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Westminster Park DGC

3.365(based on 7 reviews)
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dndelli
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Experience: 16.8 years 134 played 131 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Westminster Park DGC

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 20, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

Located in Westminster Park, which is an outreach of the Westminster Presbyterian Church, is this beautiful course that features a healthy mixture of open, semi open, and wooded holes. The course features nice Innova DISCatcher baskets, well designed tee signs, long tees made of leveled astro-turf and short natural tees marked with Innova tee markers.

For a park with so much open space, it would have been easy to just slap some baskets and tees down out in the field and call it a day, but some serious thought went into trying to make a balanced course. This was done by making good use of the elevation on the property. Well placed baskets that make players consider landing angles/speed control and plenty of fun downhill bombs really stood out. Hole 5 was likely the hidden gem among the whole course. It twisted it's way uphill a decent amount of elevation, creating a memorable Par 4.

The basket locations also utilized elevation well. In fact, the basket locations in general seemed well thought out and it was plain to see that some serious thought went into where the baskets locations. For instance, my card noted that on a lesser course, the basket for Hole 4, which is a long Par 5, probably would have been placed in the middle of the fairway behind the last tree in the fairway, but it was instead tucked off to the left on a slope between a handful of other trees. Holes 7 & 12 even have elevated baskets to spice things up. Hole 12's is particularly memorable because of its relation to the tree it is next to.

The maintenance on the course seemed immaculate. The grassy fairways were all neatly groomed, even the slightly long grass on the steep downhill shot on Hole 15 wasn't unruly. It can be frustrating to play a grassy course with weeds popping up everywhere, so this was a nice surprise. As an added bonus, while we were finishing up our round, a groundskeeper (or maybe just someone who does work around the park) was out doing more maintenance around Holes 17/18, which already looked perfect from my perspective. He was a very nice person, and it was clear, he and the entire team took a lot of pride in the course from our brief conversation.

Navigation around the course was very well marked. The only time our group got turned around at all, was when we got complacent, but every basket had a next tee sign on it, and longer transitions even had more signs pointing you in the right direction.

Outside of the disc golf course, the park also features a driving range for warming up/field work, and a six hole ace run course, that can serve as a spicier putting warm-up. There are multiple athletic fields, a picnic pavilion, a fire pit area, multiple trails, a ropes course, and a kayak/canoe launch onto the Catawba River.

Cons:

While I think every hole on the course is well designed, I personally think there was a missed opportunity with the wooded holes, where they could have demanded more out of players in terms of shot shaping. Pretty much all of them can be reached for a birdie putt by throwing a dead straight shot.

Speaking of wooded holes, Hole 13 felt unnecessarily gimmicky. While the other wooded holes were certainly tight and punishing, they also felt fair/rewarding.I could be in the minority, but I personally would love to see Hole 13 be opened up a bit, and maybe lengthened so that the basket was pushed up the hill. Possibly far enough to create a Par 4. It would create another uphill hole, shorten the transition between 13 & 14, potentially add another Par 4, and drastically change what I can only imagine is the most disliked hole on the course.

There is a distinct lack of benches and trash cans on the course. I don't think either one is necessary for a good course, but I do believe a handful of benches at the wooded tees would be appreciated for people to take breaks and escape the heat on sunny days after walking up and down all the hills.

I also would have loved to see the short pads actually have pads like the ones from the longs. I feel like a mix between the two layouts would make the perfect after work course to just have a relaxing round, without taking too much time.

Other Thoughts:

I had a lot of fun playing at Westminster Park and am super thankful the course didn't fall into the same common pitfalls many open courses seem to fall into. It is definitely a welcome addition to the Rock Hill landscape of disc golf and is a course I can definitely see myself trying to visit more often. For now I'll be giving Westminster Park a 3.5 rating, but it honestly feels like it is on the precipice of deserving a higher rating. It would probably only take a small tweak or two to really bump this course over the edge.

Favorite Holes: 5, 11, 15, & 18
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Mike C
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Experience: 15.1 years 168 played 74 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A welcome addition to the area drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 27, 2023 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

- 18 hole course with a mix of open and wooded shots, with elevation in play on most holes. Superb variety. Some holes are wide open bombers, while others are tightly wooded fairways with 10-20' wide gaps to hit.

- Lots of memorable holes. #1 is a short tunnel shot straight ahead, but with drastic downhill elevation in play. #15 is a mostly open 450' rip that's downhill. #18 is a gorgeous downhill wooded shot with a fairway that can be tackled rhfh or rhbh.

- Two sets of tees with the lines for both clearly marked on each tee sign.

- 6 hole ace race course next to the parking lot, perfect as a quick warm-up before your round.

- Driving range with 100' increments marked by large rocks. It's a little under 600' long, so all but the biggest of arms will be well accommodated.

- One of the only windy courses in the charlotte area. Most charlotte courses play through woods that block the worst of wind, and don't teach players how to manage a stiff breeze. This course will help develop wind management skills better than the charlotte courses will.

- Yellow flags on top of most, if not all baskets. These are nice for spotting pins your first time playing.

- Very pretty property with all other activities off the course. The disc golf course is its own thing, you won't be throwing over shared use walking paths or throwing near playgrounds. Everything else the park offers is located away from the disc golf course. That being said I did see a guy on horse back paul revere his way across hole #8 as I teed up - no clue what that was about.

Cons:

- Some holes feel a little too open and plain. #17 long once you punch out of the woods is a pretty boring open field shot. #7 feels a little uninspired - more could have been done here.

- Navigation issues. Refer to your map. Walking to hole #8 after #2 feels more logical than the path to #3. Couple confusing turns in the woods as well.

- Not a fan of holes #12 & 13. 12 doesn't feel like it has a well defined fairway to the basket, and #13 felt like a pure gimmick to me. Contrast these with #11, which is one of the tightest fairways on the course, but it has a clearly defined fairway. I ended up throwing a forehand roller on 12 & 13 my first round, as both had very tight fairways that felt risky to attempt with an air shot.

- #6 and #7 are pretty plain too. #6 is a pretty plain 200' poke through some trees, a hole I've seen a hundred times before. #7 had a chance to be epic but it ended up just being a wide open 400' shot to an elevated basket. I felt like #7 had all the things needed to be a signature hole, but they went too short with the final gold tee design.

- #15 long is another hole that would have felt much more epic if it were extended another 50'. As it stands it's a 450' par 3 that plays more like 400' given the elevation drop.

Other Thoughts:

This is a very good course that contrasts nicely with the tightly wooded charlotte area courses. This is the exact type of course the area lacks, so it's a very welcome addition to the charlotte scene.

I found the holes more diverse and creative than Frank Liske, the other notable open 18 hole course in the area. Westminster feels more like a legit golf course while some holes at Frank Liske suffer from feeling like plain open field shots - because they are.

This is a very complete package with an 18 hole course with two tees, ace race beginner level course, and driving range. It's easy to make a day of your trip here.

The hole distances listed on DGCR for the long tees are flat out wrong. #15 for example is a 450' downhill shot, not 515'. #17 is 640' from longs, not 319'. #18 is 372' from longs, not 600'+. Trust the tee signs.

This is a destination level course playing from the longs. I have not thrown the shorts so I cannot comment on those.

The current rating for this course is much lower than it deserves. It's new so it's not as well known as renny gold or hornets nest, but its a gem that deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as charlottes best offerings. I would not hesitate to suggest going out of your way to play here.
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DavidSauls
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Experience: 28.9 years 131 played 68 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A bit of woods, a bit of open

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 23, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

A pretty fun course that weaves between open, very hilly areas, and some beautiful hardwood forests. The routing is in-and-out of the different areas, so you get to switch back and forth between unleashing long shots, and threading trees. Lots of elevation change throughout. Hole lengths vary greatly, too, with some a little over 200', some 600' or more, including some long uphill holes that play much longer than their measurements.

The atmosphere is great. A beautiful park, with the disc golf area pretty much exclusive to disc golf.

Cons:

A couple of the woods holes are severely tight.

No benches (which would be nice after climbing some of those hills).

Navigation tricky in places. A few baskets have a "next basket" arrow, but only a few, and a maze of paths sometimes had us heading in the wrong direction.

Other Thoughts:

Some of the earlier reviews indicate that it's a temp course, but apparently it's permanent now. Teepads, signs, and baskets are all in place.
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EarthRocker
Experience: 52 played 2 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Nice To Have Choices

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 26, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

Beautiful spot for a course. Rolling hills and manicured grass are always a plus.
Feels completely secluded from the world, but it's just a few steps from Camp Canaan, and maybe 10 minutes from Boyd Hill and Winthrop.
Almost completely deserted. It was a very cold day. There were a few golfers, and a few casual dog-walkers. Other than that, it was peaceful and us-against-the-world, all the way through the round.
Just fun golf. Nothing too stressful or difficult. Very few places to lose a disc, aside from some water on a cool par 4 on the front side. (I think it was the front side. I didn't take notes.)

Cons:

Benches and trash cans would be nice, but are hardly deal-breakers. Pack it in and pack it out - easy. There is a clean restroom building just a hundred yards downhill from the pavilion, which structure does have trash containers and a lot of picnic tables. Hole 1 begins, and Hole 18 ends, right underneath it.
Natural tee pads for the moment. We saw exactly one unnatural one, which seemed to made of a plastic material that wasn't very grippy, so we just stayed off of it. Everywhere else was grass/packed dirt. On a dry day, no worries at all. I'd be singing a different tune if it had been even a little wet out there.

Other Thoughts:

I mainly started this review to let people know that as of Christmas 2022, the baskets are in place and the course is good to go for play. We played Boyd Hill early in the day, and grabbed some food on the way to Westminster, without knowing a thing about its current state or layout. While there were a few places where we spun around in circles to figure out where to go for the next tee shot, it wasn't *that* hard to get headed in the right direction. Surely some "Nex-T" arrows will be considered if it's going to be a permanent installation. We did notice that none of the baskets were anchored at this time. I assume it's so they can tweak it a bit as time goes on, to maximize the course's potential and the experience. Pure conjecture, that.

Hole 1 definitely sets the fun selector on GO, and throughout the round, there are quite a few moments where you think, "This looks like it'll be a blast." (I'm not as picky as some people are about design and par-fairness, or any of that. It pleases my eye, and it's clean and serene - that's really all I need. It's more about being happy to be playing Disc Golf somewhere nice than it is about comparing it to anywhere else.) To me each course should stand on its own - and this one does.
Plenty of opportunities to crank a nice long drive, but nothing too lengthy. We don't have a ton of courses in CLT that are this forgiving, so it's a nice break from threading needles all day. Momma didn't raise a seamstress, dagnabbit...
This course is a solid addition to our ever-growing SC list of fun tracks to run. Next time you're headed to Rock Hill, make time to play it. A 3.0 rating is very fair, but I would stress that my rating would go straight to a 3.75 if it had tee pads and a few benches interspersed among all the physical beauty of the place.
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Shadrach3
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Experience: 5.6 years 319 played 312 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Has Hills 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 5, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

A more open course with good elevation that needs some issues addressed. Note that this is a temporary course, and as such the particulars of this review could change should the course have future iterations.

-Amenities: Plastic matting tees that would be good if they were oriented correctly, DISCatchers, tee signs with number, distance, and par.

-Elevation: The distinguishing factor of the course as is. Westminster has a near-continuously changing landscape, with quite a few holes playing substantial, if not shocking, elevation. The boring holes are more interesting for this, and the all-star holes invariably use it to full effect.

-Flow: Good flow without doubling back or any overly long transitions.

-Shot Shaping/Gameplay: More open than not, with a few fantastic holes. A "typical" hole is mostly open with a guarded basket, initial gap, or tree line on one side of the fairway. The all star holes are (1), (6), (15), and (18), which use elevation and trees to create memorable lines - a downhill tunnel par-3, an uphill right then downhill left par-4, a sweeping and eagleable drive, and then a challenging woods drive leading to a cliff shot into the wooded green. Mixed in with these are holes ranging from good to boring, with a good number of par-4s.

-Potential: This property could deliver a killer course. There are plenty of untouched woods out here, lots more space, and some water that could possibly be incorporated as well.

Cons:

-Temp Nature: The course is probably down by now. In speaking to the ROAR Sports people who make things happen on the property, it seemed unlikely to go permanent for several reasons.

-Tees: The rubber matting was rotated 90° from correct, which made them super slippery. A majority of shots on the card teed from the side or behind, and I can say that the tees significantly degraded my experience out here. On the bright side, TDs realized the problem before start time and added flags to create a natural space next to each tee, so if the course comes back I suspect the mistake won't be repeated.

-Boring Stretches: The (8)-(9) and (12)-(14) stretches are pretty dull, with a lot less shaping involved. They definitely feel like they're pulling the course back. I was asking, "What's next?" on these, instead of enjoying them.

-Faulty Lines: Suspect design on (7) and (17), which really didn't have a believable route through all of the trees. My card all threw total luck shots and didn't have a single birdie putt among us. I also didn't like the tree placements on (13), as I felt that they were more luck than skill.

Other Thoughts:

With fixed tees, I think Westminster is a pretty solid tweener between 3.0 and 3.5. Holes like (18) are the stuff of legends, but shots like (12) are more bland than unseasoned chicken and rice. With the atrocious tee situation, it's an easy decision to call it a 3.0. Perhaps locals will express interest and this course could get more attention - if so, it will likely be well worth a good drive to play.

Enjoyed my round here with diamond TRs Olorin, DiscGolfCraig, and Bennybennybenny. It was neat to exchange notes and now see the differences in our reviews all next to each other!
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DiscGolfCraig
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Experience: 20 years 602 played 545 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Westminster TDGC

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 5, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

It goes without saying that temporary courses are different from regular courses. They lack some of the features of a regular, permanent course we've grown accustomed to. The biggest difference is that by the time this course is back in the ground, there's a good chance some or all of it will look different.
- Course is a nice weaving layout through a large portion of the park. For such a large park, it doesn't get much foot traffic. So the disc golf is a nice, secluded round of throwing and missed putts.
- Some nice elevation layouts. #1 is a fun, gauntlet-esque downhill hole. It's probably the best tee shot on the course unless you like big bomber, downhill throws (#15). #6 is a quality, steep uphill par 4. You need a quality, well placed tee shot throwing uphill if you want to make a run at a birdie 3 on this layout. Finally, #8 is the other open, easy downhill tee shot for those who like cheap thrills.
- Some good shot shaping layouts. #3 - 5 all have weaving fairways requiring you to hit gaps (to varying degrees). This was hands down my favorite stretch of holes on the course with #4 being another solid, multi-shot par 4.
- Great scenery. Course plays in the rolling hills of a privately owned park. Other than the sound of a twin prop plane flying overhead or cars driving into the park (when playing holes near the round), this a peaceful, feels far from Charlotte locale.
- Quality use of limited resources. Playing in a foursome of Diamond TRers, we all made note of how certain holes would be much better if it could be lengthened, moved into the woods, and/or had some trees cut down. Obviously, that's not happening for a course that's in the ground for several weeks. Still, the layout in and of it self didn't seem that much different from plenty of permanent courses I've played.
- The course ends on distinguishable, if not completely great ending. The final 4 holes each have a distinguishing aspect to them. #15 is the open field, downhill bomber hole. There was some frustration being unleashed in the tee shots in our group. #16 is another quality, tree-lined, very birdie-able par 3. It does help when you don't gag a 12-foot birdie putt. #17 is the 'good idea, I see what you tried for, but it didn't quite work' hole. In a permanent setting, with a couple trees thinned out, I think this could be an outstanding layout. It just didn't quite work. But, at least it's memorable.
- Then you end on #18, the best overall quality hole on the course. At 602 feet, it's the longest on the course. The first section is uphill with tree lined fairways and a somewhat low-ish ceiling. Keep it in the fairway, and you get past the short tee (357 feet). From there, the hole opens up and drops off into a valley in the woods. A long, straight tee shot, and this is an easy par 3. Or, be like me, hit every tree, and take 3 shots to get to the drop off into the woods. Pointing being, it doesn't take much to see scores from three to six on an outstanding closing hole.
- The park is owned by Westminster Presbyterian Church. You can read my review for their short school course here - https://www.dgcoursereview.co...&mode=rev#86754

Cons:

I think every single con is related can be filed under temporary course. I fully recognize each one of these issues is an issue for a logical reason. Mainly...don't disturb anything in the park / leave a minimal footprint.
- Poor, uneven, inconsistent tees. Guys in our group found it more beneficial to tee off alongside the tees.
- Poor signage. If you play(ed) this blind, and didn't use the UDisc map, good luck finding the tee on #4, 6, 9, etc. Prepare for a ton of extra walking. Also, transitions arrows would exist as well.
- Some holes won't make the cut in a permanent layout. Several clear filler holes. #8, 9, 11, 12, & 14 all easily would be eliminated, combined, or redesigned. All are straight and/or open shots. A bunch of simple pars (at worst) with varying degrees of birdie chances depending on one's distance.
- #7. In it's current incarnation, it's a poor man's version of Winthrop Lakefront #16. If it's permanent, you know a tree or two will be cleared out to create more natural flight paths.
- Lots of unused, higher quality disc golf land. The park is next to Camp Canaan. This course has enough terrain to create a similar level of course should one be desired.
- No benches or trashcans on the course itself. However, the large Innova signs won't there either. So it's a trade off.

Other Thoughts:

This felt like playing a course that wasn't complete. That, or playing a private course where the owner's didn't want to, or couldn't, do a lot of clearing. You're mind races to the potential of due to some outstanding genetics. It's like seeing a hot girl who dresses modestly.
- I think everyone knows improvements would be made if a permanent course does exist. Let's hope the park owners think the same way.
- The gate closes automatically at 6. Not sure if an announcement is made prior to closing. Sadly, I didn't see anyone griping on the local club's FB pages about people getting locked in.
- My gut says there won't be a permanent course installed, at least without some concessions. This is a church owned 320-acre park. I see its long term existence being closer to that of Camp Canaan by having either limited hours and/or pay to play.
- With lots of open fields and rolling hills, this course could easily be stretched out. For example, combine #9 & 10, now you've got a longer, tougher, uphill par 4. You could do the same with #1 &2, 4 & 5, 16 & 17 amongst other spots. Basically, it wouldn't take much to turn this into an 8-9K foot, par 62 - 65 layout.
- We'll see if this layout makes a return. Otherwise, this was essentially a pointless review as it's not helping a single person.
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Bennybennybenny
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Experience: 13.2 years 306 played 288 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Hope To See It Again Soon 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 2, 2022 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Disclaimer: Course is unfortunately pulled as of now. There's a possibility that it will be permanent in the foreseeable future.

-Westminster to me, was better than the other courses in Rock Hill. In regards to appeal, I enjoyed it more than I enjoy Canaan. Westminster had a better mix of elevation than Boyd, Winthrop, or Canaan and it gave an interesting mix of shots without being too over the top. It almost feel like a hybrid golf course but in actuality, there's just a ton of open space that is used wisely. The wooded holes, for the most part were very attackable with some scoring separation.

-Had four par fours with different aspects. #4 was flat down a meadow with a creek on the right side and a long line of trees to the left that has you entering a wide gap where the basket is outside of. #6 was sharply uphill and to the right side. Gave plenty of room to bite off the right side and have a chance for a shorter upshot. The hole was open, but woods on both sides were very rough. #15 was a big downhill bomb that was maybe 35' down in elevation. Only 519'. I threw many drivers off of this pad. However, I think #18 was the best of the par fours. It was the longest hole (over 600'). The tee pad was in a field facing a small corridor in the woods that takes you back downhill down a gorgeous trail. The short pad was enjoyable too, being 357' on top of the hill in the woods. The long pad was pretty intimidating, because the gap to hit was pretty small. There was a left route that gave an anhyzer option, but it was a tougher route to hit because of the thickness of woods on the left.

-It started with a bang too on #1. That was a superb starter. Steep downhill tunnel shot onto a green in the open. It was tricky being dead straight and down a tighter fairway, but it was rewarding toward accurate players. You could throw short and have a putter skip 50' forward due to the elevation. It was more than 30' below.

-Lot of people loved #16. The straight tunnel shot beside the gravel road. It was 236'. Fairway was wide enough to make you feel confident about being able to birdie, but it was also tight enough to scare you in going OB left or kicking a bad tree to the right side.

-Atmosphere was pleasant. At Winthrop, you constant have to yield to pedestrians or sunbathers. Boyd is in a rough neighborhood. Westminster was very tranquil being on church property. It was calm and peaceful and gave that escape from reality feeling. The atmosphere at Westminster was up there with Camp Canaan. Brings me to say, Camp Canaan is very close to Westminster.

-Not really relevant now, since it is pulled but there were tee pads and tee signs. I guess you can count on seeing that the next time this course is put in.

Cons:

-A couple of wide open fillers. #12 sticks out. It was 358' and bland. #8 was wide open too, but was off an elevated pad and was over 400'. Hole #7 was a kill joy. It was a scruffy 193' anhyzer in the woods down a measly fairway. I played with Shadrach3, DiscGolfCraig, and Olorin in that charity event. We all agreed that this hole was probably the worst.

-#17 was unique beside of the basket placement. It was right beside an old tree with a wide limb span consisting of many trunks that make for a difficult putt. The tee shot was through a gap less than 10' wide that was at least 40' past the pad. I thought the tee shot for #17 was pretty irritating.

-Wind played as a pretty big factor in the amateur tournament since it's pretty open. Gameplay seems to be more dependent on wind conditions. I shot eleven under the first time I played here. In the charity event, I shot only one under because it was pretty windy. Looking at the tournament results, even was over 940 rated one round. The first time I played when I shot -11, I would've guessed even to be around 900.

Other Thoughts:

-Hope a permanent courses comes here someday. There were a few holes that I didn't enjoy, but I enjoyed most of them. It was a great middle ground between Winthrop and Boyd. Not completely open and had some longer holes. One thing I would've loved to see would've been holes #9 and #10 combined together as one hole. #9 was an uphill hyzer around a wooded line. #10 was further up the hill with the tee pad being around 350' straight ahead of #9's tee pad. #10 was a straight par three into the woods. If those two holes were combined, this would've been an epic dogleg right par four in the open that would allow you to rip a driver far up the hill and have a possible look at the woods. This would've been a similar fairway to #6, but it would've been longer and would've been wooded for the last 100' or so.

-You could really taste that Rock Hill flavor on this property. It's in that pleasant rural area that you tend to see when you drive in this town. If it ever becomes permanent, then Westminster will be that middle ground 18 hole course that Rock Hill really needs. It had more to offer than Winthrop and Boyd. A lot will disagree with me here, but I think Westminster had better quality than Canaan too. Canaan is a scenic course with some excellent holes, but to me it is a little too fickle with all the elevated baskets raising the roll away potential, and some of the fairways are very strange with extreme consequences for missing. Westminster was rewarding and had a better mix overall. Canaan has many par fours and fives and some sweet hazards, Westminster had elevation, woods, easy holes, tough holes, and fairways that were demanding with some consequences, but nothing too extreme. Water doesn't really come to play, but maybe it could if this course ever comes back. I know for sure that there is room for longer holes.
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