Missouri and play Water Works in Kansas City and see for yourself what a 4.5 rated course looks, feels and plays like. Water Works actually has people playing it!
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Cool and Creepy Course
Pros: Very open course with long holes that demand a good approach shot. A drive is a drive but the approach will make or break you here. Private feeling as you play through an old neighborhood that has been completely grown over.
Cons: Most every drive is to a pin you cannot see so you may waste a lot of time scouting the pin. Bring a map. They have several online if you image search.
Needs updated tee markers. Hard to navigate. Would get a 4 if there were tee markers/pin map distances.
Other Thoughts: Please make this course what it should be. A little TLC, pin placement signs, next tee signs and benches would create a disc destination. Start with 18 pads.
Some cool guy posted a map on the course directory board and some copies in the 1st tee mailbox. Share them. Take one and return it after you play.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
A Creve Coeur Park/Logan University Hybrid
Pros: This course is a nice mix of distance and technical shots.
In my opinion it is a nice hybrid of Creve Couer park which is long with a lot of open shots and Logan University, which is one of the more technical courses in StL.
Most of the holes at Carrollton have some technical approach needed either by a well placed drive or approach. The technical aspects are not as advanced as Logan.
Carrollton has a nice mix of par 3, 4, 5s. I would recommend this course to anyone as there is ample seating, nice maintenance and accomdations nearby.
If you take this course for what it is, it will rank pretty high for the StL area. It has variety and difficulty with every hole birdie-able with a well placed drive and/or approach.
Cons: The navigation on this course is horrendous as mentioned in the other reviews. Bring a map.
Other Thoughts: 7 and 17 are the most difficult holes.
A lot of wild life roam this area.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Critical golf thinking required! Shot placement is crucial. Lots of par 4s, and some 5s, so you lie is important. There is some crucial thinking that goes into the approach shots. They are not usually long, but they are well positioned pins with "fast greens"
the more i play hem, the more i think Gateways Titan is the best basket on the market
Cons: Teeing area is natural, designated by counter sunk stones, and eroded (and muddy), & not flat. Some roots exposed on a few. My recomendation is to take a slice from ball golf and designate a tee box, and move the tee markers around so that your box will have some life.
Sidewalks and streets play OB, and run adjacent to each hole. If this were water, it would be rated 5.0, but it is a pedestrian hazard, so be careful about shot selection.
Other Thoughts: Most of the holes are long, so tee from a safe and dry spot.
Download a map. The tee signs and directional signs, and basket #s are TERRIBLE. The map helped me find my way.
Throw for accuacy, not distance off the tee because your landing zones are tight, even though it looks wide open from the box. Be moe aggressive with your approach if you lossed distance from a layed up tee shot. All in all, everything is birdiable, and anything can quickly turn into a bogie. Take your pars and move on. Wind and elevation play a huge factor around the pins, as well as OBs and very specific foliage
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Course is both long and technical. Mistakes can be costly because the brush gets very thick. I feel a great sense of accomplishment when I execute shots and pars on this course.
Cons: Print a map or you won't know where you're going. There's also no water or concrete tees. Some of the tee locations are tucked WAY behind trees and are hard to find if you haven't played here before.
I believe there used to be more sandbags over some of the sewer openings. I plinked a tree on 8 and had a disc skip across the steet and go in a drain, and also slid one in the drain on the end of 10(got that one back).
Other Thoughts: The first time I played here I wasn't too impressed. Now I love this course and find it very rewarding when you play the holes well. Playing the back nine twice instead of the whole 18 will be less stressful if you're throwing bad. Bring water and a map.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 1 Not
A Flawed Gem
Pros: Very challenging and fun! This course is in a very isolated park with hardly any traffic at all. It has great land for a disc golf course.. actually, it is great land for a couple courses. It is techincal and long.
Cons: While I enjoyed this course, I was also very annoyed playing it for many reasons:
1. Navigation is TERRIBLE. It needs a better flow. There was a few times where my friend and I were lost and it took 5-10 minutes to find the next tee.
2. This bad navigation would have been a little more excusible if there was a lot of empty boring space.. but there isnt. I saw a lot of great lines that were not being used between holes. A lot of land is not being used, I see no reason why there can not be at least 27 or 36 holes here. A few can be shortened and still be very tough and some do not need 3 placements... some of them needed only 1 placement because it was the perfect placement.
3. Tee signs are very necessary for this course. Most of the holes are blind shots... and since most of the holes are par 3.5-4s, it takes extra time for you to run up and look where the basket is.
4. Some of the low branches hanging in front of the tees could be manicured just a little bit better. But this is pretty minor... most arent bad at all.
5. Teepads please... St Louis Disc Golf Club is pretty good size.. I am not sure why they arent able to raise the fun
ds to put 9-18 teepads in a year on these newer courses that have natural teepads.
Other Thoughts: This course has a A LOT of potential to be a 4+... but I am giving it a sad 3. I love disc golf in St Louis. Most courses are great here. I expected great things with this course.. but I am pretty disappointed with it overall for how much potential it really has. It just seems very incomplete.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Nothing Like a Round in the Backyard(s)
Pros: -Nice Gateway Baskets that catch very well.
-Course is well spread out so that the holes don't interfere with each other.
-Course uses the available foliage, trees and brush to make some interesting pin placements and add some risk/reward to the course.
-There a lot of long distance holes on this course. A majority of holes over 500 feet. If you like courses that let you bomb your disc this is the course for you. The foliage also makes it so you need distance but also some accuracy to avoid the thick rough.
-This course has a couple shorter holes that are nice and help add a little balance to the longer holes.
-There doesn't seem to be a lot of non disc-golf traffic in the area.
-The old neighborhood roads are used well to add out of bounds and help add some challenge to some of the more wide open holes.
-Hole 7 was my favorite hole. It is a straight shot up a fairway with thick foliage on the left, to a tight sharp tunnel through foliage to the basket.
Cons: -Navigation is terrible on this course. Most of the time the flow makes no sense on this course. There are long walks between many of the holes. Even though there are some signs pointing to the next hole, they don't do a very good job. You will be wandering around looking for tee-pads quite a bit. Even with a map, it is still really hard to navigate, but it helps a little bit.
-This course only has dirt tee-pads that get really muddy after it rains. Concrete tee-pads would be very helpful.
-Course badly needs tee-signs. It is very hard to see baskets from the tee, which often leads to long walk up the fairway to find the baskets. Adding signs that show a layout of the hole and all of the pin-positions would help this course out a lot.
-Course starts to feel repetitive, especially on the longer holes (and especially if you don't have a big arm). There is lots of throwing on open fairways until you find the basket tucked into an alcove in the foliage. The majority of longer holes feel like they play exactly like the above description. The holes on this course start to blend together.
-This course doesn't have very many amenities. There is an outhouse at the beginning of the course and a table at the first tee, but nothing else.
-This course has a creepy vibe. It felt really deserted. Due to the old abandoned neighborhood streets, the fire hydrants wrapped in plastic, this course felt like a ghost town. At times I almost felt like I was disrespecting the people who used to live in the neighborhood.
Other Thoughts: This is a very unique course as this is the first time I have ever played a course in an old neighborhood. This land has a lot of potential. With better tee-pads, tee-signs, and flow this could be a very solid course, but right now it needs a lot of work to get there.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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