Took me 3 years. When I did get my ace, I wasn't even trying, I was just trying to land near the basket, on a spike hyzer, on a blind hole. Here is a pic of the hole I got my first ace on. You can't even see the basket. I threw a spike hyzer around the right side, and I just heard it slam the chains. I thought it blew through, till I walked up and saw the disc in the basket: