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Hart Hydro DGC reviews
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wolfhaley
Diamond level trusted reviewer
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Experience:
20.1 years
1023 played
597 reviews
Don't Even Bother. 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Jun 8, 2021
Played the course:once
Pros:
Hart Hydro DGC plays along the damn in a nice little section of the park. Seems to be mostly disc golf exclusive except for the trail along the lake.
The baskets are Chainstars that are in excellent condition and catch great. One pin position per hole.
The tee pads are all concrete or asphalt. The asphalt ones are fine. Not the greatest, especially on holes 13 and 14. The other pads are excellent. Pretty large, I'd say standard to above average size. These are really well done. One tee pad per hole.
The signs are nothing special, but are actually probably the best out of any course in the general area. They have the hole #, distance and an arrow showing the basic shape of the hole.
Mix of open and wooded holes. Elevation used nicely. Course is free to play and permanent.
The baskets are Chainstars that are in excellent condition and catch great. One pin position per hole.
The tee pads are all concrete or asphalt. The asphalt ones are fine. Not the greatest, especially on holes 13 and 14. The other pads are excellent. Pretty large, I'd say standard to above average size. These are really well done. One tee pad per hole.
The signs are nothing special, but are actually probably the best out of any course in the general area. They have the hole #, distance and an arrow showing the basic shape of the hole.
Mix of open and wooded holes. Elevation used nicely. Course is free to play and permanent.
Cons:
Where to begin.
Let's start with the course design. There is some good space to put a disc golf course in here. No doubt about it. However, 18 holes is WAY too many here. You could make a really solid 9 hole course, even a 12 probably. The safety issues are ridiculous. Holes 2,3,4,5 and 6 all practically play on top of each other. Same with 10,11,12 and 15. Oh yeah, and 13 and 14 share the same fairway. And each tee is blind from the other tee. Did I miss any? Probably.
Oh and the 3 holes in the wooded section also play practically on top of each other. Any tree kick on these three has a great chance of careening into an adjacent fairway.
I wasn't a huge fan of the cliffsides right off the fairways of 5 and 13. They're almost vertical drops. And there's no indication warning you of hole 5's, which is just into the woodline on the left. I got a bad tree kick to the right on 13. Of course it slid halfway down the cliff. Trying to retreive it, I had the stump above me give way and roll down into the back of my knee. Fun!
Holes 13 and 14 are just an abomination of course design. Hole 13 plays blind, uphill on an old road/walking path. Hole 14 does the same thing just backwards. Just awful.
Easy to lose a disc in a few spots. Basically any of the brush along the outskirts of the wooded holes. Most notably holes 7 and 16. Especially hole 16 which is an extrem dogleg downhill and to the right. And totally blind.
Let's start with the course design. There is some good space to put a disc golf course in here. No doubt about it. However, 18 holes is WAY too many here. You could make a really solid 9 hole course, even a 12 probably. The safety issues are ridiculous. Holes 2,3,4,5 and 6 all practically play on top of each other. Same with 10,11,12 and 15. Oh yeah, and 13 and 14 share the same fairway. And each tee is blind from the other tee. Did I miss any? Probably.
Oh and the 3 holes in the wooded section also play practically on top of each other. Any tree kick on these three has a great chance of careening into an adjacent fairway.
I wasn't a huge fan of the cliffsides right off the fairways of 5 and 13. They're almost vertical drops. And there's no indication warning you of hole 5's, which is just into the woodline on the left. I got a bad tree kick to the right on 13. Of course it slid halfway down the cliff. Trying to retreive it, I had the stump above me give way and roll down into the back of my knee. Fun!
Holes 13 and 14 are just an abomination of course design. Hole 13 plays blind, uphill on an old road/walking path. Hole 14 does the same thing just backwards. Just awful.
Easy to lose a disc in a few spots. Basically any of the brush along the outskirts of the wooded holes. Most notably holes 7 and 16. Especially hole 16 which is an extrem dogleg downhill and to the right. And totally blind.
Other Thoughts:
I wouldn't recommend this course to anybody. I rated it a 1 (poor) based almost entirely on the equipment. Great tees and baskets. Literally the only worthwhile aspects of the course. One of the unsafest designs I've ever seen. Pick literally any of the other nearby courses if you need to play a round. Don't Even Bother.
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Is it possible to shake a course designers hand and punch them in the mouth at the same time? 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Aug 4, 2018
Played the course:once
Pros:
- Brand new Discraft Chainstars. They catch great unless you're a 1000 rated pro with an inability to putt with a velocity south of 60 mph.
- Concrete tee pads are also wonderful. Finished with a broom to the grippy texture that everyone loves. Some may argue that these are a touch small but it didn't bother me at all.
- Ignoring the rather idiotic layout for the moment...I will say that the design of a few of these holes really impressed me. For example, #12 is a sharp downhill with a fairway that goes from wide open to very narrow and a pin placement that is really touch to reach. If that weren't enough, there's a creek on the right side that isn't quite in play but close enough to get in your head. I also loved 16 and it's crazy left to right sharp as all get out dogleg. 18, 7, 15 and 10 I also thought were pretty good layout.
- Its a scenic course really with the reservoir right there. With all that open space over the water I can see how wind will present an additional challenge to some of these holes. Also be sure to note on the map that it appears that 18 throws over a roadway. That is not the case. That is concrete spillway for the dam. It'll be pretty hard on the plastic but FYI nothing indicated the concrete pad was OB.
- Concrete tee pads are also wonderful. Finished with a broom to the grippy texture that everyone loves. Some may argue that these are a touch small but it didn't bother me at all.
- Ignoring the rather idiotic layout for the moment...I will say that the design of a few of these holes really impressed me. For example, #12 is a sharp downhill with a fairway that goes from wide open to very narrow and a pin placement that is really touch to reach. If that weren't enough, there's a creek on the right side that isn't quite in play but close enough to get in your head. I also loved 16 and it's crazy left to right sharp as all get out dogleg. 18, 7, 15 and 10 I also thought were pretty good layout.
- Its a scenic course really with the reservoir right there. With all that open space over the water I can see how wind will present an additional challenge to some of these holes. Also be sure to note on the map that it appears that 18 throws over a roadway. That is not the case. That is concrete spillway for the dam. It'll be pretty hard on the plastic but FYI nothing indicated the concrete pad was OB.
Cons:
OMG...where to start...
- First of all, after all the courses in the world that have been installed I kind of assumed that people would have learned not to design courses that have criss-crossing fairways. Wrong. 10 and 15 cross...WHY?! Welp...there's reason #1 no TD is going to touch this course with a 10-foot pole for a tourney. Check out reason #2...It's pretty sweet!
- And here's reason #2 smart TD's will never run a tourney here...13 and 14 share a fairway. Not just happen to be next to each other but you throw UP the hill to the 13 basket turn around at the 14 tee and throw DOWN the EXACT SAME 15' WIDE FAIRWAY. And it gets better...Both tee shots are BLIND. Are you freaking kidding me??? I could be standing on the 14 tee and have no clue someone is standing on the 13 tee that I am throwing directly to. You could not manufacture a more silly safety hazard...I just don't know what in the world to say to this one. Both of these holes ought to be yanked and put somewhere else. ANYWHERE.
- The first 5 holes are bland and pedestrian. 200' shots in some tall-ish grass. Yawn.
- The #4 basket is WAY too close to the #5 fairway.
- Watch out for a wonderful tangle of hundred year old rusty barbed wire the end of the fence on #4. Yeah, thanks Hart Hydro, I had to get a tetanus shot today. >:-(
- 8, 9, 16 and 17...Welcome to the woods and poke -n- hope HELL. I'm standing on 9 and thinking, "I'm supposed to throw it 200' uphill and hit a 5' wide gap? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA guess I'm playing plinko...
- I like how the #9 basket is so close to the #8 tee that I think if you paint the putting circle for 9 the 8 tee will touch the circle. There is no good reason for this. Seriously.
- Then there's the hill from hades. Whoever laid this out obviously hates disc golfers or is a sadist with a penchant for unneeded aerobics. You go down the hill on 10. Then back UP on 11. Then DOWN and then UP on 12 because instead of putting the 13 tee sorta near the 12 basket - oh no it was put where you have to walk back up the 12 fairway and up the hill yet again because 13 is over the other side of the creek. This hill is the earthen dam that is holding back the water. It's probably 80' tall and at a 45 degree slope. Sherpas, while not required, are certainly recommended. And by the way, I'm not saying that my 46 year old knees and ankles hate you Hart Hydro...Oh wait, that's exactly what I am saying they hate you with a passion.
- First of all, after all the courses in the world that have been installed I kind of assumed that people would have learned not to design courses that have criss-crossing fairways. Wrong. 10 and 15 cross...WHY?! Welp...there's reason #1 no TD is going to touch this course with a 10-foot pole for a tourney. Check out reason #2...It's pretty sweet!
- And here's reason #2 smart TD's will never run a tourney here...13 and 14 share a fairway. Not just happen to be next to each other but you throw UP the hill to the 13 basket turn around at the 14 tee and throw DOWN the EXACT SAME 15' WIDE FAIRWAY. And it gets better...Both tee shots are BLIND. Are you freaking kidding me??? I could be standing on the 14 tee and have no clue someone is standing on the 13 tee that I am throwing directly to. You could not manufacture a more silly safety hazard...I just don't know what in the world to say to this one. Both of these holes ought to be yanked and put somewhere else. ANYWHERE.
- The first 5 holes are bland and pedestrian. 200' shots in some tall-ish grass. Yawn.
- The #4 basket is WAY too close to the #5 fairway.
- Watch out for a wonderful tangle of hundred year old rusty barbed wire the end of the fence on #4. Yeah, thanks Hart Hydro, I had to get a tetanus shot today. >:-(
- 8, 9, 16 and 17...Welcome to the woods and poke -n- hope HELL. I'm standing on 9 and thinking, "I'm supposed to throw it 200' uphill and hit a 5' wide gap? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA guess I'm playing plinko...
- I like how the #9 basket is so close to the #8 tee that I think if you paint the putting circle for 9 the 8 tee will touch the circle. There is no good reason for this. Seriously.
- Then there's the hill from hades. Whoever laid this out obviously hates disc golfers or is a sadist with a penchant for unneeded aerobics. You go down the hill on 10. Then back UP on 11. Then DOWN and then UP on 12 because instead of putting the 13 tee sorta near the 12 basket - oh no it was put where you have to walk back up the 12 fairway and up the hill yet again because 13 is over the other side of the creek. This hill is the earthen dam that is holding back the water. It's probably 80' tall and at a 45 degree slope. Sherpas, while not required, are certainly recommended. And by the way, I'm not saying that my 46 year old knees and ankles hate you Hart Hydro...Oh wait, that's exactly what I am saying they hate you with a passion.
Other Thoughts:
This course is wildly frustrating for me to rate. I just hate being the first to review this course and be such a debbie downer but hey, gotta tell it like it is. There are so many things that this course gets right and so many things it gets wrong - and I mean REALLY WRONG. For example, as I've already stated 12 is a great hole - if it's in a vacuum away from all the other absurdities. But with the back-tracking down 12 to go to 13 it really takes away the shine of that hole. And again, 13 and 14 have to be yanked right now. I just don't get with all the room to the north of the course why that wasn't used. There's plenty of room for 2 more holes there assuming the property line on the map is accurate.
And no, I'm not punching anyone. This course is just maddening and yet another reason that huckers on copious amounts of crystal should never design a course. Like, NEVER.
And no, I'm not punching anyone. This course is just maddening and yet another reason that huckers on copious amounts of crystal should never design a course. Like, NEVER.
