7ontheline
Double Eagle Member
I picked up a MS in the base millennium plastic, hoping it would fly like a beat Roc off the shelf. They are nice and flat and feel great in the hand, but they are a bit more stable and less glidey than I expected. I'm assuming they'll beat in to to that beat Roc slot, but a regular DX Roc will also beat in to that beat Roc slot, so I'm not sure I'll end up using this disc.
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AMS take a while to beat into turnovers. Millennium's base plastic, which is Innova's Pro plastic, is a lot more durable than a DX Roc but they fly in those sweet spots for much longer.
If you want there are a ton of understable molds nowadays. You might want to try a meteor or something that's not designed to be stable. Also, DX is glidy and goes far. Don't expect any premium plastic to have the grip and glide of a DX version where available.
I liken the MS to a blade wedge in ball golf. Hit it right and it's a thing a beauty. Roc is a little more forgiving with its added stability like a cavity back design. Nose angle are less important to determining where the disc will go.
Anyway, there is a lot of overlap in flight during a discs life cycle and there are trade offs like durability, grip, and glide from plastic types and feel like rim depth and bead vs no bead.
Finally, hardly any of the cool kids throw DX Rocs anymore