• Variety: Decent – As the name suggests, the course is predominantly tight and technical, but there are a few more open holes where you can let loose a bit off the tee. Dual tees help create a range of distances, but most of the holes are fairly short with the longest hole clocking in at 348 ft from the long tee. Note that six holes have only a single tee pad for both red & white layouts. Pretty good variety of fairway shapes, so other than distance, you'll need a well-rounded game to score well.

• Challenge: Good – I found it reasonably tough to card birdies, and quite possible to card bogies, so I liked the fact that scores of 2, 3, and 4 were all very much in play off the tee, but birdies really have to be earned with well placed tee shots to set up a good look. Going off into the rough is likely to end in bogey, but you can scramble to save par.

• Elevation: None I can recall.

• Aesthetics: Good – A pleasant enough walk through the woods, but other than a few glimpses of the lake, nothing really stood out to me. A few holes near the front of the park introduce a bit of buzz killing road noise, but the busy road never comes into play.

• Equipment – Decent. Tees and baskets were good enough to be non-issues. Signage was present, but could definitely be better.

• Routing/Nav: - Decent – Not bad overall, but there were a few tees that felt like finding them was a bit of a scavenger hunt. Would benefit from a few more directional aids advising you where to go.

• Fun factor: Depends on your preference of woods golf, or "let her rip" golf. Players who prefer the short, technical, woods golf will have a great time here. Those who prefer to throwing big air shots will likely find this course a frustrating waste of time.

• A few holes that feel unfairly tight or pinball-like, and more like a joke or novelty.

• Signage and navigational aids could be improved.

• Baskets with color or flags would improve visibility in the shadowy woods.

The Woods isn't the reason to come to Bill Frederick Park, but it's well worth a run through if you're already in the park for the other two courses.

Strictly speaking, as a stand-alone course, it's a bit lacking in variety, but with two other quality courses in the park, it's hard to knock it for that. As a 3rd option, I thought it provided a fun change of pace with plenty of ace run and birdie opportunities, so in that aspect, I'd say it's a success.

Keep in mind that The Woods is located right near the park's main entrance. The other two courses are located about 2/3 of a mile deeper into the park.

Better signage, navigational aids and something to make baskets more visible, and I might be inclined to give it a 3.0.

I feel like if I had paid just to play this course, I would feel let down but as a throw in 3rd course after the other two that were pretty legit this was fine.

You get a good amount of shorter, shot shaping holes that demand you hit some tight lines off the box and get you to specific fairway points or parts on the green to be successful.

There are also some longer more open holes to mix things up as well and bring some OB paths and the reeds along the lake into play on the later holes.

Two sets of pads out here though neither particularly long. They are nice concrete and big enough for the sort run up you will need.

Baskets are chainstars and in good repair and I only had one putt I felt should have stuck that didn't.

There are next tee signs now attached to the bottom of the baskets that make navigation pretty easy.

First hole is tricky to find, not where I thought to look at first, wouldn't have found it without the DGCR description.

Tee signs are good, but I think the are only for the big tournament that is about to go down there, lamented paper only and on wooden stakes low to the ground.

Chainstars are a poor basket choice for a primarily wooded/blind basket course. You need some color out there, they are very hard to see.

The course is short, and some holes are so tight it's not a legitimate design in my opinion. Holes 9/10 and 13 are the worst offenders. Just entirely too tight for anything other than a poke and hope. 9/10 are at least very short, 13 is not. Nearly 300ft and the fairway is often 10ft wide as has a sharp bend 2/3 down.

No benches at all or any amenities to speak of.

Overall it's not a bad little course, but by far the weakest of the three at this park. I was tempted to rate it worse, but it embodies a 2.5 in reality. Decent and typical but not that great.

If I come back I may just play the other two courses.

The Woods Course at Bill Frederick Park is the newest of the three and is located right at the entrance of the park. The other two courses are at the other end of the large park. It is the shortest, easiest, and most wooded of the three courses. But it's really not to be skipped. I think the ratings for all three courses are about right. I have the Woods Course at 2.5, the Original Course at 3.5, and "T2" at 4.0. But that has more to do with challenge than anything else. All three are well-designed and very fun. The Woods Course just caters more to Rec to Intermediate-level players, whereas "T1" is more Intermediate to Advanced and T2 has something for everyone, up to and including Pro.

+ I'm discovering that this is a personal pet peeve of mine: I hate it when courses label their layouts with color schemes that contradict the PDGA guidelines for Novice, Rec, Intermediate, Advanced, and Pro. Bill Frederick nails it with proper labeling for layouts on all three courses. There is a White (Intermediate) layout on each of the three courses. That's the layout I played. While the Woods Course was the easiest of those three, T2 was the hardest, and T1 was in between, each one was appropriately labeled White/Intermediate and fell into the 880-930 rating range for a par round. To me, this is very helpful in comparing courses across the country and finding the best tracks to challenge you.

Here are the layouts for each of the Bill Frederick courses:

> Woods Course: Red/Rec, White/Intermediate

> T1: Original Course: White/Intermediate, Blue/Advanced

> T2: The Turkeynator: Green/Novice, Red/Rec, White/Intermediate, Blue/Advanced, Gold/Pro

+ The Woods Course was mostly wooded, but there is still a good bit of variety. There are open holes; one nice downhill hole; some left to right, right to left, and straight fairways. The fairway widths are appropriate for the hole length. The shortest holes are also the most technical ones.

+ In terms of Fun Factor alone, I put the Woods Course right up there with the other two more established and higher rated courses. In fact, I may have enjoyed myself more here than on the brutal T2. (I probably had the most fun playing T1.) If you like woods golf, shaping shots and hitting technical lines, you'll enjoy the Woods Course.

+ Several good ace runs on this course. I hit the pole on one hole and my son went right over the band on another.

+ I picked up maps to all three courses at the front gate. They are helpful for navigating the courses. Without maps, there are places you can get lost.

+ The tee pads and baskets were fine. No issues.

There's nothing flashy about the Woods Course. It's not the standout of the three tracks at Bill Frederick, but it's not a bad course at all. I think it's a pretty typical 18-hole course. If it was a standalone course at a free public park, I'd have no issues playing it on the regular. Would I pay $5 just to play this course? Meh. Probably not if there are other options. But the beauty of this park is that you get three tracks for $5. And if you pay to play here, you should definitely make time to play all three.

- Of the three tracks, it's the easiest and the least scenic. (It's still pretty, just not above average aesthetically like the other two.)

- While a woods course, there are still several grassy fairways. When I played, the grass was pretty long. Otherwise, the park is very well maintained. I didn't see any trash.

- A few too many sub-200 foot holes for my taste, especially for an Intermediate level course. Ace runs are fun and all, but I thought it was on the easier end of the spectrum compared to its two big brothers.

- Hole 13 is kind of a plinko hole. I couldn't tell if it was an impossible par 3 or an ultra short par 4. UDisc has it as a par 4. Signage and DGCR says par 3. Anyway, it's a poke and hope hole as currently constituted.

- I wouldn't say there's a real stand-out, signature hole here. There are a lot of decent and fun ones, but nothing as memorable as the other two courses on the property. The big downhill hole, #2, was probably my favorite and most memorable.

Don't skip the Woods Course if you're planning a day at Bill Frederick. It's a good change of pace from the other two more open, longer, more difficult tracks. If you're an intermediate player (like me), you're in luck as White/Intermediate is the only layout on all three courses. Check them all out!

Several fun ace runs.

1/3 of a set that can entertain you for days with camping and cabins on site. Pool onsite, several bathrooms, vending machine, and discs for sale in the club houses.

The starts pf all 3 courses were hard to find. Next tee signs help if they are still intact. A few spots where navigation and flow could have been better. Hole 5 is easy to get lost.

The maps are garbage. No help at all. There needs to be signage to guide tou to the start of each course.

Not a good course for competition. Not much scoring seperation between various level players. Every hole in the front 9 is an easy 3 for any level.

For being in the "woods" there was suprisingly little shade.

$4 per car is nothing when all the amenaties are taken in. ($2 single player for all 3 courses)

a little maintenence and new pads and this course is an easy 3 star.

(2.495 Rating) Not a fully developed course as of my April 2017 round.
- CHALLENGING - Despite the short length, this course will challenge you in a different way when compared to the other two courses on site. If you like short technical courses, this has the possibility of being your favorite course at Bill Frederick Park. Although, I think that notion is still years away for most.
- SHOT SHAPING - Although far from the most wooded layout I've played, the course will require the most shot shaping of the 3 courses. 8 or 9 shots on this layout with need to be released at a precise point and move in well thought out line. A run of holes (9 - 14) will be a welcome treat for those who can perform magic tricks with their discs.
- CHILL AREAS - There are lots of secluded nooks to take a break in, that is if you brought your own seating or if you don't mind sitting on the ground. I'm sure if you're reading this, and year has passed since my review, benches will be here.
- ACE RUNS - Several shots are very much on the short side. If you hit the right line on (4,12 or 14) the sound of chains may be in your future. All of those holes are at or under 200 feet from the back/only tees.
- TWO MORE COURSES ON SITE - Can you really go wrong with 54 holes at one location?

The Woods has a ways to go to get to the same level of the other two courses.
- NAVIGATION - Horrible. I'm sure I'll be fixed soon, but it did not help that I received the old map from the gate office. My playing partner and I got turned around several times and coupled with a bad map, mislabeled baskets, and tee #s that didn't match the basket #s, it got real frustrating. I found out later, that the DGCR map is a more accurate map. All this stated, it appears that the course may still be going through some tweaking, so be cognizant of the added adventure possibilities.
- FORGIVENESS - There are a couple holes on this layout that can be real punishing if you miss a 4 foot lane. Holes (9, 10 and 13) are all holes without much of a plausible angle to the basket and ricochets are almost guaranteed. A bad bounce, and a bogie will become your objective.
- OVERGROWTH - Of the 3 courses on site, this one by far has the most overgrowth coverage. It's by no means the worst out there, but definitely very subpar if you like manicured courses.
- BEGINNER FRIENDLY - Way too difficult for beginners. I could also see many recreation players also not liking this course as well if they don't like heavy to moderately wooded technical courses. Beginners are best served to stick with the original course.
- CHARACTER - Considering that this course is still in its infancy, it lacks just about all of the niceties present at the other two courses at the time of my April 2017 round. Natural and carpet tees, no hole signage other than number, no practice basket, no multiple basket placements, no bag holders, no seating and no restrooms. The tees however, were mostly shaded and there were two tees at many of the holes.
- ELEVATION - Really not that much and below average for even Florida. I don't think The Woods course changes by 10 feet on any one hole. Maybe holes ( 2 or 5) approach 10 feet in change.
- UNIQUENESS - In addition to poor elevation, the course hole variety is about average or slightly below. A bunch of technical wooded shots with only one approachable angle. Although you'll see water, it's really not in play to force a line. No par 4s or 5s. Only one sort-of dogleg hole on (13).
- RAW BEAUTY - The Woods course does not have the same grace as the other two Bill Frederick courses. The tree removal scars are very much present at the time of this review and parts the course have tractor track wounds as well.

The Woods course is still fresh and for that reason, it is still lacking in many areas when compared to other well established courses. Ultimately, I see The Woods course approaching a 3 to 3.5 rating if its flaws are fixed, but I just cant imagine it ever approaching the dominance of T2.