[Innova] Aviar p&a

I've been on the Omega train for 20 years now. My favorites are light weight 2 ring San Marino in Sirius plastic. In the bag is a well seasoned 150g. It will hyzer-flip dead straight and also gives a nice late turn. With a bit of finesse you can get some ending fade as well.
I have a 168g 1.16 Supersoft that is my favorite disc ever. Crazy controllable and floaty. I can throw it hard and get a lazerbeam flight with some late turn. I need to pick up more of them around the same run, but they're getting harder to find.
 
I have a 168g 1.16 Supersoft that is my favorite disc ever. Crazy controllable and floaty. I can throw it hard and get a lazerbeam flight with some late turn. I need to pick up more of them around the same run, but they're getting harder to find.
Stiffer Omega AP's are also really nice as are the quantum. 2 ring San Marino are hard to come by these days but the newer mold is still a micro-beaded aviar p&a.
 
I feel like this was asked on the Omega thread, but I'll try to not deviate too far from Aviars: the new Omega SS plastic feels like bad R-pro, very different than the textured plastic or even the runs from about 10yrs ago (the stamp before the current one). I'm curious about trying a P&A in the new soft pro plastic.
 
Seems like the Millennium chat has subsided, back to the P&A talk (does that tiny bead really make a difference?) I recently went back to my Aviars after a year with Pilots. This mold really fits my hand and my putt like nothing else. I get better speed and spin with less effort, little to no flutter, and that glide for days! I tried the KC Pro (big bead) version this month but we didn't really click for putting. I also fondled some Omegas but the softness/ tackiness of the plastic didn't seem right to me. Finding I prefer a stiffer plastic for putting.

I helped my boys with their Christmas shopping today and I have 2 Classic Aviars and 2 40 year P&A's in galactic pro on the way to go under the tree (along with two color glow drivers scored on Infinite's sale). Anyone have experience with or know if the 40 years are in stiff KC type pro? My one DX and 2 DX color glows from 2023 will move to practice and throwing duty, bringing the collection to 7. In the future I will probably snag a handful of DX F2's for the practice bucket / future throwers.
 
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In my experience; yes the bead does make a difference. My old light-ish weight super soft Omega still has more HSS than my equally beat up max weight r-pro Aviar P&A. I believe the 40th anniversary ones are KC plastic. Maybe just my very small sample size, but it felt pretty similar to standard KC: slick.

I used to throw and putt Pilots back in the day. Very good mold, I like the way the premium plastic molds up and feels in the hand. But they're not quite as much of a finesse mold as the Aviars are. They're in the driving putter borderline-midrange category for me, whereas Aviars and Omegas are squarely in the putter category. I get the application of driving putters and I like throwing them, but I much prefer the more traditional feel and flight.
 
30-ish year putter journey:
  • Start playing disc golf, get Aviar PandA's.
  • Decide you need the big boy Aviar, switch to Big Bead Aviar.
  • KC Pro plastic come out, throw KC Pro Aviars.
  • Wizards come out, goodbye Aviar.
  • Get old, loose arm speed. Switch to beadless Warlocks.
  • Get even older, hit the basket attachment 8 out of 10 putts.
  • Realize Aviars don't drop as much, get Aviar PandA's.
  • Wonder WTF I was thinking when I switched in the first place.
 
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