Niles, MI 
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Uploaded By: DiscChick Hole #14 (Taken 4/2008)
3 / 232ft. Par / Distance:
View from the tee. Straight shot.

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 Decent short course

1    7/15/2012   7/15/2012
Review By: cmchavis
Played: 25  Reviewed: 12  Exp: 35.8 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course was put in in 1985 and it shows. The course and the hole lengths in general are, by today's standards, short. The longest hole is 376' and the entire course length is 4240' but despite the length, the course is fun to play. Lending to this - the course has a nice variety of tree obstacles, hole variety and is well maintained.

The standard amenities are present - concrete tees, a practice basket, benches, etc. An Eagle Scout's project was to add benches and there is a bench available at each hole which is nice and they get used because this course gets busy.

The pro shop has pencils and scorecards available. back of the scorecard has a course map, but the course is well laid out and doesn't really need a map. There were only two navigational issues we had. First was hole 6 - the basket is offset and if you look straight ahead on the 6 fairway, you see the basket for 7. The basket for 6 is obviously though if you are looking around.The other item was the steps leading up to the 12 tee - at the basket for 11 there are other paths leading away from the basket, so be sure to take the steps up to the next tee and not the path. Simple enough though.

Holes 12 and 13 are pretty cool 'throws over a ravine' type shot. For beginners, the thrill of having to throw over the ravine is pretty cool - although 12 is short, having the elevated tee is cool. Most of the other holes are straight shots - but offer some mid line shaping opportunities.

Saw a few groups of, what I guessed were dads out with their kids playing was pretty cool. My 7 year old threw on a couple holes and did well on a few holes.

Regular restrooms at 1 & 18 by the visitors center.

Cons: I did notice a few missing tee signs, but having the scorecard map available and for most of the holes, you can see the basket from the tee made the tee signs unnecessary.

This is a short course, so it's not a very big con, but the course starts at the parking lot and doesn't return again till 18. The entire course is tree covered, but on a hot one - bring a drink.

As stated above and just about every other review - length. There are 7 holes under 200' for the majority of holes the basket is a straight shot from the tee.

With today's players being able to throw well over the hole length here. There were a couple holes where people were teeing off and throwing into a group that was teeing off on the next hole.
Other Thoughts: The pro shop has a great selection of discs for a decent price which is a nice surprise for a county park. Pay for disc golf at the visitor center - they do take debit with a $5 minimum.

There is a sign posted that no walk-alongs are allowed on the course and that all people on the course must have wrist bands. I took the family and they walked with me without a problem. $4.00 for a wrist band - that allows unlimited play, so play a couple times.

Holes 3, 5 and 18 are the only real right handed hooks on the course - RHBH. So having a highly overstable utility disc helps here for a sidearm throw. As stated in other reviews though - you don't need any high speed distance drivers here. In fact, there isn't any need, at all, for long bombs - the longest hole (376') has a fairly narrow gap straight out from the tee, so having a good straight driver is about all you need here. A stable mid or even a putter will get you through most of the other holes.

Overall a decent little course. Being out of state and only having time to play a single round - I probably wouldn't go back for $9. ($5 parking - $4 DG) but if I had time to play a couple rounds I would stop in and play. If I lived close I'd get the pass to work on my short game.

This is probably a 2.5 course, but it's fun and quick, so it gets the bump up.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 She's My Chubby Girlfriend

5+    11/18/2011   9/28/2011
Review By: TorboniousD
Played: 23  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 9.6 Years
This review was updated on 3/22/2012
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: I absolutely love this course and as a beginner it has taught me the values of having more in my bag then a bunch of drivers. Yes, you can probably play the whole course with a putter, but practicing a heavy S-curve while threading the needle in a heavily wooded area with a fairway-driver has its value too. Great mid-range shots and putting are important in this game too, or so I've been told. I'm no Happy Gilmore, but the narrow fairways have done a good job of helping me to straighten out my drives as well, and I find even when I'm off the fairway, the underbrush is pretty well beat down so unless the throw is completely horrible, I can find my disc no problem. The staff is completely friendly unless you decide to break the local county laws. They also have three tournaments a year with multiple teirs from the novice to open for trophies and swag. Only $20 which includes all-day play, parking, lunch and drinks. I call this course "My Chubby Girlfriend" because she's clean, nice to my new friends, and after getting my feelings hurt somewhere else I can come to her and she makes me feel like a hero. Great pro shop, and at the end of the year they sell all their discs at HUGE discounts...
Cons: For what they charge, if they kept the course up in the winter they would make bank. This sport has no "season', so I would give them much higher marks if they kept it open year-round. ANYWAY, yes, it's a short course. Play it twice and shoot for par, hero. YES, it is expensive. Park at the Indiana park south of it and walk over the border (most people do) or do like I do and buy an annual play and another annual parking pass (save $20 if you buy both at the same time for $60) which also gives you access to another county park that has a sweet beach on Lake Michigan. It pays for itself in a couple weeks if you play often enough. The signage also doesn't show the pin/tee location, but they have maps or join a couple locals playing.
Other Thoughts: It also has a great putting basket and they also sometimes add extra holes for the tournaments. AND to this date I can't ever recall seeing ANYONE walking around with just a putter... DID YOU KNOW THE LATE, GREAT ED HEADRICK designed this course?!

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Fun course

1    8/28/2011   8/29/2011
Review By: jimmie51
Played: 49  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 7.5 Years
This review was updated on 9/30/2011
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This course is in a nice park and pretty close to town so getting there is simple. The course is well taken care of and was easy to navigate. Short but challenging holes. The course is just plain old fun. Not the most challenging, not too easy, just fun.
Cons: None really. It is a pay to play course but I never have issues paying for a course if you can see the money going back into the park and course and it is here. I would like to see them dropping the pay to play for the younger kids though. Say under 16 or 18 play for free. The price was fair, but alot of kids don't have the funds to be paying every time they want to play a course that is so local to town.
Other Thoughts: Some of the holes have fairly high par ratings. There was a par 5 that I hit a 3 on, and some par 4's that honestly arn't needed for a solid experienced disc golfer. I am no pro by any means, I consider my self to be average and I shot two under and this was the first and only time I've played this course. I would reccommend playing the course if your in the area for no other reason its just fun

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.


1    4/30/2011   5/1/2011
Review By: notapro
Played: 465  Reviewed: 280  Exp: 14.3 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a lightly forested area, with some sandy fairways and gentle hills. The disc golf seemed to be well separated from the rest of the park.
- Majority of the holes are in the forest to some extent, with a wide variety of lines present. A lot of them are pretty simple, and open, but the shots vary from hyzer to anhyzer, with a ton of straightish in between. Having a wide variety of shots, especially approach shots, can be extremely useful here (FH, BH, various OH can be handy). Eight holes are at or under 200', but they are pretty diverse. Some medium length holes help to mix things up, which are of similar superclass design.
- Four of the holes are over 300', which so it's not a complete putter course. A few of the shots are pretty tricky, and definitely need a particular line off the tee. There is some rougher terrain/hazards present as well, where saving par isn't a given. Even balance of lefts and rights overall.
- Some protected baskets, which are usually hazards off the tees as well. Most of the greens are pretty fair, but failing to get there can lead to a very tight or blocked approach/putt.
- Some slight elevation changes, with a small ravine to get over on one hole, and a down and left sloped green at the end of a longer one.
- Good tees and baskets. Old school tee signs including random Out of Bounds signs in some rough (I doubt anyone pays attention to these). Navigation is easy with available map and scorecard.
Cons: - Biggest con here, for most players, is the old-school set-up. Hole lengths are extremely short overall, and usually have a free and clear line to the basket. Layout is also smushed together, so today's high speed discs can easily find other fairways and teepads.
- Course can get a little repetitive inside the forest, as the scenery doesn't change that much. There are some gnarly spots, and some sloped areas, but overall it is flat with trees.
Other Thoughts: - I always have a soft spot for some good old-fashioned superclass courses, and this doesn't disappoint. Some longer holes are present as well, which add some real difficulty here and there. Fantastic course for beginners, and a good place to shoot low for developing players. Experienced players know what's in store at a course like this, maybe worth a visit to see some of the tougher holes.
- Pro shop has a decent selection of Innova, and some odds and ends. Take a look when paying.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Could be better

1    3/26/2011   3/30/2011
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 15.7 Years
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through nice woods with enough trees and underbrush to punish errant shots, but not so much that you'll leave discs or blood behind. The course is mostly flat, with a couple holes using small elevation changes pretty well to add interest. Most holes call for accurate line shaping to stay out of the rough, it's a great place to work on short but accurate drives.

The baskets are in decent shape, and catch fine. The tees are nice concrete pads that are poured well and in good shape. I didn't see any trash, which is nice on a secluded wooded course like this. The course has the area to itself, with no interference from other park activities.
Cons: I'm usually the last person to complain about pay to play, I don't mind contributing a few bucks to play especially when it goes toward the course. I found it a little much here though, with a fee just to get into the park, and then another separate fee to play the course, it adds up to quite a bit. It doesn't seem like that money goes into the course, as 16 of the signs are missing leaving the course not numbered and a little hard to follow.

There's some nice land here, and I didn't feel like the design made the most of it. It gets really repetitive with lots of fairly short holes and similar lines, especially with how little elevation change there is. With this much money charged for each player, you'd expect a little more challenging and fun layout. On the holes that do have some elevation changes there are some major erosion issues, a wet day would be pretty slick out here.
Other Thoughts: Beginners can have a really good time here. It will be challenging, but not overly so, with reasonable lengths and chances to recover from the rough. More experienced players won't find it terribly challenging, and won't find enough variety to keep it interesting for more than one round. Don't go out of your way to play this one, it's just not nearly exciting enough to justify both a park fee and the fee to play.

8 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Good, Old times.

5+    3/23/2011   3/24/2011
Review By: noahrienks
Played: 8  Reviewed: 5
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Very easy to navigate. Nice, ample sized tee pads. Short ace-able holes. Very good course for people wanting to get into the sport. Some of the holes are nice and scenic, and I loved playing this course again due to the fact that I first learned the game at this course. The course is well maintained, and while it is not that challenging, it is refreshing to play a course like this once and a while. There were plenty of trash cans around the course to help keep it clean, and there were plenty of seats for people to sit and rest at the tee pads. Nice pro-shop with a good innova selection, too bad they did not have other brands from which to shop.
Cons: The cost. I have played much, much better courses for free. I would like to see the money made on this course, go back into it, and some improvements made. The course is very short, and you can use your putter the entire round and keep par or better.
Other Thoughts: I love this course for the sentimental reasons alone. I cut my proverbial DG teeth on this course, playing yesterday brought back a ton of memories. It was great to play again.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Putt Putt disc golf course

5+    6/24/2010   3/24/2011
Review By: Emoney
Played: 66  Reviewed: 16  Exp: 9.6 Years
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is truly putt putt disc golf. Almost every hole is a ace run other then maybe 4 and 13, for most. This course plays through all woods and is mostly flat. Some holes take advantage of elevation,(11,12,13). There are nice big concrete teepads and trash cans throughout. There is a pro shop with a good amount of expensive discs to buy. Clean restrooms near pro shop. The course is well worn and makes for a quick round. Takes about an hour. Nice practice basket next to first tee.
Cons: *5 dollars to park( non-residents) and 3 dollars to play....not worth that kind of money at off
*Course was built in 1985 and looks as if it has never been updated,u can just play with a putter and score well under pro par.
*The course easily gets backed up due to short holes and locals love to throw at u when ur not looking.
Other Thoughts: This course is truly dated and in my eyes is only good for one thing" ACE RACE". It will make for a fun round for most beginners but ams and pros looking for a challenge will be very very disappointed.

Also for a better selection of plastic, stop at the "pop shop" near stateline road. They usually have a large selection of discs available. Also they are combined with a liquor store.

3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Good Not Great

2-4    9/7/2010   1/7/2011
Review By: topflight
Played: 104  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 26.3 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: It is a heavily wooded course, but overtime it shows a lot of wear. a few fun holes, but many seem to be the same thing over and over. lots of locals come here, it is certainly the best in the area.
Cons: Several blind shots, directions are not always clear,but a shot off can easily be made up. lots of birdies.
Other Thoughts: locals were friendly and helpful and good players. the park office has many discs to buy...Innova surprizingly - I though Michign was Discraft country?

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Disc golf on ball golf prices

5+    7/13/2010   7/17/2010
Review By: destroyeroftrees
Played: 3  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 14.6 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Quick pace and easy to navigate. A solo person can get a round done in around 30min at timesbut gets very busy on nice summer days. Alcohol free park also. Decent pro shop with ok prices. Great place to escape from the world. Good maintenance on course. Great beginners course, lots of different shots, teaches accuracy and putting over distance. Tournaments are fun and relaxed
Cons: $7/day for non residents? Yet course hasn't been updated or improved. Good pro shop but most employees are not knowledgable enough to answer questions accurately. Seems they are there to sell discs and not to help find that perfect disc for you. Seen new players under age 15 walk out with a groove for first disc even after asking for advice on what to start with. Course is really short and doesn't present a challenge for recreational to pro players. Tournaments, yet fun, lack incentives and good prizes.
Other Thoughts: Great course for local family, new/beginner, recreational players or if your looking for a disc golf course to relax at. Nice employees and plenty for the family to do.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.


1    7/6/2010   7/6/2010
Review By: BucketBonanza
Played: 47  Reviewed: 30  Exp: 15.5 Years
This review was updated on 7/26/2010
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: A lovely piece of land. It calls for a variety of shots. Left and right bends. Some simple and straight. Blind shots over trees with no view of the basket. Ravine shots. There were a couple of holes that were purty decent to look at. Twelve and thirteen come to mind. Elevation changes. Some nice shots down groves. Birdies all over. Ace runs all over. A nice walk through nature.
Cons: I was a bit taken aback by this place. Just seemed like some major wasted potential with such a great piece of property. This place plays terribly short for the majority of the holes. Having to tee off with a putter is generally not a good thing. And where are the course fees going? I was really surprised to see that there was no signage on the majority of the holes. I think I only saw a couple on the whole 18. Maybe due to the short nature of the holes, the designer didn't feel they needed sign posts with footage and a general notion of pin placement. There is just no length here. Claustrophobia.
Other Thoughts: Okay. I had fun here. I enjoy the game. Nearly anywhere. It is just that I feel that paying to play better be a pretty sweet experience. This place was beautiful for a walk in the woods, but the disc golf course was not very inspiring. I think this course may have been designed back in 1985 when players were using big red wham-o frisbees or something. I wonder if they can utilize more of the land at this park for a more modern, longer, and more challenging course. Not bad, just a touch disappointing.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

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