Came from really good to awesome!
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Pros: -I played Victor Ashe in the Knoxville Ice Bowl (very terribly!). The TD said that with these fundraisers set up, they were available to add dual pin positions on every hole, and three on a few! It's somewhat challenging on the short pins because most holes either have some odd shaped fairway, a few bad trees, and the others (most of them) are medium length par 3s.
-Starts off interesting with a water carry. You can't throw straight; you have to throw some sort of hyzer to get down there. Hole 1 is very difficult for a 270' footer; the 355' position may seem more forgiving because it is to the right where you won't have to face as many trees. And holes 5 and 17 are both holes you have to love! Hole 5 is a huge downhill bomb in the long pin and it's still pretty long in the short, but the elevation takes a lot of the length away. #17 is a huge hyzer bomb. The short pin is a 439' par 3 and the long is back a little but it is a par 4.
-If you only have time for one round, I would play #1's short pin, #2's short pin (the prodigy basket), #3's medium or long (1000') pin, #4-#10 in the regular or long, #11 short, #12 long, #13 short, #14 medium, #15 long, #16-#18 in either pin. That would be the funnest way to play this course. Those long pins may be more difficult to score low on; but they are more forgiving than the short pins.
-My favorite hole in #12. Especially in the medium pin. It's 520' and downhill (at least 35'). The medium pin and long pin are both par 4's. The medium pin give me an eagle opportunity since it plays like 415'. The long pin is a true par 4 that is like 660' and on the land across the road. Still a straightforward 4, and good chance for 3, but it's tougher.
-Since most of it is open, it's good practice for your long distance. The longest pin on #3 is nearly an outlier on the hole length avg. here of around 450' on the long pins, but since it's wide open and downhill, it's a good practice hole.
-Course has new and improved tee signs. For instance, they look cooler and they give the actual par description. I've heard that the old ones said that every position was a par 3, when there are par 4's and 5's here.
-Some of the new pins have awesome placements! Hole 9 in the medium pin is tucked into the woods surrounded by small rocks. #14 is an awesome "low ceiling" shot that still allows a big drive. #15 is a fun open bomb where the basket is tucked into the woods. I already mentioned a few others and they are awesome as well.
Cons: -Lots of tweener holes in the short pins. For instance, #7. It's dead straight and like 420' but the risk in going for the 2 is so high to the point where you could potentially look at a 6 or 7. The woods are extremely dense to where you are going to lose a stroke just pitching out. Especially if it is windy. The long pin is very close to the short and it's a par 4. I usually think holes around 400' are par 3's, but not if there is high risk. I took a 6 on it first round, and a 3 the second round. Nobody else on my Advanced took a 3. Same with #17. The long is just 45' past the short and a little bit more left. The long pin is a par 4. Not saying #17 can't be 2'd, but it would require a ridiculous hyzer crush.
-#18 is a bummer of a finish. I think. You might love it if you prefer wooded holes. But chances are you won't. It's 256' in the short and the split fairways are extremely tight to where it feels like a par 4. The distance doesn't match up with the fairway. Just an annoying hole. The long pin is still a 3 but the difference is that it is straighter and doesn't require a very impressive flick just to par it.
-It's very tough to navigate before you get to hole 7. The walk to 4 is confusing if you don't play the monster hole; and if you do, the first basket you'll see is the long pin for hole 5. Walk toward that pin and up the hill to the right and you find #4's teepad. The walk from 5 to 6 is also confusing. Follow the trail to the left of #5's basket and take a right. Nothing too bad but could use next tee signs.
Other Thoughts: -Now that I live in Cullowhee, I don't get to play courses like this one very often. The golf up there just isn't great. Wish courses like Victor Ashe were closer to me. The elevation and multiple pins are what really made me enjoy this course. I've seen a few negative reviews; if you didn't like this course in the past, I would encourage you to play it again to the long pins because you're far more likely to like the long layout better. I only played the shorts and they had some great holes. But I really wish we played a round from the longs. I would've played much better if we did.
-Favorite Hole: #12. Long downhill open bomb that plays over a tree at the bottom of a hill.
-Least favorite: #18. It's no bueno. Very frustrating finisher that nearly plays as pinball.
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Good Old Rocky Top
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Pros: The first hole is a masterpiece over water downhill that requires some luck to get through to the green and I parked it. The course is also a masterpiece of design and great beauty from hole 7 through the finish, featuring a lot of well placed mature trees on the more long and open holes, and ragged and tightly packed woods on some of the slightly shorter holes.
Cons: The second through sixth holes are fairly open and far too long. The older or advanced player will simply have two long throws to the basket and hope the second one is parked for par. Otherwise it will be a lot of bogies. Much of the course for the next few holes is also simply far too long for the average player, but the design is great.
There is too much crossover with other park users on holes 1-6, though it is fairly secluded after that.
It's very difficult to follow for the first six holes. There are a couple of long walks between holes and direction is uncertain. There is almost no way to know where to go after hole 6, as the tee for something like #15 is in direct view and you end up wondering where the hell the next 8 holes went. After you find #7 it is fairly easy to follow.
This signage wasn't bad but wasn't great.
Other Thoughts: It's truly a beautiful park.
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Pros: V.A. is a nice big course. It has plenty of room to stretch out the long throws. There are a few precision placements that are needed. The rough is managed well and it's pretty hard to loose a disc in this stuff. Most shots are apparent and course layout is smooth. The course lends itself to a Pro format well with the long positions and has plenty of advantages for higher skill level players with different shot types. If you've got a roller, thumber, tomahawk, flick, and distance, you'll crush it.
Cons: It has a bunch of people in the way. The park itself is just busy with non-golfers. The hole layout can be kinda boring as far as intermediate play goes. The average player will throw a lot of the same shots over and over again and probably shoot around par with maybe a few birdie opportunities. I feel that by moving some of the distances either way would make for more varied scores. There were just a lot of 3.5 holes that made for a bunch of pars.
Other Thoughts: I'll be playing this course plenty more times. It is a good course. It should make me have a bigger arm and strive for some of the longer par 3's. It's probably wise to play during the week when less people are at the park.
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Set on the rolling hills of TN
Pros: Long open fairways.
Challenges you to become a greater player
Cons: Muddy certain times a year
Pedestrians walking through course
Needs more regular maintenance
Other Thoughts: Love this course, makes me want to play it every day
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2014 disc adventure
Pros: Well maintained so it's easy to find your disc. Great beginner course. I shot a 47 my first and only outing.
Cons: A lot of wide open shots with minimal difficulty. Finding hole 4 and hole 15 was kinda difficult.
Other Thoughts: Over flowing trash cans. And a few missing tee signs.
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Just 5 min off I-75
Pros: Nice course in a pleasant, well maintained park in a nice neighborhood... others have mentioned overflowing trash cans, but it was spotless when I visited.
•Variety: Fairways are predominantly open and sparsely treed. Except for the moderately wooded final hole, the first 17 play lightly wooded, and don't require that much accuracy off the tee. Most pins are out in the open, but positioned so you'll have to work around a tree (or island of trees) on your approach to set up a putt, with a few pins nicely tucked away or well-guarded by stands of trees. Moderately rolling terrain comes into play on about half the holes, but not quite as often on putts and approaches. This combination of attributes allows for several lines to the pin off most tees, but seldom actually requires any specific routes. Nice mix of distances especially playing to the long pins. I wouldn't describe it as a bomber course, but it favors distance more than placement on all but a few holes.
• Equipment: Everything was generally in good condition. Spacious concrete tees were fairly grippy when wet. Yellow Innovas were easy to spot - long PVC poles enhance visibility on blind placements. Tee signs let you know when you've arrived. Map doesn't quite seem to scale, but getting around without it would be a bear.
• Aesthetics: Rolling hills dotted with trees are pleasing to the eye - still fairly green even in the winter. Several tees are bordered with landscaping stones at the back - provides a nice touch and helps keep sand from washing down onto the tees.
• Memorable holes: Starts with a nice water carry playing to a green ensconced by trees ready slap you down, denying your "would-be" park job...with a possible roll into the drink for a circle 4. Big arms will especially like holes 3 and 15 to the long pins, and 5 and 17 seemed particularly fun.
•Well suited to beginners (except for hole 1) and intermediate players, but probably not good for creating scoring separation among advanced players - although I think many will enjoy playing this course.
• Easy to play abbreviated rounds: play 1-5 + 15-18 = 9 holes... just don't walk to the far side of the park and skip holes 6-14.
• Too forgiving of grip-lock and early release off the tee. I'm used to ending up in the bushes on shots like that and simply think many of the holes here make a par saving 2nd shot too easy.
• No feasible way for players who throw less than 250'or so to play hole 1. Most good water carries have some sort of bail-out route where short arms can still play if they concede a stroke or 2. The Alt Tee on the map looks like it would suffice, but I couldn't find it when I walked around to putt out. I suppose the designers simply thought this was too good a hole not to incorporate - I liked it but some will simply have to skip it.
• Navigation: JUST PRINT THE MAP!
Like many open layouts, navigation can be an issue and it's not always clear what pin you're throwing to. Course flow is more an oddity than an actual problem: holes 1-5 play through one section, then there's a decent walk to the "back of the park" where you'll find holes 6-14. To get to 15, you come back towards the section you started in. moving towards the parking lot. Really not bad once you get the hang of it, but it's certainly not intuitive.
• Two pins in the ground at the same time is nice for variety, but makes figuring out where to throw that much tougher - swear I saw 3 pins that all looked like they could be in play from certain tees.
• The biggest obstacle on many of the holes near the back of the park (holes 6-14) is the wide spread of long reaching, low-hanging branches which fill shooting lanes. But I only see these as being difficult for relatively inexperienced players: big arms can throw spike hyzers over the trees while placement players can typically hit the gaps (which aren't all that tight). That said, things could be tougher with spring/summer foliage filled in.
Other Thoughts: One of the better open courses I've played, Victor Ashe is more fun than frustrating - likely why it's so popular. Course pix and overhead maps show plenty of trees, but the reality is the most heavily wooded holes on this course play on the perimeter of the woods (rather than playing through the woods), resulting in more forgiving fairways. You can often go fairly wide to one side to safely avoid trouble on the other.
Combinations of long/short pin placements to accommodate skill levels and make it a course you can play repeatedly and still find interesting. Plays like an entirely different course depending on whether you play to shorts or longs.
Literally a few minutes off I-75: easy to get to and worth a visit for course baggers. Not for those who like tight and technical, but if you enjoy a course that gives you a chance to air it out a bit, Victor Ashe is worth a visit. Even though I favor more technical courses VA's long pin placements, fun factor, and neat water carry bump a course that's "good" on paper to "very good" with discs in hand.
Playing on a Thursday? Then head to Puleo's Grille (about 3 miles from the course) for the weekly special: a quality burger & fries for $5... you'll be happy you did. This is not greasy fast food - it's a decent restaurant your wife would be happy to sit down at.
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Good Golf, But Needs Improvement
Pros: -Good golf. Challenging holes with good length and a decent mix of wooded and non-wooded holes.
-Completing the course requires a variety of shots. Not just throwing hyzers all day.
-The roughs are generally not too bad. While they can be tough to get into, they are relatively easy to navigate underneath the "canopy".
Cons: -Navigating the course is terrible. While I'm sure it is easy for locals, if you're playing for the first time it can be pretty frustrating.
-This course needs to be better maintained. The grass was definitely too long when I played.
-Garbage cans were literally overflowing.
-I absolutely hate having two baskets in the ground at the same time at the same hole. If you want to play the longs, you may accidentally play to the shorts thinking that is the position.
Other Thoughts: There is a gem in this course. A little elbow grease and some better coordination and commitment from the parks department this can be a fantastic course. I did not see any next tee markers. Going from 5 to 6 is completely illogical and needs to be marked. Getting from 3 to 4 isn't immediately obvious either. Next tee markers combined with some signage can fix this. I'd also prefer to see a second set of 'short' tees at all the holes instead of multiple baskets for a few of them.
This course easily has a 4 or 4.5 rating in it, just needs a bit of work.
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My personal favorite, home course.
Pros: I might be slightly biased since this is my home course, but this is my personal favorite of the courses I've played.
-Decent mix of long and short holes. shortest being around 250 and longest around 500 (not counting the ultra long tee on three)
-Lots of changes in elevation, but nothing too extreme.
-Good mix of open and technical holes.
-Tough enough to challenge experienced players, but still fun for newbies.
-Tee signs on every hole, benches and trash cans on some.
-Holes 3, 5, 12, and 17 offer some great views.
-Hole one is a tough one. Fairly short hole, but the middle ~150 feet the hole is over the so called "Lake VA." Wouldn't be too bad to get over with the exception of trees on both sides. This hole is a disc eater.
-Hole two has a couple of really nice pin positions, one about 400 dead straight, with a couple trees on either side of the fairway. Second is a hard right hook around some dense, dense brush, about 450ish away from the pad. You can either play it safe and throw a forehand/anny around the brush and have a nice second shot to get into putting position, or try your luck through the brush (there's an opening, but it's tight), and if your drive is good enough you could be in position for a long putt for eagle.
-Three is probably my favorite hole on the course. It has three pin positions, two of them about 350-380 out from the pad, and one ultra super long 1000 footer. The first two can be pretty easily birdied with a nice drive, but the long pin is technically a "par three." If You can get your drive to the top of the hill (~450 feet), you get yourself in position for a 550 foot approach down one long, beautiful hill. Definitely not a pin for a weak arm. Also, within the next week the extra long basket for hole five is being moved into the 1000 foot spot on three for good.
-Hole four is a medium distance uphill blind shot. Two pin positions, one on the near edge of the hill, the other near the hole three tee. Nothing too remarkable about this hole, challenging but fun.
-Hole five is a semi-long downhill shot with two basket placements. First is a blind shot straight downhill, pretty easy birdie if you can get your drive over the final crest of the hill. Second is slightly farther and to the left of the pad, visible from the pad, backed by some thick brush. Nothing too crazy, just needs a long drive.
-Hole six is deceivingly difficult to birdie. Long open fairway directly in front of the pad, pin to the left under some trees. The trees around and in front of the basket love to knock down good drives, making for some challenging approaches/putts. Second basket is a bit further, and straight ahead of the pad, but still surrounded by trees.
-Hole seven is a pretty long one, about 430 dead ahead for one basket placement, second is about the same distance but hidden to the right behind some bushes. About 250 feet down the fairway are two trees that seem to knock down any and every disc thrown their way, but if you can get your drive past them a birdie isn't out of the question. Birdie on the second basket placement isn't out of the question either, but the placement definitely makes it difficult. One of the more frustrating holes at this course.
-Hole eight is a ~325 foot (ish?) shot, slightly down hill over a fairway dotted with trees. A nice straight drive can get you reasonably close to the basket, but the trees make it tough. Several lines to both basket placements.
-Hole nine come right back up past eight, slightly uphill. First pin is about 270ish, slightly to the right, very easy. Second pin is about 150 feet back and over a hill, surrounded by rocks and trees. Very pretty hole placement, but definitely a difficult hole to birdie, even as a par 4.
-Hole 10 is really straightforward, about 350 feet straight ahead, slightly downhill. One tree just to the right of the pad that can very easily make you bungle a drive, and another smaller tree about 50 feet in front of the basket. Easy hole.
-Hole eleven is fairly short, uphill. Trees on the right side of the fairway take a big hyzer shot out of the equation. Best bet (for me at least) is to hyzer flip a fairway driver up and let it land on the right side of the hole. Not too difficult, but can quickly ruin your score if you throw a bad drive down the hill.
-Hole 12 is a fun one. About 380 feet out and down a big hill, with a thick, thick treeline about 70 feet in front of the short tee. Trees on either side of the fairway at the start give you limited options, but once you get down past those you have numerous options to get to the hole. Par 4, and pretty easy to birdie. Second pin positions is back about 200 feet and to the right, and out in the open. Not a super tough placement, just requires a big arm to get up to it.
-Hole 13 is one of the shorter, more technical holes on the course. The first pin placement is down a tunnel of trees about 250 straight down and slightly to the right of the basket. You have two options on this pin; down the tunnel or around it. Either way is going to make for a fairly easy hole. The second pin is about 50 feet behind the first, across the same line of trees from the previous hole. Only one option on this pin, down to the left of the tunnel and through the break in the tree line. Tough pin.
-Hole 14 is a long, open shot that's pretty much flat. Big line of trees on the left side of the fairway, and a few on the right to keep you honest. First basket placement is up at the end of the tree line on the left, second is under the trees dead ahead. Big arm players shouldn't have much trouble birdie-ing this one, I personally usually take a 3.
-Hole 15 short pin is the shortest hole on the course, 250ish feet dead ahead. Big tree/bush line on the left side of the fairway, 5 evenly spaced small trees separating this and hole 17 on the right. Probably the easiest birdie hole on the course.
-Sixteen is a hair longer than fifteen, sitting right around 260-270. Tight fairway with a lot of bushes/trees on either side, basket is ever so slightly up hill and a tad bit to the right. I like to throw a thumber on this one and have it land near the basket/just behind it on the hill.
-Hole seventeen is a long (440) downhill par 4, with a tree/bush lined left side of the fairway, and those same trees from 15 on the right. A strong armed player wouldn't have too much trouble eagleing this one with an accurate drive, but most players are looking at a drive, an ~100 foot approach, and a putt.
-Hole eighteen is about 300 uphill, through about 15 different trees across the fairway. A birdie on this hole would require a very very accurate drive, since the basket is unapproachable except for one open section thats about 10 feet across.
Cons: -Grass doesn't get mowed as often as I'd like, so at some times you'll spend some time searching for discs.
-Woods on 2, 7-9, and 12-18 are extremely thick, so if you make a bad shot you're gonna have a rough time searching.
-Some tee signs and benches have been graffiti'd/broken, but signs are still readable.
-The path from 5->6 isn't marked, so your first time you might have trouble, but it's fairly easy to figure out.
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Pros: love this course is the best one I've ever played so far only been playing for a few months but it is really fun the flow could be a little better but overall it was an awesome course
Cons: my only problem is this course is all the way Knoxville at talking two hour drive so wish I lived closer
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Beautiful Open Course
Pros: Beautiful and well maintianed course. Open with many good drives. Has some good landscape. Concrete pads. Easier holes and challenging holes. Signage is pretty good.
Cons: Busier course. Hard to navigate 1st time. 1st hole has a huge water hazard. Maps show 2 pins on all holes, only some have multiple pins.
Other Thoughts: This is a good course to work on many skills, It's definitely worth playing.
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