What a fantastic combination of long/short, simple/difficult, forehand/backhand. As a lefty, I find most courses have a definite RHBH bias, but not here. My backhand worked just fine for numerous tee shots, and the forehand was a definite must for a few others. The shorter holes all had pretty tight lines, so accuracy was a must. There are a couple of much longer holes that also required an accurate and well planned tee shot (see hole 5!). I had no problem navigating around the course at all. The signage at each hole was fine, and there's a large overview of the course layout before hole one that you can take a picture of for future reference, if need be.

I'm having a hard time coming up with anything. The only moment of difficulty I had was locating the 4th basket from the tee. You can see what turned out to be the 7th basket, and could mistake it for your target. A quick 50 foot walk out from the teepad will solve your problem

There are 4 or 5 nice courses in the Rochester area, but this is the best of them in my eyes. I've only ever played the course on weekday mornings, and have seen a total of 4 other players. I'd imagine course traffic would be much heavier on the weekend to play such a gem.

-Great course design
-Good mix of bombs and technical shots
-Quiet area
-Concrete tees

-Can be very muddy if its recently rained
-Out of the way
-Some blind shots to baskets

The Parma DGC is truly a great course. There are quite a few holes through the course that will give seasoned players a challenge, while also fogiving enough for newer players to enjoy coming out here. Located on the North West edge of Rochester, it is a fun course to try.

There are several holes that allow you to really rip it with zero chance of losing your disc. The wooded holes also give you a chance to practice your finesse game. Thankfully, this also gives newer players a chance to practice while also having a good time.

The course is laid out nicely with holes coming in and out of the woods. There is an easy flow to the entire course, but a couple tees double back, so a map would be handy if you are out for the first time. Also, if there has been a good rain recently, bring boots as there will be very deep mud in spots, particularly hole 10 and 16. Holes 5 and 7 are also blind shots to the basket, so be sure to throw an easily seen disc.

Overall, there is a reason this course is one of the highest rated in the Rochester area. With great flow and awesome holes, it is no wonder why so many people like it. Though it may be out of the way, I highly suggest taking the time to get out here.

This course has it all! Challenging, but still beginner friendly. Very well manicured. Technical wooded holes and some longer, more open par 4s. Some very unique, well designed holes you'll want to play again and again. Tees and baskets are adequate. There's a stream in play. Elevation change on a good number of holes and some well placed baskets. Each hole seems to demand something different in order to be successful. Fair for all throwing styles. Its also a very picturesque park which adds to an enjoyable day of disc golf for all.

Nothing major. The course is tough to navigate the first time you play so be sure to bring a map. Some 'next tee' signs or markers would be helpful. The course is addicting. I can't think of anything I'd want to change.

Truly exceptional course. Hole 10 is just one example of the unique and well designed holes. You will be able to improve your game by playing here since so many different shots are required. Its also a great place to try out something new on a wide, well groomed fairway with little to no chance of losing a disc. Rochester area has some high quality courses and Parma is the top of the list in my opinion. I highly recommend this course to anyone I meet.

Parma DGC is really nice. The grassy fairways (1, 10, 14), were lush and green, trimmed to perfection. There are also several wooded holes (2, 3), holes with water in play (6), and holes with a bit of elevation change (7, 11), and some with all that (9, 16). There are quite a few long holes, they tend to be more open, but still enough trees to require good throws. From the long tees, 6 holes are over 400'. Holes 4 and 5 are both over 530', the only par 4 holes on the course. The blended diversity of all of these elements is spread throughout the 18 holes very nicely. I particularly liked stream in play on hole 6 and 9. 6 has water along the entire left side, flat and drivable from the tee (333' long). 9 is more of a putter shot (242') from an elevated tee, through a gap in the trees, over the brook with a short wall on the opposite side, shielding the front of the grassy green. 10 was another fun shot, driving a stretch between two hill tops, with tall trees on both sides of a moderately wide fairway. 16 was also one of my favorites, downhill, woody, with water, around 300'. All tees were concrete, and all of the baskets were DISCatchers' in good shape. Very clean park, well kept, and utilized to maximum potential in the layout of the disc golf course.

Layout may be a little tricky, I would print a map if you don't have someone familiar with the course to help guide you. There are no major gripes for me in regards to this one. Keep your dog on a leash, Marshall said he had gotten a $200 ticket for non-compliancel.

The landscape and layout of the course is fun and challenging. I shot a 3 over par (59) my first time out, but I took a nasty roll on the steep hill where 17 basket sits. Turned a possible birdie into a bogey there. Had a great round with Mike and Marshall, who were friendly enough to let me tag along with them and show me around. I don't think the "Best of the Best" 5 star rating is appropriate, but closer to "Phenomenal" than "Very Good". The cumulative 4.3 is spot on if you ask me.

Beautiful well maintained course! This course has a nice blend of technical holes and some open. I used most of the discs in my bag! Loved it.

Only con was there was no sign to the 16th tee, had to amble around to find it and when I did, there was no hole map description on the tee. Other than that, nothing what so ever.

Will go back and play it again tomorrow now that I know the lay out. Best course I have yet to play on.

- Absolutely beautifully maintained park. Grass is always cut, trash picked up, fairways trimmed appropriately.
- Nice, long concrete tees in great condition
- Benches well placed throughout
- Nice tee signs
- Good balance of R>L and L>R shots
- Good variety in distances from ~250' ace run holes to ~450+ par 3s and a few par 4s.
- A nice mix of fairly open bombs (not completely open though - still enough trees to require good placement) to nice technical lines.
- The shorter holes do offer some ace run and birdie potential but all have enough trees that a bogie is definitely an option if you are offline and get a bad kick.
- There isn't a ton of elevation in play here but the design makes great use of the elevation that is there with the ace run shot of hole 9 being my favorite.

I feel like I'm nit-picking here, but:
- There are supposedly short tees (listed on dgcr at least) but I've never seen em.
- Navigation can be a bit tricky for a 1st time through. There are new additional next tee signs which help significantly. First time through I'd still bring a map though, just in case.

One of the things I love about this course is that when I look back to what I had used after the round I see that this course by far requires the biggest variety of discs and shots off the tee. There are discs I carry that I sometimes wonder why....but this course makes me break them out.

This one is the creme of the crop in Rochester as it has it all and does it all very well.

* Extremely well maintained. Grass is trimmed. Little if any trash.
* Signs at tees are in excellent condition and do a great job outlining each hole.
* Great mix of wide open and wooded holes.
* Great course for all playing levels. Challenging enough for the best players. Easy enough to not get beginners frustrated.
* Concrete tee boxes are great for having good footing.
* Course is absolutely beautiful!

* No arrows on baskets pointing you to the next hole. I spent a lot of time referencing the course map on my cell phone to get to the next hole.

This is the best course I have ever played. Although I'm still relatively new, this course was absolutely beautiful and fun to play. I had a blast here and wish this course wasn't so far away from me (I traveled 7 hours to play this course).

This course is hands down one of the best courses around the area. It has it all from flat open fields with randomly placed trees to through the woods up and down hills. Also a small creek that comes into play on a handful of holes to give it the competetive edge a course should have

was a little hard to navigate the first time around. some of the hills a little steep for less athletic players

could use some extra signs pointing way to next tee for new comers. some of the steeper hills could use steps

Beautiful piece of property with an amazing course designed on it. Great Hole Balance so forehand and backhand are equal. Long holes with obstacles so that on every hole accuracy is key. I love courses that balance accuracy & distance and this one does it as good as any. Shot variety is essential - I threw numerous thumbers and forehand rollers on this course and needed every shot I could think of.

Some great disc golf holes/shots that stand out:

#5 - Out of the trees through a narrow fairway, across the field through the pines & finally over the hill with a big finish to the right.
#4 - Across field to a narrow entrance into the woods. Back in the wood to a slightly elevated basket on a mound.
#1 - I loved the out of the chute in the trees and across the field & pond shot to start on #1. Only about 300' but looks a lot longer standing on the tee.
(I forget some of the other hole #'s but...)
The Hill to Hill shot across the valley is fun. You are standing at eye level to the basket but it is many feet down to where you will be playing from if you hit an early tree.

Didn't see alternate tees so it may not be very beginner friendly. If allergic to poison ivy then look out on some holes(not really a con just a warning). Watch your footing - I could be slick navigating some of the paths if wet (another warning).
Not really anything I didn't like!

This course made the Rochester Am Worlds trip worth it and it is what all course should strive to offer. Amazing design on a perfect piece of land. Would love to get back up in the area and play it again.

Short holes, long holes, tight holes, open holes, lefty holes, righty holes, concrete tee pads, quality multi-chain DISCatcher baskets, legit par 4's, OB territory... Parma has most of the ingredients of a top notch course. You better collect your birdies on the short holes because the long holes loom, handing out bogies like candy on Halloween. Hole #5 is touted as "the hardest hole in Rochester" and exemplifies this course: you have ~120' RHBH anny line to hit to get out of the trees, then ~200' of field to navigate with a few pines in the way, finally the basket is tucked away downhill on a 90 degree right turn with a wall of trees and brush guarding a straight approach. Carding a 3 on this hole is quite an achievement.

The underbrush here can get super thick which can result in lost discs. Hole #4 could lose a tree or two to open up a realistic approach line for perfectly thrown tee shot. The teebox for #7 is easily exposed to throws on hole #6. I never noticed markings for the supposed short tees. The transition from #10 to #11 is tricky.

There's an alternate version of hole #1 that plays over a pond which is used for tournaments and (a) makes the flow of the course better and (b) is just a better risk/reward golf hole. Several of the holes have been tweaked in recent years in preparation for the 2011 PDGA AM World Championships. As of this writing the course is in fantastic shape; there's not much more you could want in a challenging golf course than what Parma has to offer.

best overall course in rochester, hands down. although there are many other courses i love, this one makes the best use of land and has an excellent new layout as of last summer.
- has new cement tees in beautifully maintained park winding through two fields and woods that have some elevation changes.
- the fields and the wooded holes have no repetition, making you have to throw many different kinds of shots and giving you a great challenge.
- has 4 completely new holes with several others altered (new: 6, 11, 12, and 17).
6 goes through some trees over a winding stream to the basket not far from the water's edge; 11 is an uphill shot in the woods to a plateau with the basket protected by some small trees; 12 tees off on the edge of the woods, out over a long grass section that is o.b., across the field where the basket is in the woods with a small opening and is most likely reached by a thumber; 17 is down on the side of a ridge where the tee and the basket are on the side of the hill and the basket can be reached with a good anhyzer or sidearm
- has very memorable old holes.
have read that the original hole 1 will be used in tournaments, which involves teeing off in the woods out over a pond. On hole 4, you tee off in the field and the entrance to the fairway is several hundred feet away under a willow tree with the basket further back in the woods on a little mound. Another includes 9, where you tee off on the edge of the field, down over a plateau, over the stream and a small brick wall to the basket. There are so many others, but the last I'll describe is the valley hole, number 10, which is a short 200 something foot hole where you tee off on one side of the valley and the basket is on top of the other side.

- not much, but with all the rain we've had, some of the wooded holes are a breeding ground for mosquitoes. do NOT play this course without bug spray

this course is a must visit in rochester, along with several others. very happy to only live 10 minutes away.

I was informed that this is the up and coming masterpiece of the Rochester scene. Thats an understatement. This course while still a work in progress and missing signage and prone to navigation issues still is an unforgetable mix of perfect par 3s, interesting par 4s, bombs, and a few unique holes I have never encountered anywhere else. Despite my getting lost a handful of times the quality of design and the uniqueness of the holes kept me smiling. Usually such nuisances ruin my round and kill my mojo....no bad karma here at glad Parma. For every moment I was lost I was delighted when I encountered the next tee and all was forgiven.
A mixture of tight woods and open carpet like manicured grass lawns make for the perfect canvas. There are undulating elevation shifts in the woods that form baby valley holes, cliff tee shots, fast greens, uphill basket locations, and a massive bank in your face of one tee requiring a different tee shot. A pleasant stream that steals strokes but won't steal discs meanders through a few holes. A few strategy holes where you must execute shot to shot to score well to earn your par 4. I really liked holes 4 and 5 as you transitioned into and out of the woods on these holes and placement shots were key to get par. 5 was especially difficult with a tight line out of the woods to a gusty field and then a blind approach down a bank and to a wooded green.
12 threw from woods to field and then forced a sharp anny or a tight flick back into a woodline green.
There were 2 open holes that skirted woodlines and punished early fades harshly with either a cliff drop off or thick schule (8&13).
One completely open huge drive to a semi protected basket (14)....I think if you can provide one of these holes on every course it's a good thing.
#1 provides a choice of going R or L around a schule thicket.
#7 is a wild straight up a bank to an open fairway defined by evergreens.....seems easy but how do you tee off here?
#18 is a finsher that is attainable with a good drive but is one of those long straight open shots that if you turnover or fade your sitting behind brush and wondering why you didn'y play it a tad more conservatively.
Every shot has an element of risk and uniqueness where you could birdie or bogey based strictly on your skill and execution. A completely fair design that punishes foolish players and limits lesser players to bogey golf and rewards execution and superior skill.
Where this course really shines is in the creative and wonderful par 3s. Every Par 3 here brings different elements of danger into play with danger and reward in every shot utilizing water, elevation, tightness, fast greens, and choices to make for some of the best assortment of par 3 golf I've found on one course. All could be aced or bogeyed. These holes were the strongest element of the course.
Quite simply not a badly designed hole on the course. Every hole is either forcing you to try something unconventional, demanding you perform at your highest level or tempting you try something risky. Thats good design and my hats off to whoever came up with the concepts here.
I should add very nice new concrete tees throughout the course. Will be the jewel of the Amateur Championships in 2011.

Obviously the signage was nonexistant (but I'm sure they may still be tweaking basket positions/par and the signs will be in shortly) Problem solved when I went back to my car and got my phone and used the online map.
I really wish that the old 2 was somehow allowed to exist..a very fun looking hole
I can't bash this course it's amongst the best use of parkland and there are no activities in the areas of the park except for a few people walking dogs. You get lost in your round out there and thats a good thing.

I would have enjoyed a few more longer woods holes of the landing zone par 4 and 5 variety. Seemed the long holes were in the open and the shorter holes were all in the woods. I am a fan of throwing big tee shots through the woods. I'm not sure these woods are capable of that as they seemed less mature and perhaps the lanes just are not there.
Some tough Transitions and a simple rule of thumb is that whenever you feel lost of where to go...simply go left. Every confusing transition you will find that if you go left you will find the next tee. Oh and print out a map or have a guide. Don't let all the comments about navigation scare you away...this is the one to play in the Roc and will be for years to come.

Diversity in hole length, look, elevation, and obstacles.
Holes that can actually play as legit tournament Par 4's!! (Huge bonus)
Nice long concrete pads. Very nice baskets.
Excellent mix of shots... uphill, downhill, water hazards, hyzer, anhyzer, flex, even some places for thumbers, tomahawks and rollers.
Beautifully maintained and mowed fairways, and creative and well placed pins.

No sign-age that I could see, and the map I picked up was wrong.

Awkward navigation between a few holes (especially 1 to 2 and 6 to 7 if I remember correctly)

Some of the rough contains some nasty prickers that cut up my friend pretty badly when he tried to retrieve an errant shot.

This course is extremely well balanced. One of my biggest complaints about most courses is that I always end up throwing a Roc, Gator or Rhyno off the tee. As someone who throws to lengths of 325' with a midrange 450' with a driver I often don't get to bust out the Teebird and Boss as much as I'd like to.

Right away on hole 1 I got to drive a nice 350' hyzer skip shot for an easy deuce. Hole 2 and 3 where then a nice change of pace with much shorter distances but very tight lines to follow allowing me to throw a Roc and then a Rhyno off the tee. 4 and 5 were big time highlights for me on this course. 4 is a huge 700 ft bomb that requires an accurate drive of about 430' across a mostly open field to get to the opening of the woods. Once in the woods you still have a very tight 270' to get to the well protected and perched basket. I managed a 3 on this with a Boss, Roc and 40' jump put, though I know that I just as easily could've ended up with a 5. All it would take is one slight miscalculation. #5 is the standout hole on this course in my mind... A par 4 that depends on both finesse and accurate power to achieve a birdie. RHBH (like myself) will be forced to throw a controlled 200' anhyzer on a tight line to clear through the first section of woods. If you succeed at that you still have a difficult shot across a field with scattered obstacles and down a slight hill and to the right, tucked among trees and thorns (but with a nice 30' landing zone) is the basket. I attempted a Roc anhyzer for my second shot, but left it short, missed a 30 ft putt and took a par. Next time I think I would actually play my second shot as a Teebird skip shot (RHFH) to get it down and to the right far enough.

There are other amazing holes and fun holes at this course, but I definitely enjoyed 4 and 5 the most. As Rochester continues to get ready for AM Worlds 2011 I assume signs will go up and this course will get better and better. With a little more work This course will be a 4.5 possibly a 5.0.

UPDATE!!! Played the course after it had been all fixed up with signage for AM Worlds and it was fantastic. This is now a MUST PLAY for anyone going through the area.

Nice combination of open and wooded holes. Lots of "signature" holes, and a wide variety of right/left straight holes. The teepads are concrete and some of them are the longest I've ever seen. This is the best place around to show your stuff as each hole offers a variety of flight paths and routes. Players with strong forehand/backhand/tomahawk/thumber combinations could probably put together good rounds here.

BUGS were pretty bad, and the PRICKERS were the worst I've seen. Watch for big bushes in the fairways as these are almost completely covered in prickers. Can make retreiving a disc rather difficult.

This is in close vacinity to Baker Farm or Basil Park so you can squeeze in 2-3 rounds to make a road trip worth it.

Utilizes landscaping and elevation changes to it's maximum potential. I thought the old course was one of the most aesthetically pleasing courses, but the new layout improved the courses beauty even more.
The landscaping is very well maintained.
Great variety of holes and challenges.
Nice small town course that has become a hidden gem.
New large concrete tee pads.
All of the changes improved the course, I thought I would miss the old hole 2, but all of the new holes are better than that hole.

The only real con is navigation. There are no tee signs and no navigational signs. You have to have a guide the first time playing here or you will get frustrated.

With arrows pointing to the next tee and some decent tee signs this would have been a 5 star course.

Course had to sacrifice some beginner friendliness to create a more challenging course suitable for tournaments.

Porto-potty at hole 1.

Baker and Ellison are great, but I think Parma may have surpassed them as Rochester's best course!

The new concrete tee pads are nice they are all a good length too. The course still has a great mix of elevation. They took out three of my least fav. holes where you play three in a row with the woods to your left. Those are gone and they replaced them with holes that are more thought out and use the terrain to their advantage.

The bugs can get a lot much! Im also sure that the entire course is made out of prickers. The last thing is this course is now highly challenging witch can make it highly addictive. Since it opened two weeks ago i've played it almost every day.

This is a great course that has just gotten better. I know if you have read my last review of this course i still gave it a 4.5 i think i was misstaken. This new version of parma or NP as i now like to call it, has showed me what a 4.5 should be.

New concrete tee pads, are in and done very well. Some new pin placement has changed the map of the course, so to get the current one, go to Rochester disc golf club page, and download the color map, which seems to be up to date. Short drive from Rochester. Good variety of holes, open and wooded. Well maintained grounds. A must play.

Bugs! Some signage would help a great deal for first timers, although the map is pretty good.

My new favorite course in the Rochester area.

excellent mix of holes. long, short, open, wooded, uphill, downhill, left, right.

home to some very cool holes such as hole #7 which drives steep uphill which is great for tomahawks and rollers, hole #9, starts high and drives down through a small opening over a creek, hole #10 which drives through a small valley.

baskets remain in year round, very fun course to play in the winter.

brand new concrete and a new revamp is the icing on the cake.

lots of bugs in the wooded areas especially in the summer months. definitely throw a can of bug spray in your bag for this time of year.

be careful of the rough areas. lots of pricker bushes throughout and some poison ivy in the woods.

can be very confusing for someone who has never played here before

This course is a blast! lots of risk/reward opportunities.

With the revamp this is easily the most challenging course in the area.

Several other courses are within 20 minutes of here for a second round.