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biscoe
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There would have been a number of them all at once. I believe it was everyone over the cash line at one worlds or another (Cincinatti maybe?). Chuck will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong.
You're pretty close. I found an interview with Chuck from 4 years ago, and it was the average of the top 100 player scores from 1998 Worlds.
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What was the average of the top 100 scores?
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Looking at the 98 World's results and the first ratings don't quite add up. The ratings jump around the place.
Stokely was 2nd and rating was 1012
Randolph was 4th and rating was 1014
Moser was 6th and rating was 1016
Stokely was 2nd and rating was 1012
Randolph was 4th and rating was 1014
Moser was 6th and rating was 1016
biscoe
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Where are you getting that? Stokely's rounds average 1021, Randolph's 1010, and Moser's 1006. Edit- oh I see, what you are looking at includes stuff other than just that Worlds (Moser has 29 rounds included).
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So the first rated rounds actually started couple months before Worlds, end of May.
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here's some dg history: Disc Golf Throughout History
Cgkdisc
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Here are the top rated players based on their ratings produced from the 1998 Worlds. Players in Red type were Master aged (35+) at the time and in Green (45+).
The average of the best 100 scores of 100 different players on each course determined its 1000 rated score. Oxford=50.08, Mt Airy=53.14, Cabin Creek=49.14, Rapid Run=49.10. Then all players rounds were rated based on these values to determine their Worlds rating.
We used these 1998 Worlds ratings to determine course and player ratings for several big events prior to Worlds when there were enough of these initial propagators playing in them to do retroactive calculations on the assumption their ratings were stable on average over that time period. That's why you'll see ratings at some events prior to 1998 Worlds.
The average of the best 100 scores of 100 different players on each course determined its 1000 rated score. Oxford=50.08, Mt Airy=53.14, Cabin Creek=49.14, Rapid Run=49.10. Then all players rounds were rated based on these values to determine their Worlds rating.
We used these 1998 Worlds ratings to determine course and player ratings for several big events prior to Worlds when there were enough of these initial propagators playing in them to do retroactive calculations on the assumption their ratings were stable on average over that time period. That's why you'll see ratings at some events prior to 1998 Worlds.
So, technically I guess you could say that Brad Hammock was the first 1000 rated player; considering that there were also folks above him. It might be more exact to say that when ratings were established, Climo was the highest rated player.
I'm working on a disc golf trivia game, so getting these things correct up front will prevent me from making embarrassing corrections later
Cgkdisc
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Note that Jim Myers also started at 1000.
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Disc golf trivia game?? Interested!! That should have its own thread where people can suggest questions and verify answers.
Right, I should make a distinction between professional and amateur.
Cgkdisc
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Yes, only pros on that chart. No Ams had ratings over 999 for several years (but you'll have to find the first one
)I have definitely been tempted to ask for help, but would that spoil the opportunity to play the game if you already know the answers? Or does that just make it easier to crush your opponents?
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TBH, I think I'd already know quite a lot of the answers so might as well put the knowledge to use.
DannyS
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There were also a handful of us that entered in a crap-ton of tournament results from around the country at that time to help generate the first ratings. We were working with Theo Pozzy who was working with Chuck and whoever else was developing the rating system. I still have my PDGA Ace Club disc hanging on my wall that I was awarded that year for all of the volunteer hours I spent entering scores and course data.
Cgkdisc
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Much of that volunteer old event data entry was done from 2000 through 2002 to prepare for full implementation of the ratings as a PDGA benefit and being used to officially define some division rating breaks starting in 2003.
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