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Chalybeate Springs Sports Complex

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wolfhaley
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Experience: 20 years 1008 played 579 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 20, 2024 Played the course:once

Pros:

Chalybeate Springs is currently an 18 hole layout. You can still see some baskets on the other side of the parking lot from the previous 27 hole version. Since that time there's been some houses built along with some soccer fields that these holes used to play in. Even now it looks like they're in the process of modifying/updating the 18 that are currently available.

Concrete tee pads on each hole. Decently sized and in solid shape. No issues with these. One tee pad per hole.

The baskets are Discatcher's. These are on the older side but are all still in good shape and caught just fine. One basket and pin placement per hole.

The course is a mixture of open and wooded. About two thirds open and a third of them on the edges of the park tucked into the woods. The woods holes are what even boost this course up to a 2.5. Holes 4-8 and 14 and 15 are the woods holes. Hole 4 is a fun downhill ace run. Holes 5 and 6 are flat but have some trees to contend with. Hole 7 plays up a ridiculously steep grade on a 170' hole. Probably 65 to 70 degrees of angle basically straight up the hill. Hole 8 is another shorty but that steep cliffside is basically the whole right side of the fairway. These are the two best holes on the course imo. Hole 14 is very short and downhill too. If you miss you're headed into the abyss behind the basket and saving par would be a feat.

The flow of the course is pretty easy to follow. I'd still recommend a map to speed things along but it's doable without one for sure. The course starts and ends by the parking lot. In fact the front nine also ends by the parking lot too.

The course was in great shape and appears to be well taken care of. There was even a lot of brush and limb cleaning done down by holes 5 and 6. Holes 14 and 15 are still pretty rough but I'd assume that those are next on the agenda.

Cons:

The majority of the course is basically wide open shots. There's a few trees on many of them to at least make you hit a gap. It's basically just the one gap though. Hit that and you're in the clear.

Some overly punishing holes for newer players on the woods holes. Hole 7 is too steep for newer players to even realistically make it up there.

A couple holes are pretty close to or even cross fairways. the most egregious of these is hole 4 throwing right into the middle of 5's fairway. Holes 3 and 9 and then 16 and 17 are also pretty close to each other.

On school property so the hours to play it are limited.

No tee signs currently, but it looks like those are in the works. The posts for the signs looked brand new.

Other Thoughts:

This was a decent course. We played it after both Wolf Knob and Holler and this was a great cool down course. There's some pretty cool holes for a school course actually. And this is basically the polar opposite of Holler so it's a good foil to that one. It won't take too long to play this one if you're nearby but just know that it's not going to knock your socks off or anything.
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PastorofMuppets
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Experience: 4.8 years 150 played 118 reviews
2.50 star(s)

However you pronounce the thing

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 22, 2023 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

1) This quant school property set course is quite a bit off the beaten path if you are in the Bowling Green area, probably 10-15 minutes from Ephram White and another 10-15 from Holler in the Hills. It won't wow you with it's beauty like some of the other courses in the area, but it does have its charm.

2) The main 18 is a short, mildly technical track with a mix of open park style golf holes and a few short but technical wooded holes (which are the stars of the show). The first time I played this course it had 27 holes, but they have built new baseball fields where the additional 9 holes were, I was able to spot a basket or two, but nothing else of the old added holes.

3) Gives off very similar vibes to Bowling Green's Hobson Grove and Basil Griffith in terms of distance, mildly wooded, hit your line deuce or die style course. Recreational players and below should enjoy this course and the level of difficulty without it being overwhelming. Intermediate on up will probably get bored with this course as you should really be taking birdie on every hole.

4) The course has a decent natural flow that once started from hole one is pretty intuitive to follow. Course signage used to be stellar but has been damaged or stolen over the years, concrete teepads, and older discatcher baskets are all in well loved but still good condition. (You will find random stickers and sharpie marked aces on almost every basket band and tee sign, which might be a negative for people upset about that kind of thing)

5) Solid use of elevation change on an otherwise pretty flat piece of land. Designer smartly used gradual slopes, and steep drop off, and tight mando lines between trees to create a sharp shooter course rather than a let it fly course. This course definitely rewards accuracy and good putting.

6) Holes are very easy to Par if you are off your game and there is only mild danger as far as OB or natural tough spots to scramble from. But for those determined to put up a snowman, a couple of the wooded holes afford you that chance.

7) Holes 4-7 and I believe it was 13-14 are the stars of the show. These constitute the lions share of the wooded holes. Hole 4 in particular is a very short tee shot over a steep cliff drop off that forces you to go under the low ceiling of the trees at the bottom of the cliff or carve a super tight line to an elevated basket hanging from a cable between two trees. The basket is above head height, there are small creeks/streams to the left and behind the basket making every part of this hole intimidating for lower level players. And it is beautiful to look at, and fun to empty your bag and ace run.

8) Hole 7 inverts hole 4 and forces you to play straight up the side of a cliff probably 4 stories in elevation. Without the elevation, the straight line distance from tee pad to basket is probably 75 feet. This basket sits perched at the top of the cliff protected by trees and rock outcroppings and anything short or hitting a tree comes back down to the tee with you. (I watched a guy in our group land his tee shot past the basket safe and proceed to miss his birdie putt on a fly by and it landed back down the cliff near the tee pad. Sad walk back down. He pitched up onto the top, long walk up and again missed his putt and it landed at the bottom again in almost the same exact spot. He abandoned his lie and reputted and made it this time and left his putter at the bottom of the hill refusing to make the trek back down and up again. You know how a group of friends can be, and the laughter and razzing that ensued made this trip all the more worth it.

9) Hole 13 greets you with a tight 5 foot wide gap with an immediate tree in the middle of it only a few feet past and you must choose right or left. This downhill the entire way hole slopes at probably a 35 degree angle with a cliff about 60 feet behind the basket. Can you hit the gap and slide your disc under the basket safely, or will you tree kick launch it into the green river below? Sounds difficult because it is, but its only about 160 feet and you could always not go for the gap off the tee and pitch to the sides on the walking trail and chip down.

10) Very good balance of distances (holes compared to each other) and shot angles despite the short nature of the course.

Cons:

1) There are a couple "sand traps" randomly placed in the middle of some fairways. These have long since been overgrown by grass but are marked as "hazards" on the tee signs. I'm guessing this was intentionally added when the course was built and used to add some difficulty to otherwise bland holes, but I strongly dislike useless penalties. Either it's OB or it's not.

2) For the big arms amongst us this course will not satiate your appetite. This will be, in most cases, and unremarkable putter/mid course. The course is in no way a bad course, it's actually well done, but it's just not intended for more skilled players.

3) Not extremely cart friendly with the extreme elevation changes in the woods, footing can be sketchy with all the side slopes and slick rocks, the bottoms (4-7) can flood and be soggy year round. Be cautious if you have bad knees or a hard time climbing steep rocks. Do yourself a favor and leave your carts at the top of the hill and take a few discs with you when you play hole 4-7 and grab your cart after you finish 7.

4) High risk of losing a disc on the wooded holes. Suggest not playing alone and having someone spot ahead in the group. The woods is not always mowed and maintained the greatest either, so be wary.

5) A lot of this course is gimmicky or at least feels that way as you play it. I give it a small pass in that regards because it is on school property. They probably would have been much better served building a solid 9 hole course here than squeezing in (at one point) 27 short holes. But don't get me wrong, the course still has it's charm and is fun to play.

Other Thoughts:

Definitely a fun little course that deserves a one time play if you are nearby. If Holler ever gets into it's old form again you can combine these two. I wouldn't make the trip this far out of Bowling Green just for this course unless you are trying to bag them all. There are just simply too many better courses to spend your time at.
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craigd
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Experience: 15.7 years 180 played 120 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Chalybeate Springs 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 22, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Chalybeate, the course that gets pronounced more ways than it has holes, is a fun little track. It's off the beaten path as far as Bowling Green courses are concerned, a good 30 minutes or so from downtown. But even with the comparatively out of the way feel from the downtown vibe of BG courses, I still enjoyed my round.

My first and only experience here came during the 2018 BG Amateur Champ tourney where I played a hybrid "long layout". It combined some holes, skipped some holes, and brought in some artificial OB's. Still, this gave me an opportunity to see some of the whole course as mapped here while playing the tourney arrangement.

Holes 1-18 had a pretty good design given the park features and will certainly satisfy those who struggle with the longer drives. The shorter holes incorporate some openness, woods, and some elevation changes around the course. Instead of distance, these will require some sharpshooting, good putts, and when in the woods, accuracy. Subsequently, you must load your card with birdies to score well here. Par golf will get you nothing in terms of ratings or a lead on the field.

The hole 4-7 interchange is probably the most notable with 4's downhill shot to a hanging basket, 5-6's scenic forest floor run, finished by 7's uphill shot. (I happened to skip hole 7's uphill shot and played the combined 5's tee to 6's basket) Beyond that, there is some basic, fun, short, city park style golf shots. Over all, considering the short holes, there is a good balance.

Holes 19-27, the apparent later addition to the course, are lengthier and compliment the shorter side of the course. Together they ring up at just over 2700' so look for a steady dose of slightly over or under 300' foot shots. Being primary open, there is not a lot of shot shaping required save for a time or two where an OB road or a ball field presents itself. There were a couple "sand traps" on the open field holes that played as OB hazards (no relief, penalty stroke). That did happen to add to what would be rather straightforward holes. It's also worth noting the elevated basket on hole 24 with OB road just to the left. This makes for a tricky putt when pin high to the right of the basket.

You'll find all the garden variety amenities here. Concrete tees, decent baskets, scattered benches, along with many of the other staples are all represented.

Cons:

Well, for the bombers out there, the shortness will leave you wanting more, even on the lengthier holes 19-27. It's short enough and unremarkable enough where a certain percentage of advanced/open level players won't enjoy the round. Not because the course is all bad, there is just a lack of challenge and/or too many luck factors when in the woods.

The above mention holes 19-27 can be fun but overall, they're uninteresting and unimaginative.
Look out for some steep elevation with some tough footing a few times.

Overall there's nothing too absurd for the cons section. I think the previous reviews touch on most of the complaints and the repeat offenders are made clear.

Generally speaking, I don't think this is a bad course. You just need to understand its uniqueness and play it for what it is. With all the courses to choose from in BG, think of this one as the drunk uncle of the family.

Other Thoughts:

As far as a tourney course, especially the BG Am Champs, it certainly adds to the variety of course types. That's a good thing or a bad thing depending on who you ask, and which version (short or long) they played. I happened to enjoy it.

While I see everyone's point, overall, I think the steep terrain is over exaggerated. I'd say its manageable with no problems for those in moderately good shape. For the cart guys, 90% of the course is friendly but you'll struggle or get aggravated with it a few times.

This is a fun, multi-use city park golf course. If your time is limited in Bowling Green, I'd recommend some of the other courses. But if you are bagging as may courses as possible and can fit this one in, by all means, enjoy!
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sisyphus
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Experience: 12.7 years 398 played 383 reviews
2.50 star(s)

It’s pronounced Ka-LEE-be-it. You’re welcome 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 23, 2015 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Located well north and out of the town of Bowling Green, KY (10 miles past Ephram White), Chalybeate is a shorter, technical, and sometimes quite hilly, 18 hole course good enough to be used some years for the BG Ams. The hole distances are quite manageable for even a Recreational level player, so it's considered a 'deuce or die' course for anybody above 'Rec'.

With good, level, concrete tees and DisCatcher baskets (freshly mulched), the infrastructure was excellently updated in 2015 for the big tournament. New stairs went in on the steep hill going up to basket #7. Snow fencing was installed to catch the roll-aways on the steep hillside holes 8, 14 and 15. There are nice new benches at holes 8 & 16.

Personally, I rate courses as much for their fun factor as for their challenge, and Chalybeate has some fun shots that gave it a definite rating boost in my book. The open shots aren't much to write home about, but it's nice for us shorter arms to have the longest hole (11, at 365 feet) be wide open and definitely downslope. There's a drop shot down into the woods, a couple of shorties down on the terrace beside a beautiful creek, where you can choose your line around and amongst the lightly wooded trees, the fun up-hiller to the 7th basket, and a couple of gut checks along the side of the slope (numbered in the above paragraph).

Cons:

The lack of big distance shots is often lamented, and, combined with it being a little remote, means Chalybeate doesn't get as much play (or as much care, in the past, except when the big tourney uses the course) as some of the 'bigger' courses down closer to BG. I can imagine the course being a little more...'rustic' most of the time.

Some folks might not like the 'luck factor' of the steep greens on 7, 8, 14 & 15, and they are not easy on the knees, if you have problems in that department. It's not that they'll exhaust you, they're just unusually steep. Even I'd probably avoid them if it were really wet. Finally, the course flow might be confusing for first timers around the conjunction by the 9th tee, between basket 3, tee 4 and tee 18.

Other Thoughts:

Edit: With Holler In The Hills now closed, the local club decided to use some of those baskets and add some longer, open holes to Chalybeate so that Advanced and Open players might enjoy this course beyond its 'deuce or die' nature. With strict tourney OB in place, it probably accomplishes this mission for Intermediates (who tend to be a little less consistent), but they might not see as much score separation as hoped for the really hugh ratings players, who will probably deuce most of these holes.

On the other hand, Chalybeate is still a fun course, and, if you make arrangements, The Goat Path would round out a really nice sampler of Mammoth Cave region / central Kentucky style disc golf!
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bjreagh
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Experience: 27.7 years 350 played 321 reviews
2.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 13, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 hole course- good concrete tees and baskets including practice basket. Kiosk with large color course map. You just can't navigate on auto-pilot the first time you play, but it is not too hard to figure out without a map.

Good variety and balance of open grassy fairway holes and narrow wooded holes that went up and down and left and right. One hole goes straight down and another goes straight up to the top of the bluff about 100'. Each 9 loops back the parking lot. Both 9's start with open holes, go in the woods for a few holes, then finish back out in the open. Adding in the walking paths as O.B makes #1 and #2 more challenging.

Cons:

Signs used to be good, but only about half the color map tee signs still exist, the rest just have hole # and distance faintly drawn on the wood post.

#4 is straight downhill, but the path down is not the safest, could use some steps like found in other places.

For the most part the course is in an area all by itself, but, if the walking trail was busy, there could be a risk of hitting somebody on several holes.

I played in the summer- the open grassy fairways had been mowed at some point but needed mowed again, the wood fairways were narrow and the plant growth on the ground there was often not different than the rough, and the rough was ankle to knee high and dense. I played by myself and basically had to place my bag half way down the fairway, take a disc back to the tee, and in one motion throw and then run down the fairway to watch where the disc landed. I would recommend playing with others and having spotters, or playing in the winter if by yourself.

My opinion, but a couple holes on the bluff (for me) had too much risk for losing a disc off the bluff (requiring more luck than skill)- the fairways were narrow with lots of trees and sloped steeply toward the drop. There was a plastic fence along the two holes to help with disc loss but you could still fly over or slide under or even roll under in some spots. The basket for one was near the dledge and the landing area was steep- I basically slid my putter on the ground for 2 shots and then dropped it in the basket.

Other Thoughts:

It is actually a pretty fun course. Most, if not all, holes are dueceable for any experienced player, but don't let the distances fool you, there is plenty of challenge on the wooded holes where the main fear of losing your disc in the rough or off the bluff makes you think twice about how to play the hole.

A good course for beginner to intermediate players- not too long, plenty of open holes (in fact first timers could just play the open holes 1,2, 10,11,12,16,17,18 or something like that). The woods holes are not long but are tough and tight. This course demonstrates a lot of types of hole styles one will encounter on other courses. Map shows a lot of water but I didn't feel like the creek ever came in to play, and I really only caught a glimpse of it once (maybe in the spring the creek gets fuller and wider?).

Would make for a nice quick warm-up round for advanced players before going over to play Holler in the Hills.

The directions to the nearby school worked perfect on my GPS- the park entrance is just past the school- and once in the park, the course is easy to find.
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mashnut
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Experience: 22.2 years 831 played 777 reviews
2.50 star(s)

An interesting mix 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 10, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course plays through a multi use park, but doesn't conflict with other park activities. There is a nice mix of open rolling field shots and some tightly wooded holes. There is a steep drop into the woods, and a couple holes play up and down the hill, and others bring it in to play as a possible hazard, making for some fun and interesting shots. There is some length on a couple of the open holes, and the wooded holes will make you hit tight lines with brushy rough waiting to punish an errant shot.

There is a nice course map at the beginning of the course, and the flow of the course is good with no navigation issues. There are decent concrete pads and tee signs for every hole, and the discatchers are in good shape.

Cons:

The open holes are wide open, and get a little boring and repetitive. The wooded holes are nice and technical, but all are short so they don't end up being all that challenging. The short downhill hole is fun, but a longer shot down the hill would be a nice complementary hole and add a little to the fun factor.

It's quite brushy and wet down in the woods, making for a pretty buggy and possibly mucky round. It ends up being a pretty easy course overall, with lots of birdie opportunities, and not too many holes that really threaten a bogey unless you screw up multiple times. A little more challenge and more tough wooded holes instead of all the field holes would add some variety and challenge.

Other Thoughts:

This is a decent warm up course for nearby Holler in the Hills or on your way south to Bowling Green, but isn't worth a long drive by itself. There are some fun holes, but too many wide open shots and not enough challenge to make it a must play. Beginners will enjoy the mix of wooded and open shots, and won't find too much length. More experienced players will be able to score well here with only a mid and putter, and won't really be tested.
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SimonCarr
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Experience: 25 years 116 played 57 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Interesting course... 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 29, 2006 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course is a weird one. There are the standard hyzer/anhyzer shots in a field, but it gets ineteresting when you get into the woods. Highlight of the course are the extreme elevation shots. One hole plays 40 feet forward and 100 feet downhill, you can literally throw a jump putt from the teepad and let the disc drift down. Alternatively, there is another shot that goes back up the cliff which requires a thumber, tomahawk or a crazy roller shot. Most of the holes on this course are short, with a lot of birdies to be had.

Cons:

Not challenging enough. Not really worth playing this one if you are visiting the Bowling Green area since there are so many other great courses around.

Other Thoughts:

Overall the course feels like it was kind of haphazardly put together, although there are some interesting holes.
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jclepa
Experience: 22.9 years 50 played 8 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Fun little course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 23, 2007 Played the course:never

Pros:

Excellent holes around bluffs. Variety of shots needed.

Cons:

Open Holes rather boring. Can see 2 or 3 baskets from some tee pads, we had to check the map a few times to know where to throw.

Other Thoughts:

I'm really glad I played this course in winter. Extra foliage would have stopped my disc many times.
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