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I am new to the sport and I am going through Overthrow Disc Golf building the backhand and I'm currently trying to nail down my form before I start throwing in the x step. All three throws in that video are mid range and are going about 200-250 feet. Just need some critiquing. Thanks for all the info.
 
I'm having troubles understanding the big up and over step you're doing or where that was picked up from. ... Maybe Josh teaches it? ... I .. dont know.



This might help you a bit more with your weight transfer, but. ... Sidewinder would have to explain it better than me, but this is what's queing in my head.

And relax man. You're so bottled up and shruggy tight.

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Right here you've already collapsed the swing as you're trying to throw your hips and knee's to drive your upper body.

The 2 best things that OT has done is box drill and twirly bird.
Twirly bird allows you to feel the drive arm come in and out and in and out in a natural motion and as you drive that feeling up, you try and build the box with the shoulder and elbow as you feel the hand curl in and then fly out.

so, here in this photo your shoulder has collapsed. gotta not tighten the shoulder, but relax it down, but keep the elbow forwards.

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Swing plane is huge, and what is happening here is all your weight isn't getting transfered right, you dont have this really good shift to the front with the step thing your doing, which is why i think the video above will help you.

But you can see the blue arrow here showing your shoulder power trajectory as you basically try and muscle your arm into place because your shoulder is collapsed, so you jerk the scapula and it pulls the shoulder up and out of plane with the shot.

We wanna rotate and stay on plane without trying to yeet discs with just our arm, and the posture you're displaying here shows me you're arm compensating.

The arrows are not literal places that your body parts should be, but the elbow should be forward by this point and the shoulder shoudln't be directed to low earth orbit.

Get your weight shift cleaned up and get more relaxed. let the arm do its thing. Just dont let it collapse to the chest and you'll make huge improvements just from those 2 things.
 
I'm having troubles understanding the big up and over step you're doing or where that was picked up from. ... Maybe Josh teaches it? ... I .. dont know.



This might help you a bit more with your weight transfer, but. ... Sidewinder would have to explain it better than me, but this is what's queing in my head.

And relax man. You're so bottled up and shruggy tight.

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Right here you've already collapsed the swing as you're trying to throw your hips and knee's to drive your upper body.

The 2 best things that OT has done is box drill and twirly bird.
Twirly bird allows you to feel the drive arm come in and out and in and out in a natural motion and as you drive that feeling up, you try and build the box with the shoulder and elbow as you feel the hand curl in and then fly out.

so, here in this photo your shoulder has collapsed. gotta not tighten the shoulder, but relax it down, but keep the elbow forwards.

View attachment 351160

Swing plane is huge, and what is happening here is all your weight isn't getting transfered right, you dont have this really good shift to the front with the step thing your doing, which is why i think the video above will help you.

But you can see the blue arrow here showing your shoulder power trajectory as you basically try and muscle your arm into place because your shoulder is collapsed, so you jerk the scapula and it pulls the shoulder up and out of plane with the shot.

We wanna rotate and stay on plane without trying to yeet discs with just our arm, and the posture you're displaying here shows me you're arm compensating.

The arrows are not literal places that your body parts should be, but the elbow should be forward by this point and the shoulder shoudln't be directed to low earth orbit.

Get your weight shift cleaned up and get more relaxed. let the arm do its thing. Just dont let it collapse to the chest and you'll make huge improvements just from those 2 things.

The step thing I believe is to help with my timing of my coil before I get to the x step. I will watch that video and probably take the step out because it's doing way more harm than good. Thank you for the advice!
 
The step thing I believe is to help with my timing of my coil before I get to the x step. I will watch that video and probably take the step out because it's doing way more harm than good. Thank you for the advice!
Yeah, I like sidewinders version of fixing that stuff a bit better.

I got some ways I teach it, but his forces a better balance i think.
You're not quite bracing right, so hopefully that helps.
 
Yeah, I like sidewinders version of fixing that stuff a bit better.

I got some ways I teach it, but his forces a better balance i think.
You're not quite bracing right, so hopefully that helps.
Too easy, unfortunately I'm traveling for the next week or so but I'm definitely going to be watching that video on repeat and practicing in my hotel. Would you recommend any other videos that would be beneficial, stuff I could dry practice?
 
Too easy, unfortunately I'm traveling for the next week or so but I'm definitely going to be watching that video on repeat and practicing in my hotel. Would you recommend any other videos that would be beneficial, stuff I could dry practice?

I don't really subscribe to the "shadow swing" for practice theology.

I use it when I'm trying to figure out a thing, but then immediately go to discs.

Hopefully sidewinder pops in here and makes some suggestions.
 
Mostly agree with Sheep, but numero uno you need to fix your stance, it's wide open so you hug yourself/rounding, instead of hugging the disc into power pocket with closed stance.
Playlist:
 
Mostly agree with Sheep, but numero uno you need to fix your stance, it's wide open so you hug yourself/rounding, instead of hugging the disc into power pocket with closed stance.
Playlist:

Team work!

I guess I should have mentioned that, I wasn't thinking about where he'd end up, just that your one drill would get him closer to where he needed to be.
 
I just got back in to town and I am going to take all the advice you guys have given me. Gotta drop my shoulder, stop rounding and trying to arm the disc, and fix my my stance which is too wide. I appreciate all your help, I will post a new video as soon as I get a chance. @sidewinder22 should i start that playlist from the beginning and just work my way through it?
 
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So I have been out practicing a couple times now, I can't seem to make the connection in my mind to stop arming the disc. I filmed a little bit today to see if it was correcting and I am still jerking my shoulder up and arming it. I tried a couple of the drills and I just can't seem to figure it out. Any pointers? (I added the xstep to get any pointers on that as well)
 
1. I'd work from a standing position like a pitcher or batter, instead of doing the x-step which is just adding extra moving parts.

2. Your front foot is planting wide open and knee is collapsing forward, instead of bracing up behind your ankle.


 

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