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Camenisch Park - Lower Badlands

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stuckinthePIT
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Great course, but hard to follow! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 2, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very fun and technical course with a lot of fun holes and a good variation to test skills.

Cons:

Some areas are not safe to walk because of lack of bridges etc...
The course is not marked at all. This is very challenging if you are coming from out of town, do not know anyone playing, and in my situation had very little battery life and could not look up the map.

Luckily I met someone in the parking lot who had a map, but the map is not correct. I believe they are still officially designing or making changes....No clue.

Other Thoughts:

I think the course as a whole is awesome, I shot a +4 and did not lose any discs. Which I thought was a miracle. I did lose one to hole 12 on the Badlands side. Which is a tough hole!

I think the course really needs an ambassador, someone to raise money, get signs in place, directional arrows etc....If I lived in Denver I would be volunteering for the position! Thank you for the locals who showed me the way!
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3woodmanbenjamin3
Experience: 10.1 years 8 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Challenging, poorly signed. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 18, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Once you figure out what you're doing and where you're going, the course is actually quite rewarding, especially if you're not out of discs by six. Lots of shot variety from the teebox, plenty of trees, and even some water hazards (looking at you, #6). Baskets are in good shape with varying heights from hole to hole; makes for some excellent/scary putts. Plenty of picnic tables and lots of shade for those hot days.

Cons:

Literally no indication that you have arrived at the course. No signage to help first-timers, little to no direction in the front 5. I accidently played #13 on hylands from #3's teebox due to confusion, and #2's teebox was marked with a loose board on a gravel access road. Granted most of these concerns are due to this being my first time at the course, but I was hoping a course with a 3+ rating would be a little more clearly marked/better maintianed.

Other Thoughts:

It looked like most of the locals opted to play 6-18 first and then finish up with the front 5, which looked a lot more sensible. So much potential in this course; could definitely use some help/love.
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spacin_mason
Experience: 13 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Wide open Bombs 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 2, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Fun layout, great elevation changes, long bomb opportunities, prairie dogs were an animal I hadn't played with but they were out on holes 6-9 (I think).

Cons:

Difficult to navigate, switched over to Hylands from the other course and started at Hole 14 or 15. Played till 17 and was never able to find teepad or basket for 18. Hole 2 can be tough to find, basket 4(?) that is in the marsh is very difficult to find. Some baskets are going to be in driving zones so you have to be wary when driving and when putting.

Other Thoughts:

Had a lot of fun and would definitely return with a guide or at least some more knowledge of where some baskets were.
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sjroesinger
Experience: 7.9 years 37 played 37 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Good Challenge 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 3, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Various holes (water, vegetation, marsh, hills)


Cons:

First 4 holes are hard to follow
Course flow a little hard to follow on the back 9

Other Thoughts:

Lost a disc in the water on 1
Was extremely windy when I played, making it more challenging
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jdw80550
Experience: 21.1 years 90 played 15 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Well I can say I played it... 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 29, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

-18 holes with quality baskets.
-Close to Badlands for a full day experience
-Not difficult to find or get to, unless you would be trying to get there during rush hour traffic.
-Some very well thought out holes

Cons:

-Soooo much thistle. It might as well be water in some areas, because if you disc goes in it, it's probably just going to hang there.
-Very difficult to navigate. Several people in my group were upset about how much back tracking we had to do, and the long walks inbetween some holes only amplified that.
-Not all teeboxes are marked. This was very frustrating on 2 and 11.

Other Thoughts:

-I don't live in Denver, so anytime I drive down I want to make it worth my while, and if I had only come and played this course, and not Badlands too, I would have been disappointed I wasted the gas.
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JohnPSI
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 27.2 years 93 played 19 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Better than the Blair Witch 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 13, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great 18 hole compliment to the original Badlands course. Less hiking up and down compared to Badlands.
Close to downtown
Brand new Innova DisCatchers
Well defined fairways that are mowed regularly
Competitive layout that incorporates water, some technical, uphill and downhill elevation shots. Does not favor RH or LH throwers.
Park is usually almost 100% disc golf traffic
Friendly locals helped with navigation

Cons:

Navigation is confusing at times. A few markers would be helpful in some areas. Recommend bringing a map.
Dirt tees are temporary, but not ideal
Needs better signage, hopefully incorporating hole layouts and correct distances
No practice basket
No restrooms

Other Thoughts:

I really liked this course! It's rough around the edges but still has plenty of potential. With good signage, practice basket, and concrete tees it could evolve into a 3.5-3.75 course. Hats off to Disc Golf Colorado and everyone who helped make this course a reality
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H.E. Pennypacker
Experience: 9.7 years 148 played 6 reviews
1.00 star(s)

Frustrating to follow 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 28, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Right next to badlands.

Cons:

Maddeningly hard to follow. Hole 2 seemed to be missing. Teed off on hole 3, threw to a basket marked #1, so who the heck knows if it was actually the right one. No logical flow between holes 6-7-8.

Other Thoughts:

Good concept, but the course is obviously still a WIP. Massively pales in comparison to badlands. For the time i spent trekking around the course searching for tee pads and baskets, I could have just played a much less frustrating round at badlands.
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AndyJB
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 32.9 years 52 played 42 reviews
2.50 star(s)

FINALLY permanent! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 18, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Decent variety of shots, but only one true right-finishing hole (hole 16)

Lots of trees, water and other natural obstacles to provide some added challenge. OB, at this time, is still clearly marked with orange paint which helps

-Navigation is very smooth; much better than the old Blair Witch

-Perfect blend of old Blair Witch holes, modified Blair Witch holes, classic temp course holes and all-new holes

-Good use of mandos add to both safety and challenge

Cons:

-Open for play, but far from complete. Dirt or grass teepads. 2 holes (13 and 15) still use the homemade, non-catching Blair Witch baskets. Tee sign distances are all off due to the baskets not being in their final positions.

-Hole 13 tees off right next to an extremely busy road. No barrier there so it is LOUD. Doesn't bother me, but for the neurotic disc golfer this could be hell.

-Holes 10-15 are in the most wide open area, yet somehow have the most criss-crossing fairways. It's not dangerous per se' but it could be if it is crowded.

-BUGS! Even in mid-October the gnats were outrageous. Make sure you bring good, strong bug spray and long socks.

Other Thoughts:

This course is a great addition to the original Badlands. Adding an entire 18 hole course from the remnants of the old 9-hole Blair Witch is a stroke of genius. Many of the holes here have been used in the past for temp courses for tournaments like the 303 Open/Championships, Denver Classic and the One Day Series. This keeps it familiar for the core group of tourney players.

This is a fairly short course compared to Badlands. There's not a single hole over 375 (despite what the teesigns say) and there are three in the 200-225 range. However, it's not quite short enough to be used as a warm-up for Badlands. I'd use it more for a cool down. Either way, it makes a great set of 36 holes.

Great job to all the designers and volunteers who made this happen. Hopefully by Spring 2016 all baskets will be in their final postions, with the two Blair Witch baskets gone.
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Badger Dan
Experience: 20.9 years 183 played 9 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Unfinished product with high potential 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 29, 2015 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

First off, I wanted to offer a dissenting point of view because I feel the 2 reviews thus far giving a 4/5 rating (excellent) are somewhat misleading. There are courses in the greater Denver area that are a lot more enjoyable to play in their current state without any doubt. Not here to knock Hylands by any means but as my title indicates, this course still needs some work and is not a complete experience in its present form.
Hole 1- Fun shot across the pond. Has been in the deeper left placement when I've played which makes for a blind shot of greater distance than the listed 260 ft. Small dirt tee which could pose some trouble.
Hole 2- The field was entirely dug up when I played with mounds of dirt, mud puddles after the rain storm, and no obvious tee box. We threw from a stake with a blue flag aiming at the basket on the ridge from what I would estimate was 320 ft. Again, the listed 280 ft. is under actual distance
Hole 3- I really like this hole. A shorter shot that demands a lot of accuracy. The basket was difficult to see from the tee and I would have like something on the sign indicating the pin was left from center.
Hole 4- Really nice hole design with a straight, narrow fairway and hidden pin placement that drops down into a recessed, wooded alcove. A tough par adding to course difficulty.
Hole 5- Long shot back over to the south end of the pond. Somewhat blind shot with the dirt road bordering to the right. Careful of the steep ditch on the other side of the road.
Hole 6- Tee is concrete on the far end of the parking lot. Shot goes over the pond again, this time necessitating at least a 200 ft. shot to clear the OB. Also has a steep dropoff behind the basket requiring accuracy and range. A cool hole design.
Hole 7-18- In the interest of brevity, I'll summarize the remaining holes as mostly open with some strategically placed trees. Holes like 9, 10, 13 and 15 have some interesting features making for tough shots. Holes 8 and 11 are very short. Hole 18 is somewhat awkward as it borders the baseball field and people were sitting on the hill right in the fairway last time I played. The tee for hole 13 is perhaps the most unappealing location I have ever thrown from (no joke). It is directly bordering a busy 4 lane road and very noisy with no tree cover or barriers whatsoever. Maybe it would be less obtrusive if playing early in the morning, I don't know.
I look forward to playing this course many more times and seeing how it progresses in the next year. I will certainly update my review and rating accordingly. Happy discing!

Dan
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Lightbringer
Experience: 16 years 11 played 7 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Unlimited Potential 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 7, 2015 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

It's got a decent location next to Badlands in Federal Heights, making for 36 quality holes of disc golf right next to each other. The first time I played it I was impressed with how much land the city let them use, and they used it well.

Being co-located with Badlands, it enjoys two major advantages that the latter also has over the majority of Denver area courses - namely that it plays over elevation changes, and almost every inch of it is mowed. Those two things alone make it stand out from all of the flat, overgrown fields out there with baskets in them.

The course design is excellent (for the most part).

Holes #1 and #6 play over a large pond that will make you think twice about which disc you are about to throw.

Holes #2-#5 play through a very technical and tightly wooded area which used to house the 9 hole Blair Witch course. Hole #3 plays over a deep ditch, through a narrow window over and between trees, to a basket at a lower elevation. Hole #4 plays through two narrow corridors of trees and finishes in a cool, creepy grove after a sudden elevation drop.

Hole #8 plays up a very steep hill with the basket placed right on the edge of the slope, making even close putt attempts hair-raising.

Holes #7-#12 play over rolling hills toward the east past the baseball diamonds, and they very closely resemble a ball golf course because of their wide, maintained fairways with devious risk/reward obstacles. This is my favorite part of the course because there are a lot of ways to approach each hole but almost none of them are simple. It's the perfect amount of difficulty.

Holes #13-#18 play back west towards the direction of the parking lot over the same stretch of land. Hole #13 is another one of my favorites with a very difficult decision of how to reach the pin down across a small draw and up into a grove of aspens. You could play it safe and shoot to the left of the grove, or you can try to land in a small avenue at the bottom of the hill and shoot straight through. Holes #17 and #18 both use mandos to make things a little more interesting.

This is a moderately long course with a MASSIVE amount of variation for being in the Denver area. It has something to challenge everyone. You could definitely ace about half of the holes but good god would you be impressed with yourself if you did. The best thing about some of the holes is that there isn't just one way to succeed. There are several, but none of them are necessarily easy.

And lastly, this isn't necessarily a tangible benefit to how this place plays, but it's something I really enjoy about this course as it is now: it has kind of an air of discovery about it. It's brand new, and the local disc golf community funded and built it under the direction of a committee and the organization of Phenix Disc Sports. Fundraisers are still underway to finish it off. In the mean time, it is not well known, and there is a ruggedness to it that adds a little edge. You'll find yourself crossing shady-looking drainage ditches on makeshift walkways made of shipping pallets. You'll trek through narrow corridors of gnarly looking trees. I like it.

Cons:

With great pros, sometimes come great cons.

First, a minor (temporary) one: there is almost zero signage and the tees are dirt for now. I don't mind the tees that much at all, but you WILL get lost and not know where the next hole is the first time you play, unless you have a map. Once you play it and see how it all works it's not bad, and they are supposed to add all of that stuff soon. Hey, the course is brand new, after all.

Second, there are at times some very rough conditions along the course. This course will devour your discs if you are not playing well. There is always going to be somewhere you simply DO NOT want your disc to go. Namely; the pond (obvious, but just wait), the deep ditch along the south side of hole #5, the impenetrable wall of evil-looking vegetation along the north side of holes 9-16, and the god-forsaken mini marsh around the south side of holes 15-17. The fairways are mowed to perfection, but I pity you if your disc goes off the fairway.

On a related note, the design of hole #15 is great in concept, but it has you shooting a long, blind shot around a sharp left-hand corner and DIRECTLY into said marsh thing. Once, when I was playing here alone, I threw one of the best shots of my life that sailed perfectly right through the gap and then cut left around the corner, only to be lost forever. It had to be somewhere in the general area of the basket but I just could not find it. DO NOT play hole #15 without a spotter. Once your disc passes a certain point you have no way to see where it lands.



Other Thoughts:

This is my new home course. I've been trying to play it as much as I can since I found out about it in August, and I pitched in a bit for the fundraiser after I found that I liked it so much. With the continued support of the local community, this course has a HUGE amount of potential. Even as it is now it is one of the best courses in the entire Greater Denver area, period.

Yes, it is almost completely unmarked. Yes, there are unspeakable horrors enveloping every fairway. But those fairways are mowed and the holes that inhabit them are gold. The unmaintained, mostly open and flat courses that are the norm for the Denver area simply do not stand up in comparison.

Add in some tee pads and some good signs, and I will change this rating to 4.5.

If you like disc golf courses that are similar to ball golf courses, look no further. This course has a future as the venue of championships.
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TheBrownZombie
Experience: 16.9 years 93 played 14 reviews
4.00 star(s)

One of the best denver courses! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 4, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

This is a new course on the lower part of Camenisch Park which the locals are calling Lower Badlands. This has a great mix of in the woods shots, wide open shots, uphill and downhill and the fairway is very nicely groomed compared to other courses in the area.

Cons:

No cement tees yet, but they plan on creating some by the end of the summer.

Other Thoughts:

Cant wait until they fully finish the course, this has already become one of my favorites in the denver area and its nice to have two nicely groomed courses back to back.
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