Gladstone, MI 
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Uploaded By: dagwood112 Hole #15 (Taken 8/2013)
3 / 160ft.   3 / 260ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #15 Blue Tee

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1    9/15/2016   9/15/2016
Review By: Double Helix
Played: 144  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 28.1 Years
This review was updated on 9/17/2016
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course has most every challenge you could look for except water. You need every shot in the bag. Long and short tees. Great signs are super helpful. For the most part flow is really smooth, not a lot to get lost on for a newbie. Nice visible baskets. Some of the best shot variety I've seen in a course. Amazing aesthetics. Love the tips on the tee signs. 24 holes is a plus.Camping on site for a good price.
Cons: Only minor complaints. More of a rightey backhand favorable course. Good flow but if you get off track you are lost. Not all tees are the best. Some blind shots where you have to go up to check it out
Other Thoughts: This course gets some bad reviews but i can't see why. This course may be the best i played in a tour of the UP. Great shot variety, good sinage and flow, proper chains. I think some people equate a challange to a negative rating. This course is forgiving enough for the beginners from the shorts and a challenge for the advanced player from the longs.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Diamond in the rough

5+    1/30/2016   1/30/2016
Review By: da Crippler
Played: 37  Reviewed: 2
This review was updated on 9/23/2016
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Tough, tight and technical. Challenging for all skill levels. Well laid out, nice elevation changes, a good mix of long and short holes. Multiple throwing lanes, ace opportunities, a very well rounded course.
Cons: Gravel tee pads are rutted already, some have an unsafe drop off at the front, some pads have trees way to close and create a hazard hitting your hands during a drive. Too much leaf litter, thousands of sticks fall from the trees and don't get picked up, dangerous widowmakers in the canopy that don't get removed. No course maintenance is done by park staff and none is allowed by any outside individuals or organizations.
Other Thoughts: The baskets are scheduled to be pulled Oct. 9. The may never go back in.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Boycott this course

5+    11/4/2015   11/13/2015
Review By: Mud Boy
Played: 16  Reviewed: 2
0 Helpful / 8 Not
Pros: Beautiful course, nicely laid out.
Cons: Park management has been trying to derail the building of this course for 4 years. They have misappropriated money earmarked for the course and have refused permission for anyone to install tee pads or do any course maintenance at all while refusing to do the work themselves.
Other Thoughts: There is an army of volunteers waiting to finish this course but they won't be allowed to do any work by the park director.

0 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 trees trees trees...oh look, a tree.

1    6/23/2014   6/23/2014
Review By: apdrvya
Played: 293  Reviewed: 283  Exp: 7.1 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Aesthetic-- plays through the woods at a large campground on the shores of the Escanaba River. Area seems to be largely DG exclusive but I believe there are hiking trails that intertwine so be careful and watch for non-DG'ers. When the final 9 are installed, they are much more close to public areas... throw carefully.

Variety-- there is a wide variety of distances here along with many turnovers and left fades. There is never a monotonous moment here. This course will keep you guessing to be sure.

Elevation/Rollaways-- great use of elevation throughout with many holes following ridges and valleys in the topography. #8 over the road is a nice little ace run as is #9 up the hill.

Uniqueness-- While not installed yet, the last three holes that play to and from the island will surely be a unique touch to this course. I would be very interested to see how these turn out.

Teepads-- while they are natural teepads, they are level and without ruts. I really can't complain about them.

Dual tees-- I completely agree that the blue tees are challenging and the reds are good for newbies.. I would say, however, that the red tees are just shorter versions of the blue tees rather than offering a unique view of the hole.

Baskets-- brand new discatchers, highly visible in the thick woods...

Routing and nav-- easy easy. never once did I feel lost. Trails are fairly well beat in. Some next tees are helpful.
Cons: Amenities-- Benches and a trashcan or two would be welcomed here. While the course isn't crazy long, it's always nice to have something to put your bag on between holes. And, while pack in/pack out isn't bad in theory, in practice, it doesn't work...Garbage will build up.

Teesigns-- while I'm sure this change as the course continues to evolve, the current signs don't have anything but tee numbers on them.

Uncontrollables-- bugs bugs bugs.. holy crap the mosquitoes here are terrible. Maybe a few bat boxes would help?? The next 6 holes after 18 are apparently on much lower ground so water could be bad after the snow melts and after heavy rains. Also, the stink from the junk collector next door (along with his god damn rooster crowing) were a bit distracting.
Other Thoughts: Overall this was a great way to start our UP weekend. Excited to see how this course evolves over time!

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Real UP disc golf

5+    5/11/2014   5/21/2014
Review By: superberry
Played: 228  Reviewed: 94  Exp: 19.1 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Tight, technical, long and punishing, and also short heart pounding ace runs. This course is just plain fun to play.
Two sets of tees are perfect for the area, un-accustomed to disc golf until 2013. The Blue tees are par 55, and sure to entice and appease the advanced traveling playing (SSA likely around 51 or so). The red tees are amazing for all the newcomers in the area and campers at the park to become involved in the sport other than at wide open city parks.
Plenty of risky greens and even fairways which traverse along pretty densely wooded ridges with sharp drop-offs.
OB in the form of a pond (blue tee water crossing of 275' or so), road, and private railroad property.
Variation of distances within this practically 99% wooded course range from around 195' to 490'+.
Punishment for a bad drive, all lines are fair and wide, but hitting a tree can kick you off course into some untamed rough. Sometimes playing accurate golf in the fairway is better than power golf.
The downhill floater off the hill across the road is a great exciting ace run and the one opportunity for relief from the trees on the front 18.
Cons: Right now tees are just natural, not even leveled in some places. The park staff is working on improving these, and likely utilize a stone base topped with Watch it Bend Pads (unless they can work out an arrangement for the labor and donation of concrete).
The island holes are seasonal and actually yet to be played due to water levels and politics. So, just a 24 hole 'mainland' course out of a 27 hole design.
6 of the 24 mainland holes were not installed in 2013, this makes them feel a bit less open and different from the rest of the course because they are not broken in.
The road noise on the highway is pretty loud, takes away from the secluded disc golf experience.
Permanent tee signs are actually not going to be installed until July 4th.
Other Thoughts: This course is very fun to play. The blue tees are well balanced and exciting, and for a change of pace the red tees are excellent ace runs, or beginner tees.
Escanaba area has just experienced a boom in disc golf. PTP gives the diehard players an excellent spot to enjoy, learn, and love the game. The two shorter 9ers in town offer ample opportunity for residents.
Level all tees, keep all signage up, and keep the island holes in for the complete 27 hole layout!
Visit the Days River trail area while you're in town. Imagine a disc golf course there and tell the State of MI DNR to contact Watch it Bend!
Make a vacation roadtrip up Hwy 41. Play PTP, then Silver Creek and Powder Mill in Marquette.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

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