Form advice!!!
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You are leading your stride with your upper body/spine tipped over, so you are never really loading your shoulder back into the rear leg like Door Frame and Loading the Bow Arrow Drills. Need to change your spine tilt hinging into the rear hip.
Thanks for your response seabas I appreciate it! Would I'd safe to say doing what I'm doing is causing me to stay on my back leg for too long? I feel like I should be getting off my back leg sooner. Naturally this would be throwing me off balance as well would that be correct to say?
So after drilling doorframe drill and loading the bow for a bit I finally went out to hit some field work. I noticed I'm shrugging my shoulder a bit anything else you might notice sidewinder? Does this look any better?
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Bring your shoulder further forward over your hip closed like a battering ram or shoveling snow/dirt.
I think in door frame drill your hand is a little to low. Everything should drop down a little at first when you release your hand.
I think in door frame drill your hand is a little to low. Everything should drop down a little at first when you release your hand.
Gotcha will work on this! Should I be extending my plant leg out further some? Do the things you originally mentioned look better in terms of leading with the upperbody? I appreciate your help man
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Width of stance has more to do with how much you tilt or hinge back into rear hip and speed, rather than extending front leg out.
Looks much better, just keep playing around with it.
Looks much better, just keep playing around with it.
Do you mean bring the shoulder forward as in pink line or blue line?
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Gotcha after looking at that simon video and a few Will Schusterick slomos I see they are leading the throwing shoulder underneath the trail shoulder laterally in an arc (Shoveling snow/dirt) I understand the motion but I notice even if the shoulders follow this motion I'm sometimes not able to get the lead shoulder slightly ahead of the lead hip doing dry swings at home. Could this be due to not being properly balanced with the spine between the legs/hips? I think a large portion of the issue with the shrug was shoulder path but also I was pulling the disc with the arm which after reading around on here is a no no and I definitely feel the difference thinking about leading with the throwing shoulder as opposed to pulling on the disc. Elbow is coming down now like the first image you posted of simon and the disc path looks alot cleaner and the shrug is miles better just wanna make sure I'm drilling things correct. I think you were correct also on being reach too low on the door frame as well.
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Been trying to work on the lead shoulder shrug and getting that shoulder over the lead hip more. I feel like from the looks of it I might be standing up outta my posture early but overall I feel like the shrug looks better curious as to what you think of the shoulders or if you see anything else I can dial. stable fairways were flying 370ft with a few 450ft shots with my pharaohs wave and destroyer.
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Yeah, you look very upright(or maybe stiff) during the throw, but also looks like your chest/shoulders are open to target before you start extending elbow from power pocket, and power pocket is shallow/left pec. Bring your shoulder forward still closed to target in power pocket, then extend/swing thru.
Pay attention to timestamp at end closed shoulder.
Pay attention to timestamp at end closed shoulder.
Yeah definitely looks like I'm opening up into extension looking at it again. I think I'm really focusing on the shoulder path and kinda being too active with them/not driving the elbow to beat them. Kinda same with the spine posture first time looking at it I noticed immediately I looked too extended ..sigh* thanks brother I appreciate you taking a look.
Question and maybe you've touched base on this in one of your videos but the down into plant and staying down with the posture of the upperbody is what keeps the shoulder leading underneath the trail shoulder forward? In other words I guess I'm saying don't come up out of my forward bend toe side standing up until I'm going into follow through after the disc is out of the hand?
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You will be coming up out of into the finish. Do some vertical windmills and figure 8s, body should pump it around and get out of the way of the swing. Don't try to maintain static angles or stay down. Be dynamic.
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So I've been working on the shoulder motion and playing with my spine tip but something I've really noticed that has changed the game for my swing and how I think about it is swinging a hammer how you explain in your power of posture video. I notice instead of just thinking of bracing my leg in the swing using the hammer I have to brace my WHOLE body against my swing and I'm realizing how important this is to get that "10 oclock" hit point! I've never been able to get the disc out this early in the extension and realize I've been assisting the swing with opening the shoulders which I'm realizing is very slow. Wasnt really focusing on much other than "bracing my body against my swing" but curious on what you think about these 2 throws.Do some vertical windmills and figure 8s, body should pump it around and get out of the way of the swing.
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Much better closed shoulder. Now get deeper into pocket delaying the elbow extension and keeping hand further back on opposite side of disc longer. Your hand is already toward the leading edge of the disc.
So trying to get the disc deeper/picking up some pace I notice it's harder to stay as closed in previous video. Am I gonna be a little more open into release going into a deeper pocket or am I just over rotating lol? Also workin on keeping my hand around the outside of the disc as mentioned, kinda alot to chew on with this new revelation of bracing the body as well, def gotta drill some more hammer stuff to dial in. I'm noticing my off arm unintentionally wants to do some different things which has been trippin me out too. The first one here I'm a little more closed but the second one I'm forsure a bit more open. Both 440ft shots with a destroyer and pharaoh. I def need to play with launch and probably some nose down stuff I kinda suspect it's apart of some of the issue but idk
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Take some video of you doing Door Frame Drill, play around with rear foot placement, distance from frame and foot angle (rear toes should be somewhere around 6" offline from door frame and front toes on the line/inline to inside edge of door frame). Either you have mobility issues or you not are working deep enough into the drill and fully loaded/coiled and completing the backswing. Your shoulders stop turning back early/short and start going forward too early. Your rear foot also appears to spin out during the stride turning more backward and ending up more horsestanced.
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