8 Helpful / 0 Not
After expanding by adding five holes mostly through the woods this course is now nicely balanced between open vs. tight and long vs. short. The variability of the course is enhanced by multiple pin positions on many of the holes. For the most part baskets are quality multi-chain Chainstars. Concrete tees are always a pleasure. Some brutal drop-offs add to the risk/reward challenge of the course, which is designed to be played with sidewalk/street and beyond as OB. Excellent use of elevation. Good use of trees and water hazards. Nice restrooms with water fountains on site.
Signage here is atrocious: leftover signs from the old layout haven't been removed and cause confusion on the new layout. Many holes have no signs at all. Distances on most signs are no longer correct and there is no way of indicating which pin position is active on a hole. This course is subject to hordes of mob golf which can lead to long waits on some holes. Parking has the potential to be tight, but is offset by multiple parking lots spread throughout the course. The holes between #15-19 run through a playground/picnic area where you're apt to run into a lot of oblivious non-golfers in the fairways. Hole #8 needs to lose a couple of the trees on the downside of the hill to reward a shot that hits the early gap. First timers require a map, especially for the transitions between #4/5, #14/15, and #19/20.
For the 2011 Waco Charity Open painted hole numbers were added to each tee pad. Those were nice but we'll see if they hold up over time. Don't be fooled by the "multiple tee" listing here: only two or three holes actually have two pads. Cameron is a good course that will challenge many parts of your game, especially if you play with the tight OB rules.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Excellent all-around course
Pros: - 23 holes with all kinds of shots. You'll encounter uphill, downhill, wooded, open, and a small smattering of water hazards.
- The course is short enough for beginners to enjoy themselves, but also interesting enough to keep the attention of more experienced players. Birdie/ace runs galore, if you have the ability for it.
- Restrooms (parking area, 15, 19, and 21) and water (4, 12, everywhere that has restrooms) are available at numerous points throughout the course.
- Good tee signs, still very new and in good condition. The signs are almost superfluous; you can usually see the basket from the tee.
- The course is split into "pods" - 1-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15-19, 20/21/23, and 22 out on its own. If you're short on time, it's very easy to piece together a custom round.
- Hole 23 in the uphill configuration provides a wonderful twist at the end.
- Local tip: there is a spring in between holes 4 and 5 that runs at around 60 degrees. It's a great place to refill your water bottles, especially on a hot summer day.
Cons: - Course length: most of the holes are in the 200's, and only two holes are above 350'. In some areas, the hole lengths start to feel monotonous.
- Some of the walks between "pods" are long and confusing for a first-time player. Consult the course map or a local for help.
- Mob golf can be an issue on evenings and weekends when the weather is nice. Course etiquette is okay - some groups are bad, others great.
- Parking can be difficult if there's an event going on at the Redwood Shelter. If that's the case, there are other parking areas available (mainly the 4th Street lot, between holes 4, 5, and 10).
- There is poison ivy on the course.
- Some holes are starting to see slope erosion and slipping hazards. Be careful.
- Holes 15-19 are in a "multi-use" area. It's very common to see people barbecuing, picnicking, or playing soccer in the middle of the fairways.
- The Brazos River loves to consume errant throws on 22.
Other Thoughts: Cameron Park is the most popular course in Waco, and for good reason. It's well-designed, there's something in it for all skill levels, and the facilities are good and improving. I'd definitely recommend this course to anyone in or visiting Waco, along with what's left of Brazos Park East.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
You might want a sherpa to play this course
Pros: 1) OK variety in hole distances. Most are the mid to upper 200's but there are some shorter ones in the 100's and a few in the 300's and 400's. I like to see this as part of a good design.
2) Concrete tees are always a plus. Apparently these have been updated since I was there!
3) Massive elevation changes on this course on the first half of the course. It isn't a skihill but it is nice elevation for Texas that's for sure.
4) Nice park with lots of other things going on. Disc golf seems to be well removed from most of these areas but you still need to be aware of other park users.
5) Old garden or historical arboretum or something is incorporated into the design of this course . . . It is pretty cool to see the old waterfall and fountain infrastructure from what looks to be an old arboretum or something.
6) Fun factor on this course is high, the short but tightly wooded holes are always fun and frustrating at the same time, but that is part of the fun!
7) Nice variety in foliage density on the course starting with some parklike holes, then a few in the dense woods, then it opens up into the Brazos River Flats and finishes right along the river.
8) Garbage cans available on this course to help try to keep the trash down.
9) Benches available in a few areas to sit down on a slow day.
10) It's always nice to get a chance to rip a roller or two . . . and this is the course where I feel I had a breakthrough on the technique so I will forever remember William Cameron Park in Waco Texas!!!
11) Bathrooms located in a couple places on the course and by the parking lot.
Cons: 1) Some of the concrete tees are cracked and could use some repouring. There also seemed to be a few with erosion around them which would be a safety issue. APPARENTLY THESE HAVE BEEN UPDATED SINCE I WAS THERE . . . I will remove and edit the review if I find out this is true.
2) Some of the baskets seem really old and perhaps have seen better days. APPARENTLY THESE HAVE BEEN UPDATED SINCE I WAS THERE . . . I will remove and edit the review if I find out this is true.
3) Lots of compaction issues around baskets and on the slopes which leaves the turf struggling to survive. This is not only an environmental issue but it also impacts the visual appearance of the course.
4) A few areas on the bottom 1/3rd of the course seem to hold a lot of water. I don't remember a storm rolling through before we were there but there were puddles all over the place on the flat part of the course.
5) Old signs seemed to be out of date and needing replacement. Distances were off and the hole #'s also seemed to be off in a couple places, so perhaps this will be updated too or it already has been.
6) Directionals taking you from a basket to the next tee could be helpful in 2 or 3 places on the course.
Other Thoughts: I am writing this review about 6 months after I played the course so if anything is off let me know and I will adjust my review and my rating if necessary. I took into consideration the changes I read about and it actually seemed to take away 2 of my biggest cons.
It is not a pretty course by any means . . . but it is a lot of fun. I enjoyed the challenge of the holes, the variety in how they challenge you, the different shots needed, as well as the disc selection for all of the holes. There are some cool spots on the course for sure and if they could revitalize the waterfall and pond area that would make this course one of the more picturesque courses played to date!
A little bit more maintenance and some correct signage and this is definitely a 4 disc rating from me.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Cameron Park 23 hole course
Pros: This course has just about any type of hole you'll ever see in Disc Golf. The First 14 holes are challenging. They range from uphill doglegs, to straight downhill thru tree canopy. There are narrow, wooded holes, and even nice open field holes. Then it really gets fun. 15-23 for the most part are wide open field holes. On 21 & 23 I can really work on distance as the holes are straight with minimal tree threat.
Cons: There are a few cons, but overall this is a great course. However:
1.) Many of the holes back the creek so if you overthrow, your roll could land you in some water.
2.) 22 can also land you in the water, running parallel with the Bravos River.
3.) Also, the park doesn't really trim......ever. They are going for the natural feel I guess, but its still a pain.
Besides that it's a good course with many different looks.
Other Thoughts: I feel when I become a regularly score par on this course, I can play well anywhere.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: This front 9 holes are great. They have a lot of elevation change and a few water hazards. The back 9 is a little more open if you like open shot more.
Cons: Last time I played it looked like they were moving some holes so the back 9 was tough finding tee boxes the matched up with holes. Old baskets and A LOT of people in the park in the summer. And the people seem to get mad when we asked them to watch out while we threw.
Other Thoughts: Good course overall, but I would rather just play the front 9 twice.
2 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
William Cameron Park
Pros: Great variety of shots. From uphill(#1,6,10,13) to downhill (#3,8,12,14). Heavily wooded (#3,6,7,8,9) to open (#15,17,19,20sb,23) and everything in between. A creek to the Brazos comes into play on holes #4,5,14,20lb and then the Brazos river itself can possibly snatch your disc on windy days for holes #16,19,22. The course seems to have some pretty good upkeep and none of the fairways are overgrown. It also seems that what trees ARE in the fairway would just ruin the hole if they were taken away. Last week the baskets for holes #14,15,16,22,23 were relocated to nearby locations. The best of which is the basket for #16, which was just a straight-ahead, there it is type of hole before. Now, it has been moved to directly between two big live oaks that are only a few feet apart, giving the hole something unique that it previously lacked.
My personal favorite hole at the park has to be Hole #8. That hole involves teeing off through a cluster of slender cedars, hoping to make it anywhere near the basket, (which is placed out of sight, to the left, and over a hill at the end of the fairway). Also, the bathrooms are located in very reasonable places in the course, (one in the parking lot for hole #1 and another by the playground at hole #19).
Cons: The signage for this course is unhelpful and as of the last time I went, there are only about 5 holes that actually have signs. At some points, the next box can be hard to find. This is most evident going from #4 to #5, which are a good distance apart, and isn't helped by the fact that the box for #5 can't be seen until you're right up on it. Holes #15-19 are all placed in and around a multi-use area (field, playground, picnic pavillion), which is filled with non-dgers on the weekend; most of which were in the fairways when I went last time. Hole #15 is the worst in that regard because the basket, as of last week, has been moved even closer to the center of the multi-use field. The relocation of basket 22 is kind of lame and the relocation of basket 23 is an atrocity. #22 was just moved closer to the box to make a more reasonable par 3. #23, (which WAS one of the best holes at the park; a neat little par 3 where you had to throw straight ahead and then curve off to the right and up a ten foot hill through lots of little trees and all kinds of thorny nastiness to get to the basket), is now a boring par 3 where you throw straight ahead in the open and try not to hit the people at the barbecue pit by which the basket is now located. No longer on the hill, no longer through the trees, just straight ahead and go get it.
Other Thoughts: Even with some of the recent negative changes, Cameron Park is still an overall awesome course to take on. Bringing a map is a must for any first visit. If you do happen to go on the weekend and do not like crowds and yelling "fore!" all of the time, Holes #15-19 can probably be skipped for a solid 18 holes at one of the most fun courses in the area. Overall, I would suggest going on a weekday to make sure you can play all 23 and enjoy everything Cameron Park has to offer.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Construction & Redesigns - Not the old Course You're used to.
Pros: The front nine is great to help practice your technical skills with elevation changes, and precarious pin locations. Being off by ten feet may mean a thirty foot uphill pitch. I like it when a 15 year old design can still challenge me to think and pick my lines carefully. If you on, birdies can come pretty easily, but if your off - watch out.
The back nine is flatter, longer, and offers a different overall look playing along the Brazos River. The concrete boxes are nice for big run ups and the park is well manicured. It's too bad you can only experience five of these great holes, (six if you want to make the trek to #17). Construction on the walkways should be ending soon, but expect it to be a while before things get back to normal.
There are also new holes, with fresh concrete tees (less than a day old at the time!), but you can't find them on the maps currently provided. After playing 4A - work your way across the road and into the woods to find these four holes. They are a little rough, but are a very nice addition, and will bring the grand total to 22 holes when all is said and done.
BEST HOLE/S: #1; #17
Cons: Three holes (#15, #16, and #18) are out of commission because of construction. #17 is there, but is now way out of the way without the other holes. Of the remaining old 14 holes, four of them (#3, #4, #5, and #7) don't have a basket, and instead have a large water jug on a post. It does the job, but is certainly a con.
Signage is also a real issue, since any sign still standing is severely dilapidated. Small 4x4 inch signs have been screwed into trees on certain holes of the front nine to help guide your way. Even with good signage, I still recommend playing with a local or having the map, because you will have some walks to make the back nine in different locations.
WORST HOLE/S: #12
Construction and redesigns - it's hard to gauge a course's true potential when it's in a state of flux. After reading over the discussion threads I found a nice post by Mike W. with progress: The way I understand it, there will be 22 holes so how about this: hole 1, 2, 3, 4(when it returns), 5(4a), 6(4b), 7(4c), 8(4d), 9(4e), 10(old 5, when it returns), 11(old 6), (old 7 is history), 12(old 13(old 9), 14(old 10), 15(old 11), 16(old 12), 17(old 13), 18(old 14), 19(old 15), 20(old 16), 21(old 17), 22(old 18).
Did you get all that? :)
So, obviously you have to take things with a grain of salt when you come out here. And although there looks to be a lot of improvements being made to the park, none of these are going to course. It is, as usual, a small group of people faithfully laying concrete boxes, replacing missing baskets with water jugs, and keeping the course going.
I enjoyed this course a lot, and appreciate when an old design can still offer difficulty to new technology. However, in its current state - it's no longer a destination location, and with the construction hindering the front nine of The Beast
, Woodway Park
is your best bet for a clean 18. This will be a course to enjoy coming out to in about six months or so, to see the final outcome and make a better judgment on its future.
10 of 10 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Cameron Park Rundown!!!
Pros: -Concrete pads
-Shot variety...spotty trees, down hills and ups, short and long
-Nice park..well kept up
-On the river so pretty scenic too
-Lots of ace runs
Cons: -Some of the boxes were kinda short
-I've heard it can get crowded on a nice day or in the late afternoon
-Some of the back nine does play through a picnic area and along a trail...watch out for park-goers and picnicers
Other Thoughts: Have only played this course once, though planning to revisity soon.
Great course with some of the craziest elevation changes I've seen. Not to difficult though, but will test your accuracy
Lots of ups and downs with regards to big elevation changes. Creek does come in to play on a few holes. More of the wooded half of the course.
Plays through open fields pretty much, with spotty trees. The Brazos River does hug the right side of this nine so watch those discs pulled toward the water.
All-in-all this is a really great course. Not to challenging and super fun. Will be making a disc golf road trip to Waco here soon, and this course will be played again.
Worth a drive.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: nice baskets, concrete tees (some are a little short though), fun holes. lots of elevation changes on the front nine. nice, clean park. has a playground with water fountain/cannon/shower thingies that you can cool off in during the summer.
Cons: signage is terrible. not difficult to navigate but the signs aren't much more than a number next to the teebox. no map, barely shows placement of pin, etc. construction going on in parts of the park and currently 5 baskets are missing: 4,5,7,16,18. the first 3 are playable, basket is just not there. on 16, the basket is inside a fenced off area under construction. all of 18 (tee, fairway and basket) is also inside said area.
Other Thoughts: fun course. the front 9 has many elevation changes and mostly shorter holes. the back 9 is mostly flat with a few longer holes but nothing too long. only a couple real long ones and a few of those are under construction in the back 9.
once the construction is finished this will be a great course. needs new signs though.
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6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
I heart Cameron
Pros: I love this park for many reasons! This is a great course that has tons of different shots all over the place. There are your big boomers where you can air it out and then there are places where you have to hit your line or its a disaster! The terrain is great and the grass is always well taken care of for those who like to roll and for those who like skip shots. The park is always clean for the most part too. I think that this course is a good blend for the newer players and for the more pro/adv player and it makes it fun for all. The elevation is used well here just as it has been used everywhere else in Waco. The baskets are good and there are good concrete teepads and sometimes 2 on some of the holes. The course flows very well and is easy to follow. Makes for a great day of golf with the other 2 courses in town! Lots of shade which helps on a hotter day.
Cons: The signage sucks for the most part. Where there are signs they are just screwed into a nearby tree and they are just numbers, no pic or anything like that. The water on 9 is pretty nasty. Parking can be an issue but with construction taking place that doesnt seem like it will be a problem.
Other Thoughts: Hole 9 is super sweet and can either put a smile on your face or make you cry when it lands in the nasty water behind it. Play this and the "bEast" during the hot of the day and dont forget Woodway early or late. And dont forget to test your arm out and try to cross the Brazos. Many holes are missing now due to construction.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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