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A great course for every skill level

1    11/18/2017   11/21/2017
Review By: Stardoggy
Played: 463  Reviewed: 213  Exp: 7.5 Years
17 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: T2: Turkeynator is the beast course on the Bill Frederick Park property. The park also has a multitude of other family options, so you could easily to a family day. There are also two other 18 hole courses onsite.

Multiple tees on every hole, with the shorts (red) and longs (blue) having all concrete (from what I saw playing the blues). There is also a smattering of white, green and gold tees on many holes, but these tees are mainly old carpet or worse. The concrete tees are plenty long and grippy, and I had no issues anywhere from the blues.

Signage was really great. Every hole had signs at multiple tees, with distance, hole layout, pin positions, etc. There was also a multitude of Next Tee signs to help with navigation. This, paired with the full color map they give you when you pay at the gate, made navigation really easy.

Older DGA baskets (Mach 3's, I believe), but all were mounted well and caught like they're supposed to. Multiple pin positions on most holes, with some holes have even more options. Baskets also had large yellow number signs on them, which helped this traveling player with locating baskets.
Every hole felt different to me, with a great mix of RHBH/RHFH type lines, placement type par 4's, a legit par 5 (for us mortals), well placed mando's....I could go on and on. I don't remember a single throwaway hole.

Really nice use of the rolling elevation here. While there's nothing I'd call a huge up or down, there's almost always some slight change. For what I had heard about Florida courses, I expected this to be board flat, but it definitely was not that.

Lots of tree-defined fairways forcing you to shape shots. There wasn't anything I'd call unfair, and most of the wooded holes offered very generous fairways as long as you can throw reasonably straight or hit certain lines.

One of the stronger water carries I've played. The shape of the shoreline offers tons of bailout opportunity, but if you can throw 330ish', this offers you the chance to go for it. If you can throw a little further, it's a super fun big hyzer shot with some guardian trees on the other shore.

One of the better first holes I've played. Tough par 4 that can provide some great scoring separation.
Cons: There are some walking trails that run through around the course (that play as OB), but you'll need to keep your eyes open before throwing to make sure you aren't putting anybody in danger.

From the longs, this isn't the course for beginners. Definitely not a pitch n putt type course.

Costs a few bucks to get in, but it also keeps out the riff raff...so maybe that's a positive.
Other Thoughts: I honestly can't fathom some of the lower reviews on this course. Maybe they weren't playing the longs? I really don't know, but as a 930's rated player, I had an absolute blast here. The locals were very friendly and only helped to enhance the experience.

Combined with the other two courses here, this is a great spot for a day of discing. Great spot to go throw if you're in the Disney area!

17 of 18 people found this review helpful.

One of Florida's Top Courses

1    4/15/2017   5/24/2017
Review By: wellsbranch250
Played: 335  Reviewed: 320  Exp: 5 Years
13 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: (4.180 Rating) "This is going to be an awesome course." My first thoughts after arriving at tee (1) and looking down fairway...
- UNIQUENESS - Other than Elevation, this course is stacked with variety. Dog legs in both directions, tunnel shots, pocket shots and blind shots. There's a wonderful water clear on (16). There's one par 5, albeit fairly easy for pro players, and a couple of placement par 4's. There are opportunities to let one rip, and yet also times you'll need to make a precision putter ace run. If I had to call out a missing item it would be a parallel water feature, ie creek play. In addition, holes (12-15) all have the same run of mill feel and were void of any major defining features amongst those four holes.
- MULTI TEES - To date, T2 has the most amount of tees that I had ever seen to on a course. Green, Red, White, Blue and a few Gold as well. I am a big fan of this because it allows every type of player to have the opportunity to play at the appropriate skill level tees.
- CHARACTER - In addition to the tees, this course has just about all the other amenities that you'd expect of an established older course. At the parking and tee (1) area, there's a community board, porta-potty, water bottle station and two practice baskets. There is seating and bag hangers at many tees and most are shaded as well. Many of the holes have multiple basket placements. I really can't think of much to add other that perhaps a pin placement location peg at the tee area so you don't have to run down fairway to locate the basket location.
- CHALLENGING - Other than mid level pros and higher, every skill level will be able to push themselves here. I think your typical advanced player (950 rating) will average even, to a couple over from the gold/blue tees. Playing this level will require a combo of both length and precision on several holes and require the use of every shot in your bag. In addition, hole (16), is about a 350 foot water clear, so if you can't clear that, I'd suggest playing the whites or shorter.
- NATURAL BEAUTY - In general, I found T2 to be above average due to the diversity of the vegetation, lake views and the subtle terrain changes. However, when comparing this course to other top courses I've played, its not on the top tier. It appears that the area is/was going thru a major drought at the time of my visit and its really affecting the look and feel. Several trees appeared dead or dying and the course was extremely dry, sandy and dusty. The course really needs a good soaking. Obviously this is not the courses fault and it did not affect my rating.
- MAINTENANCE - The grounds were in really good condition despite the drought. Very little trash, grass height was in check, the overgrowth was not running away, and only a couple dead branches littered about.
- NAVIGATION - Be sure and request a map when you pay to enter. T2 jogs around a bit, and without a physical map or one downloaded to your phone, you'll end up confused a few times on first go around. The map is solid and it got me back on track every time I questioned my next move.
- EVENTS - This course is known to hold major tournaments in the region and state. So if you're into tournaments you'll want to schedule a weekend here.
- TWO MORE COURSES ON SITE - Can you really go wrong with 54 holes at one location?
Cons: A great course with only ticky tack issues
- ELEVATION - Unless you only play Florida courses, you won't find the elevation changes here notable at all. Perhaps hole (11) drops 20 feet, but that's about it. However, for what elevation is available, Greg Hosfeld the course designer, did an excellent job incorporating it. I personally loved the ridge use on (17) and hole (4) is a wonderful sweeping slight 10 - 15 foot downward angle shot. Other than these noted holes, the rest change by less than 10 feet.
- DISCONTINUITY - It appears that ideal tee shots took precedence over adjacency. OK in my book, but expect several walks between holes over 200 feet. This is why I stress the importance of having a course map. There are numerous directional ques along the layout, but not enough for the clouded minds of many disc golfers.
- OPEN HOURS - The park closes at 7pm April thru October and closes at 5 pm the rest of the year. This makes after work rounds real tough to complete and there'd be no night golf.
- TIME PLAY - It took my friend and I well over 2 hours to complete this course and we never had to wait for other groups. So don't expect some quickie airport layover round here. If you are going for the angle, I'll suggest Airport Lakes.
- PAY TO PLAY - If you can't afford $2 to play this course, then you need to re-evaluate your priorities.
Other Thoughts: One of the best courses I've ever played. It will put a smile on just about every player's face and I highly recommend checking it out if you're in the Orlando area. T2 briefly held the top spot on my personal list of top rated Florida courses, but it was dethroned by Tom Brown in Tallahassee 8 day later.

13 of 13 people found this review helpful.

 Great Course

2-4    9/13/2016   12/1/2016
Review By: galluni
Played: 35  Reviewed: 11
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: I played this course when visiting Florida, and I loved it. Great variety of holes and shots. Beautiful forests and fields. Challenging without being unfair.
Cons: Some inconsistency with tee boxes -- not all holes have all colors.
Other Thoughts: I hope to play it again someday.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 big brother

1    2/24/2016   4/23/2016
Review By: dreadlock86
Played: 323  Reviewed: 259  Exp: 11.7 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -beautiful park next to Turkey Lake
-lots of challenging shots, par 4's, and a good water carry
-long and short tee pads, plus some rec and gold tees
-tee signs and bag holders
-subtle rolling hills giving minor elevation changes on several holes
-scorecards w/ map
-navigational aids (next tee signs) periodically
-practice basket
-pay to enter the park, no hoodrats
-locals and parks dept seem to get along and have the best for the courses in mind. a few people were out there managing changes and improvements being made to the courses when i started my round.
Cons: -some of the tees are natural and uneven
-some of the tee signs are missing
-more next tee signs would be great but navigation is actually pretty clear, tape on the baskets is really helpful
-many of the holes are very similar, especially 12-15
-there are some tight holes where luck seems a large factor
-when the two courses are done renovating they need a new map and signs
Other Thoughts: T-2: The Turkeynator is set in the pay-to-enter Bill Frederick Park alongside the original Turkey Lake course, the oldest extant course in Florida. The two courses complement each other well and make for a nice full day of golf. At $2 to enter the park, it is well worth the price of admission.

I have to quote Nevets4433 whose review below perfectly describes the course: "This is a very nice compliment to the original course on site. But whereas the original defaults to a lot of player's choice and wider lines, T2 requires a very different set of shots. Most holes have a very reasonable but narrowly defined shotline. Lots of scrub bushes and lowlying palms along with old-growth trees make for a lot of challenging tunnel shots."

T-2 is a more modern course design than its older brother but this younger brother is the big boy. It has lots of distance and lots of obstacles. There are legit par 4 holes that require a placement shot off the tee (1, 11, 17), a big par 5 (pretty easy for a 5), and a great water carry on hole 16 (with bail out options and shorter tees). The variety of tee choices makes it a pretty fair challenge for almost any level player.

It seems that new pin positions, new tee locations, and all kinds of things have been happening here, which is cool to see. However, until it is all finalize with a new map and tee signs the course is sometimes unfriendly to the first time player.

The course is very challenging but like it's companion course, I thought it felt a bit repetitive and unmemorable. I really liked holes 1, 16, 17 but the rest of it either ran together (2-3, 9-10, 12-15) or just kind of seemed to be there because that was where the flow leads the course (6-8). Hole 18 feels like an afterthought and still leaves you a good ways from the parking area.

Despite my grievances, T-2 is a fun course and makes for a great day of golf with it's companion course. It's a great place to take a break from the magic kingdom for the vacationing disc golfer and with all the other stuff in the park you can bring the family too.

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5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Almost great

1    3/21/2016   3/22/2016
Review By: RJRendleman
Played: 59  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 8 Years
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: -Great park
-Ample parking
-multiple tees
-clean/no trash
Cons: -outdated signage/needs more directional signage(on hole 5 I had to walk 250' up the fairway to short tee to figure out where the basket was
-no basket variation (non elevated, no roll away potential etc)
-most holes too easy to par with a bad drive
Other Thoughts: This course provided a fun round that could have been a GREAT round. I played the blues and for the most part left feeling like it could have been so much better. I thought the holes didn't offer much score separation. Most birdies required great shots but pars were extremely easy to attain even with bad drives and during my round I par'd 14 holes and birdied 4 (1,8,11,17). There were some excellent holes like 5,9,16 but holes like 1, 17, 18 left me scratching my head. Where's the mando on hole 1? The RHBH hyzer kills the cool tight fairway it has. 17-18 was a huge letdown to finish off the course with after coming off hole 16. I just felt like it ended with 2 dud holes. Enough with the negative part though. This course provided a woods golf feel in Florida. I like the added difficulty of low ceiling shots and the requirement to hit your lines. Sidearm, backhand and thumber are all needed to successfully play this course. New signage and some redesigned holes could take this course to a 4.5 easily.

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Family vacation Dad and Son DG day

1    8/10/2015   8/11/2015
Review By: Jparker230814
Played: 80  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 12.9 Years
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Shaded almost the entire play of the course.
-Variety of T boxes to suit many levels.
-Nice park setting w/ lake, trails, restrooms.
-An updated map should be posted on the site.
-Challenging but not overly difficult.
Cons: I usually do not bother throwing out cons because everyone has an opinion. The course plays well so enjoy DG.

2 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 A Great Add on and Compliment

1    5/23/2015   5/23/2015
Review By: freddysez
Played: 16  Reviewed: 16
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course has it all; skillful holes in the woods that reward placement without being impossible, some length, the par 5 may be the toughest length hole I've ever played, and the wind can change holes and shots in the blink of an eye
Cons: We played the wrong hole on 5 and ended up playing 8 twice, but fixed it and replayed. I think stating other cons is a stretch.
Other Thoughts: The designers did it right and didn't try to over analyze their vision and kept this a true destination course just like the original

0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 A Good Compliment to the Original

1    4/25/2015   4/25/2015
Review By: nevets4433
Played: 59  Reviewed: 57  Exp: 7 Years
This review was updated on 5/6/2015
4 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This is a very nice compliment to the original course on site. But whereas the original defaults to a lot of player's choice and wider lines, T2 requires a very different set of shots. Most holes have a very reasonable but narrowly defined shotline. Lots of scrub bushes and lowlying palms along with old-growth trees make for a lot of challenging tunnel shots.

I felt challenged by this course. It seemed to require a very wide variety of shots. Right to left, left to right, up and down. All through some difficult foliage. I really appreciated the tight lines expected by this course, but also the reward offered by a good throw. All of the lines were navigable by a good throw and could reward a birdie. Bad throws could leave a tough but fair scramble for par.

A very good effort at signage (although unfortunately a few are missing). I really appreciate all the extra signs that direct players from hole to hole, and the tape on the baskets that points you in the right direction. Many of the signs have tee pegs to show which one of the basket locations is being used that day

As with the original course, this park offers great amenities. Bathrooms on site. Kiosk shows the layout with a very nice map and suggests the proper tee for a player based upon player rating.

Holes 13-15 along the lake are really picturesque and alone are worth a visit.

It is really nice to see a bit more length variety on this course with some nice par 4s and even a fun par 5.
Cons: Pay to enter the park (the $2 is well worth it).

A seemingly disproportionate part of this layout is not very RHFH friendly.

Tee boxes are a bit inconsistent. Most reds and blues are concrete, but others are very uneven. Navigation to the other layouts is a bit inconsistent.

Hole 17 is a bit odd, it goes about 200 feet out to the right, then goes about 90 degrees up to the left. All of the other holes have a clear layout, this one is just a bit goofy.

Unfortunately a few of the tee signs are missing.
Other Thoughts: This is a great compliment to the original course on site. Longer at times, often more narrow, and usually a bit more technical. Both courses are unique and have a very different feel to them. Whereas the original is open, this is tight and technical, almost akin to a Lowcountry course. Come play and enjoy both!

4 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Novice First Impression

1    2/1/2015   2/1/2015
Review By: Sorg67
Played: 5  Reviewed: 3
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I am a novice player and have avoided T2 based on my impression that my game is not ready for this course. That is probably true, but I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the course despite not having the shots necessary to play it well. I played from the shortest tees (Green where available, Red for the others). These tees were more playable than I expected. Many of the holes are very short, but interesting nonetheless. I three a lot of putters and mid-ranges from the tees. This course requires precision, something I could use more of. Playing this course will make me better. I think I will stick with the short tees for now. This is a nice complement to the original. I played both today and they provided completely different experiences.

Novices who want to improve their shot making and course management should give this course a try. Novices who just want drive and putt should stick with the original.

I am looking forward to playing this course again.
Cons: Navigation requires paying attention, but is not difficult as long as you understand that the tape on the basket directs you to the next tee. Head in that direction and you will find the next tee.
Other Thoughts: Minimal risk of losing discs except for the 16th hole. I played it from the Green tees which avoids playing over the water. I spent almost no time looking for discs, my least favorite activity.

6 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Love this park

5+    3/20/2014   10/20/2014
Review By: Apsey
Played: 66  Reviewed: 11
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: -Beautiful park
-Offers par 4's and a par 5
-Requires placement shots
-Some elevation Changes
-Park works with club to keep the courses in great shape
-Camping and cabins available on site
-Two different courses to play on site
-Great tee pads
-Nice Baskets
-Offers variety of short and long pads
Cons: -Gets pretty crazy stagnant hot in the summer time
-If you're a beginner this course may beat you up pretty good
-Costs a couple bucks to get into the park (only like a dollar or two I think)
Other Thoughts: Always enjoy playing this course as well as T1. If you play this course a lot you will become a better player for sure. Looking forward to my next round there.

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

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