Innova Mako

[limonsock]

found a flat red star Mako a few years ago, tossed it today and thought it flew awesome! Same exact lines as my wizard, just a bunch farther. I was super disappointed to come on here and see that the recent runs have been been inconsistent and crappier. Has there been another good run since the domey third run?
also any suggestions of a disc that flies similarly a Mako, just longer? Im thinking that something with more distance could more justifiably make my bag.

 

[thechamp]

The only ones I ever threw were the flat first runs, they might have been the straightest flying mid I've ever thrown. All of the non first runs I have seen have had a higher shoulder and a dome. If you want a first run PM me. 8)

 

[JR]

Coyote is the disc that the Lycan is supposed to have replaced and i have no experience of the Lycan because it is so domey that it cannot handle winds without slowing down and grips poorly and the Coyotes are amazing. Coyotes are actually longer than the Comets which are longer than the Mako by a bit. So a Fuse would probably be a little longer too. While the Coyote is not exactly forgiving to missed hyzer angle gliding so well that it moves a lot sideways per erred degree the Fuse and the Comet are way more penalizing especially in the flipping. Mako FR yellow and a later one without the star stamp flew the same for me but both had slight domes. The Mako flips less easily than the Comet and is a few feet shorter 10' on average for me IIRC. Mako is also way more tolerant to user error just like the longer faster otherwise very similarly behaving Coyote. The Mako also punishes for missed hyzer like all of these high glide discs. All in all slightly domed Makos are a perfectly viable discs that has great competition in fairly similar discs and one of them is better.

Honorable mentions go out to Neutron Axis as well but it glides less and likes more power and is more Z Buzzz like. C MD opaque with slight dome is a more HSS Mako. I hear great things about flat gummy C MDs but have not even seen one. MD and Axis won't move so much off sideways if you miss the hyzer angle because of the lesser glide making them easier to place sideways and limit in distance thanks to the higher power requirement than the Mako and the rest of the discs mentioned here. Westside Warship is very much like the Mako in TP except the fade kicks in earlier and more mildly which may be good one some mildly left turning holes and hitting a tree in a tunnel earlier. The initial fade is so mild that you'd likely hit a tree in a tunnel with the Mako or the Coyote too.

 

[Monocacy]

. . . Coyotes are amazing. Coyotes are actually longer than the Comets . . .

JR, your relentless Coyote advocacy led me to order a pair of 165-6 Star Coyotes. I hope that the Coyote is a more-forgiving Z Comet. I will test them over the next few weeks / months (it takes longer to test discs in the winter).

I hope you are right about Coyotes, although it is hard to picture anything floating further downhill on less power than a Comet.

Edit for topicality: I tried a flattish 163 Star Mako. It seems like a perfectly nice disc, but it lacked the Comet's magic.

 

[JR]

I would not push the Coyote if it were not a tremendous disc and i do give a nod to the fairly similar DGA sparkle plastic Squall because it might suit somebody else better or at last their bag.

The Coyote is certainly more forgiving than the Comet for unclean releases and OAT but it is still nowhere near a straight driver in those categories. The Coyote is more power hungry for staying straight as long as the Comet but when that power is available the faster still well gliding Coyote will fly farther. I can imagine that for someone that throws the Comet say 250'' The Coyote might fade earlier and possibly not get any more distance. For me the Coyote does not flip at all until i throw it beyond say 270' after which it will flip. I've thrown the Comet on a good throw to 330' without flipping but puring like that is not too often so i'm better and golfable out to a maximum of 300' with the Comet if even that on dangerous holes. I'm way more confident with the Coyote in tunnels. My Coyote record is 347' so tops there is only 17' of distance difference but on average the Coyote is longer and since it does not demand as much height for nay given distance it is more golfable when branches are around.

 

[Bonehead]

Hard to imagine this will be any useful improvement on the Shark...maybe a slower Shark? But who wants that?!

All these years later.... lol