Huge improvement over original design
Pros: Easy to navigate - somewhat challenging - multiple pin placements and tees - good variety of shots used - nice tee signs - restrooms
The front 9 is a little short, but offers a pretty nice variance of shots. The blue tees are much more challenging as they really change the shots, even though they are usually within 50' of the reds. The tee signs offer information on both red and blue tees as well as each pin placement & par. The course is very easy to navigate, but watch out for hole 8. You can see 9's (B-placement) basket from the tee pad and would easily think that is your target if you didn't check the tee sign or walk up the fairway. FYI, the A & B placements are straight ahead, down a small hill
The back 9 is wide open, but still offers a good challenge by creating OBs and with the amount of wind you tend to encounter. On the bright side, the park is very well maintained and the OB grass is just slightly higher than the fairway grass, so you're not spending a lot of time looking for discs. There are a few holes that have bunkers, which (I believe) carry an OB stroke, but you play from your lie within the bunker. This needs to be more clearly indicated on the signs in my opinion.
Cons: Natural tee pads - wide open back 9 - no trash cans
Back 9 is a little gimmicky as it is basically an open field. That said, designers did a great job a making use of what they were given and making a wide open field interesting with man made obstacles such as bunkers and OB grass. It would be nice if the tee signs were a little more descriptive, but a seasoned golfer will know how to play each hole.
The park is heavily patrolled by local police. This is good from the stand point of vehicle break ins. But they spend more time staring you down (almost expecting you to do something illegal) than patrolling the parking lot. We just wave, and go on our way...
Other Thoughts: Overall, this is a nice little course. It's not championship caliber. But, for a fun round on a weekend, this hits the spot. They could use a couple more trash cans on the course, and concrete tee pads, but those missing items wouldn't really bump up the rating anymore than maybe a 3.5.
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Good use of land
Pros: requires all kinds of shots just not one dimensial.
good use of land and blend between open and wooded
Cons: natural tees
throwing near people alot
no map or directions of where the basket is
no par info on posts
Other Thoughts: its a new course so i am sure most of those cons will be fixed. I came from IL to play this course, and unless there is a tourny I prolly wont come back.
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Pros: UPDATED since back 9 redesign (ha that rhymes)
New course with a split front and back 9. I didn't really know what to expect the first time playing the course but I was very pleased.
+Front 9 is the shorter side of the park, with the holes being par 3's and around 300ft (except #4). The holes are mostly park style shots but the woods do come into play by lining some fairways and protecting some baskets. Front 9 offers a nice variety of shots and elevation changes.
+Back 9: Unfortunately a property dispute caused the majority of the back 9 to be redesigned. The holes that used to play around the woods have been taken out so now only 3 holes have trees/woods on them. It is still an enjoyable 9 holes to play but not as good as before. This is the longer side of the park and lets you get some good distance drives out of the system. To make up for the lack of trees, bunkers and OB have been added to create challenge. This makes you throw some distance shots that require a good amount of accuracy or else you would go OB.
+Hole #15 is the only remaining hole with bamboo surrounding the pin. I really like the bamboo and the effect it creates on the hole. Its maybe a 300-350 shot downhill but if you go long into the bamboo it makes for a difficult putt. Its better to try to place your shot outside of the bamboo to actually give yourself a birdie opportunity.
+Gateway Titans = nice baskets
+Nice new tee signs! Give a nice picture of the hole and other info.
Cons: -The changes in the back nine really took away some cool holes.
-Natural tee pads: It had rained the night before we played so it was very muddy and slippery so we just teed off 5ft away were it was grassy. If some sort of pads aren't installed soon the whole tee area will become a large patch of dirt.
-Speaking of mud, only the bunkers on 11 had sand (its not really sand but crushed rock) in it. This means that the other bunkers are really just a watery muddy hazard, and might require some disc fishing to retrieve a disc. (bunkers are only about a foot deep)
-Navigation: If you don't take a map and there isn't any in the box near #1 (which happened to us), they'll be a few moments when you'll be lost. Simply take the course map (under links/files) and you'll be fine. Just look for the wooden posts. To get to #3 to #4 you have to walk across the parking lot.
-Other stuff: No benches, trashcans, direction signs.
Other Thoughts: >Front 9: Variety of shot types on the shorter side that plays through trees + some woods.
>Back 9: More distance + open shots + OB/bunkers = more fun than it may sound.
>This course will get better over time, but it is still a fun and challenging course.
>The overall quality and challenge of this course in my opinion is lower than the other 18 hole courses in the STL, but still worth getting out and playing it.
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Pros: Great terrain - elevation changes
Very well maintained park - kudos to the City of Florrisant Parks department!!!
Another stellar layout from Dave McCormack @ Gateway Disc - good mix of technical shots and longer drives - Gateway Titan baskets - the BEST
Fairly easy to navigate - scorecard/map at Tee 1
Sand trap OB's - added skill dimension
Two tee and two pin positions
Fairly tight marked fairways on long field shots - another added skill dimension
40ft tall stand of bamboo growth incorporated on a few holes - exotic for the mid-west
Could extoll further but certainly an awesome addition to the metro St. Louis constellation of courses!
Cons: New course, so grass tees (had just rained the day before so a run-up was at your own risk on several holes - mud-slide)
Distance between a couple of tees a bit much
Difference between Red and Blue tee positions a bit ridiculous on more than a few holes (not significant enough)
Other Thoughts: Most Cons I could think of will probably be obviated by pending improvements. Play this course - you won't regret it!
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Pros: Front 9 play very well very nice mix had a few ace runs for me nice not to wooded play around for the most part but few holes go in, natural pads are good not my fav but better than most. Back 9 wide open except for 2 shots which are fun and ace runs behind the bamboo forest. Love the ob and traps idea on back 9
Cons: back 9 when windy plays hell with disc's, 600-800ft holes not my thing you still have people walking and running so watch out, park is big in past for kite flyers
Other Thoughts: Love the ob and sand traps idea would love to se more of this on every course
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That New Course Smell...
Pros: The Front 9 wind across and around hilly grounds and lots of mature trees. The back 9 are situated on a big flat field, but the addition of sand traps, bunkers and OB that shape out specific fairways on long holes make it interesting. Hole 13 is an example of an 800 ft hole across a field that was super interesting. OB on one side is marked by blue stakes, the other by pink, forming a tight, curving fairway to a pin nestled in a bamboo grove.There are 2 short ace runs (14 and 15) on the back nine, which are very fun. 17 is long but also marked by stakes to form another looong curved fairway to a basket surrounded by OB Bunkers and traps. 18 (I think I'll name this hole "The Widow ") is a shortish uphill run, but the unique hourglass-shaped OB mandate makes it very tight.
Also, the park has restrooms and playgrounds, lots of parking.
Cons: No Trashcans...
Natural Teepads, which weren't a problem but not my favorite
The OB stakes have to be temporary, because there's no way they'll last.
Other Thoughts: Had a ton of fun playing this course. This is a great example of using the space available to its potential. Can't wait to see it all grown in
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