this hole is long and plays down hill so you will get extra glide out of your disc. I recommend throwing a midrange for stronger armed players and a leopard or teebird for others. If your throwing left handed or forehand throw something with more stability and with hyzer, but make sure it will come back and not end up in the creek. I threw a cobra and a stingray and had plenty of distance with both. Basket is elevated so dont gun one to far past.