Pro Tour Live Coverage

[dorseymatt]

FPO R2 B9:

They fixed the A/V sync issue!

They literally showed hole 12 twice and omitted hole 13!!! And the commentators are like WTF?!? It was LOL-funny.

 

[XC_Eddy]

Regardless of motivation, regardless of benefit, regardless of revenue, it is still free to me. Yes, everything in life has the cost of time and forgone opportunities, if that is anyone's point. I was taught to be appreciative when people give me stuff.

When grandma gave a young ru4por a cookie, I was not allowed to go to the rest of the family and complain that it had nuts. I took it, gave grandma a kiss and gave the cookie to my sister on the sly. (she loves nuts) Shrug, maybe we all come from different walks in life.

I agree with the concept in principle, and was also taught gratitude growing up, but the relationship I have with my grandma and the relationship I have with Steve Dodge are not the same. The difference is that my Grandma wasn't trying to make money off my love of cookies.

 

[ru4por]

I agree with the concept in principle, and was also taught gratitude growing up, but the relationship I have with my grandma and the relationship I have with Steve Dodge are not the same. The difference is that my Grandma wasn't trying to make money off my love of cookies.

True. There is a difference in the motivation of the giver. But, does that entitle me to judgement with my gratitude? Maybe. I don't see it that way, but others may think that if the giver is benefiting, then the gift has strings. Though it might be said that all gifts come with a benefit. I derive great joy at giving someone something for free.

Time for MPO. Nice conversation fellas. I am not sure I am going to see it all the way that some others do, but that's ok.

 

[toddnick]

FPO

Also just watched FPO round 2...showing hole 11 twice and then on to 13 is a major gaffe...this is post-production...no excuse...this is so far below the current standard with Jomez and CCDG...

 

[cheesethin]

So do you think we'll have to spend the rest of the year with this coverage or maybe they'll say..."hey guys our bad, let's get the post production crews back out here!"

It is possible that the sponsors will push back against the poor coverage if viewership remains reduced. Part of the plan for bringing media in house was because of conflict over having different & competing title sponsor and coverage sponsor - with past DGPT events you could have an Innova sponsored event with CCDG/Jomez produced coverage sponsored by Discraft. If the DGPT have sold the title sponsors on the idea that all those lovely eyeballs will now only see their name (and possibly increased the sponsorship amount based on that idea) - to then drastically reduced the number of eyeballs might remove any intended gain.

I don't know whether viewing numbers has any impact for the TD & the tournament itself. (My understanding is that tournaments agree to become a DGPT event and this brings them benefits.)

 

[cheesethin]

Disagree completely.

When they say "We are confident that the efficiencies created by our new media team structure and technology will allow us to create high-quality disc golf media right out of the gate" it's completely fair to criticize their first attempt.


https://www.dgpt.com/news/media-plan-part-2

Guess I do. Even having read that, I'm not going to expect that from second one of the first broadcast, everything is going to go off without a hitch and be perfect. That's insane and unrealistic. And I pity people who go through life with those kinds of expectations...they're going to be constantly disappointed.

Whatever negativity I'm feeling is based on a deeply held dislike of salesman/corporate speak bul****tery - coupled with poor project management/delivery.

 

[JC17393]

It is possible that the sponsors will push back against the poor coverage if viewership remains reduced. Part of the plan for bringing media in house was because of conflict over having different & competing title sponsor and coverage sponsor - with past DGPT events you could have an Innova sponsored event with CCDG/Jomez produced coverage sponsored by Discraft. If the DGPT have sold the title sponsors on the idea that all those lovely eyeballs will now only see their name (and possibly increased the sponsorship amount based on that idea) - to then drastically reduced the number of eyeballs might remove any intended gain.

I don't know whether viewing numbers has any impact for the TD & the tournament itself. (My understanding is that tournaments agree to become a DGPT event and this brings them benefits.)

Remains to be seen on the post-produced viewcounts, but they're at 5000 viewers right now on the live. That seems in line with past numbers as far as I recall. Or put another way, that's not a noticeable drop in viewers for round three on a Saturday afternoon/evening.

 

[tomdizzlefizzle]

Whatever negativity I'm feeling is based on a deeply held dislike of salesman/corporate speak bul****tery - coupled with poor project management/delivery.

There's probably a drug they can prescribe you to forget that negativity man. You're the problem.

 

[cheesethin]

Remains to be seen on the post-produced viewcounts, but they're at 5000 viewers right now on the live. That seems in line with past numbers as far as I recall. Or put another way, that's not a noticeable drop in viewers for round three on a Saturday afternoon/evening.

Yes, I can believe that the live coverage figures would be comparable quickly. Post production figures, it will be interesting to see how they grow over time. The Jomez R1F9 2018 Memorial coverage is at 112k views. Probably some repeat views in there. In terms of ad revenue/sponsorship, makes me think post production is where it's at. Is live coverage a long term investment?

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[cheesethin]

.... You're the problem.

Why thank you. XX



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[AndyJB]

I feel like if they hadn't hyped up the coverage to use disc golf diehards, it might be more well received. Are we the target audience though? Or is Dodge still trying to draw in casual viewers?

 

[BrotherDave]

Man, these guys are rubbish at following a disc with a camera.

 

[Chee]

I've only been watching the post round stuff, no live, but there are definitely me hiccups. I'm honestly just glad to have coverage, but the commentary is delayed or ahead, the amount of time they zoom on the back of throwers head is odd and they outright miss shots. I'm still watching and enjoying, but it's not up to the standards of jomez or ccdg.

Also, ulibarri absolutely, risley no thank you.

 

[XC_Eddy]

People either love Risley or think he's the worst commentator ever. At least he isn't forgettable.

 

[Orioles_Lefty]

I'm not watching because I've bought the apologies for Steve's decision as "a business decision" and think poorly operating businesses should fail. You know, nothing personal. Just business.

 

[McCready]

Holy cow! The posters on Reddit are savages compared to DGCR.

But they are very funny savages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/awb5v7/steve_dodges_downfall/


This caption generator video might have more views and shares than yesterday's DGPT coverage.

Crying

 

[Jimb]

I know Mr. Mcfly did a lot of the zooming in on putters that looked nice, but really threw off my depth perception. (Someone please remind me of the term for this.)

These camera operators are doing it a lot, too, or maybe even more so or more exaggerated. I don't like it and I think it threw off the announcers, too. I think it was Paul who mentioned the camera angle and said a putt was about 25'. Well, Stoole (sp?) took five normal steps to the basket from his lie to retrieve his disc. That's probably 15' or less. Just a thought.

And the audio lag is bad. When the putt has chained out and the crowd has reacted, it's just strange to hear the announcer's reactions a few seconds later.

Overall, I agree with others. The coverage quality of round two was definitely better. If they can improve like this twice more, then round four should be pretty solid.

 

[DavidSauls]

Overall, I agree with others. The coverage quality of round two was definitely better. If they can improve like this twice more, then round four should be pretty solid.

If they're improving on the fly, that's good. And wouldn't be unexpected, this being their first run.

I'd hope and expect that they'd really improve between events, when they have time to review what they've done and learn from mistakes. Particularly on glitches (audio sync, bedsheets, etc.).

 

[brutalbrutus]

Lets see how they handle the dead zone at Waco...

 

[tbird888]

I'm not watching because I've bought the apologies for Steve's decision as "a business decision" and think poorly operating businesses should fail. You know, nothing personal. Just business.

Isn't this the last of the operating pro tours? Be careful what you wish for. I guess you don't remember what video coverage was like when it was just the NT.

Dodge is hardly the first person to over-promise and under-deliver, and he won't be the last. Give him a couple events to figure it out. While the coverage has hardly been on par with post production coverage the difference between day one and yesterday was pretty big. He's obviously making strides to improve ASAP.

There seem to be a lot of people in here who have never made a single mistake in their lives. You can all say you're providing valuable feedback, but you're just bitching on a forum. If you want to actually provide feedback, give it where it'll have value, on the DGPT website.