For those of you struggling with the One Leg Drill

[azplaya25]

I forever have struggled with getting up on my front leg and throwing. I'll focus on it for a while, move on to other things, then watch video and realize I've gone back to throwing off my rear leg.

Im not sure if I ever realized what it should feel like, until I discovered this little nugget in the swivel stairs video:

About 4:35, SW says this is what one leg drill should feel like. It felt different than what I though the one leg drill should feel like.

If you are struggling with the feel of throwing with all of your weight on the front leg, I'd highly recommend giving this a try:



https://youtu.be/gJlX0ht0gyE

 

[timothy42b]

I was just thinking about that OLD. I ended up not playing for a couple weeks and when I got back to the course I couldn't get onto the front leg. I shot my worst score ever.

So here's my question: Is the OLD still valid in its current version? the Youtube is dated 2016 but the video says 2011 when it opens. I'm sure sidewinder has done a lot of thinking and research in the past 10 years. Would he tweak the positions in that video at all? Time to issue a new one, or explain the old one a bit differently?

PS I actually throw from one leg a lot on the course. I wouldn't have to if I could stay in the fairway, but.......unfortunately..............

 

[azplaya25]

I was just thinking about that OLD. I ended up not playing for a couple weeks and when I got back to the course I couldn't get onto the front leg. I shot my worst score ever.

So here's my question: Is the OLD still valid in its current version? the Youtube is dated 2016 but the video says 2011 when it opens. I'm sure sidewinder has done a lot of thinking and research in the past 10 years. Would he tweak the positions in that video at all? Time to issue a new one, or explain the old one a bit differently?

PS I actually throw from one leg a lot on the course. I wouldn't have to if I could stay in the fairway, but.......unfortunately..............

I mean if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Every time I watch that OLD video, I pick up something else or remember something else I had forgotten about. I hope he doesn't remake it cause I still haven't mastered everything from the first one

 

[timothy42b]

I mean if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Every time I watch that OLD video, I pick up something else or remember something else I had forgotten about. I hope he doesn't remake it cause I still haven't mastered everything from the first one

I haven't either.

But I've been here 4 or 5 years now, and some thinking has changed or is at least being presented differently.

Back then we didn't talk wide narrow wide nor did we think the hit point was in front of the chest at 9 or 10 o'clock. We still talked right pec drill though some had different opinions. We didn't have the force plate data and sidewinder hadn't shared as many of those videos from other sports.

Hate to bring up other sources, but BW's More Snap drill talked about puling in a line without rotation, totally opposite from what he does now over on FB with the S&T crowd.

Sidewinder's OLD looks pretty basic to me but like I said it's 10 years old. Would he present it the same today?

 

[lostDoughnut]

i have been watching other peoples form reviews as usually the same issue is brought up and sometimes a different description of the issue is presented

thread location below(note how they are working on standstills):

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131754&page=23

takes us to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GICTAzPLlg

 

[azplaya25]

I haven't either.

But I've been here 4 or 5 years now, and some thinking has changed or is at least being presented differently.

Back then we didn't talk wide narrow wide nor did we think the hit point was in front of the chest at 9 or 10 o'clock. We still talked right pec drill though some had different opinions. We didn't have the force plate data and sidewinder hadn't shared as many of those videos from other sports.

Hate to bring up other sources, but BW's More Snap drill talked about puling in a line without rotation, totally opposite from what he does now over on FB with the S&T crowd.

Sidewinder's OLD looks pretty basic to me but like I said it's 10 years old. Would he present it the same today?

Gotcha, and yeah you have definitely been here longer than I have. I try to avoid getting into the force plate stuff or anything besides the basics. It's easy to go down rabbit holes and over complicate things with all the info out there. I think BW is a perfect example of this - he was onto something with the more snap stuff, then went a totally different direction, and now just talks in circles and over complicates everything.

Somewhere SW22 posted that the swing is really simple, it's just a one arm hammer throw. Our brains over complicate it. So that's all I've been focused on for a few months now. The picture I attached from the slow plastic thread really shows how simple it is. You see that finish position where the hammer is out wide and he's up on one leg - that's the one leg drill, just getting a feel for throwing from that position.

 

[azplaya25]

Just realized something else. The fact that I hadn't felt that standing on one leg on the stairs position also means that I've been starting in the wrong position. Should be starting and finishing there in the old

 

[sidewinder22]

I haven't either.

But I've been here 4 or 5 years now, and some thinking has changed or is at least being presented differently.

Back then we didn't talk wide narrow wide nor did we think the hit point was in front of the chest at 9 or 10 o'clock. We still talked right pec drill though some had different opinions. We didn't have the force plate data and sidewinder hadn't shared as many of those videos from other sports.

Hate to bring up other sources, but BW's More Snap drill talked about puling in a line without rotation, totally opposite from what he does now over on FB with the S&T crowd.

Sidewinder's OLD looks pretty basic to me but like I said it's 10 years old. Would he present it the same today?

The footage of me doing One Leg Drill was from 2011, I did the video in 2016 so the info in it is only 5/6 years old and we have talked about wide rails since way back in DGR days, it was originally the Beto Wide Rail and we talked a lot about Doss and Schultz, and I mention it in Power of Posture from 2014 and the Wall Drill is an obvious wide release drill except for maybe the camera angle doesn't show it well, and if you actually use a hammer and hit the head flush to something like I talk about in Reciprocating Dingle Arm you would be wide out to around 10' clock and not trying to hit at 12 swiping across the nail head - IMO giving you the task of hitting the nail flush is much superior to saying the hit or release is at 10(which will actually vary). I've thought about doing an update or part 2 sometimes when I see some people miserably fail on it, but most of the info is already in the vid and I have other stuff that compliment OLD like Swivel Stairs and Elephant Walk and Turbo Encabulator is the kind of the part 2 or progression from OLD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1pkfJtVq-8#t=2m40s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyD1ynQrh4#t=3m26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5xfv9jPqZs#t=8m26s

 

[timothy42b]

Did not mean to offend! and yes the hammer hitting flush is more understandable to me than the idea of choosing a clock position where release happens.

I do think the understanding of the swing has advanced considerably through the discussion here over the time I've been here.

 

[sidewinder22]

I think a lot of the advancement in understanding seems to validate a lot of the older drills.

I found it a little funny they called these step drills "cutting edge", I think they go way back to the old days.