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I can BARELY break 300'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvz6Jdm4QPM

Here I am trying to stay more upright and relaxed, and get taller in the backswing. I also am trying out a narrower stance to address the first two points.

I'm not sure I fully understand the 3rd point however. Could you explain more what you mean by my pelvis tipping over? Also I was trying to not rotate back and have my left shoulder reverse direction in the the throw, but this feels like its pulling me too far over my plant leg.
 
That looks way better! You should feel the swing pulling you over the front leg, and you need to brace up against it like olympic hammer thrower to repel the disc away from your center.

You are spinning on your front toes instead of your pivoting on your heel. If you just stand balanced on the front leg and lift your toes slightly inside your shoe and take a swing, the swing should pull your front foot into heel pivot passing over front foot. Your rear foot is also spinning out, looks like you are trying to push too late or push through the swing instead of shifting the hips forward into the plant before the swing.

If you look at the last frame of the pic your rear hip is pushed higher than your front hip, instead of rear hip swinging freely underneath a posted up front hip with rear foot deweighted or detached from ground.
Rocking the hips: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134329


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ec_oNt1Dgw

Alright well some interesting and also frustrating things happened today. When I first stepped up into my field and threw, I had been practicing the new feel just around the office and I felt like really did a good throw. It wasn't the furthest ever, but the distance to effort ratio was way way better. I wish I was recording for that first one. After that I think I started to think about distance again and I started going back into my old form.

After about 3 different videos I focused really hard on just doing the relaxed upright weight shift and throwing as effortlessly as I could. I feel like my first actual throw in the video was decent, as I was relaxed. Then on the second throw I reverted back a bit and tried too hard, and you can really see the difference in the video. I just went in at this point as I had been out there an hour. Let me know what you see!
 
Your swing is very downward with the disc nose up. McBeth would say to start the lawn mower instead of turning on the ceiling fan.

You want to move everything more forward onto the front leg and keep your elbow up/out during the forward swing, don't let it drop or shoulder collapse. The upper arm shouldn't really move during the swing, only the lower arm swinging the disc in/out of your center.

I would like to see your left shoulder/arm going over the front foot on your pre-swings. Don't worry if you have to take a step with it. You are stopping short.
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Do it in slow motion, the slower the better. Forget about arm speed or hip speed - slow motion drill is also known as the concentration drill. Your body/butt/left shoulder/arm, should be moving/leveraging your swing shoulder/arm/disc unit - at any speed. Your left arm should be pulling your body/CoG to the target in the finish at any speed and should feel your chest being pulled upright on front leg to target by it.

In the finish your chest should be completely pointed at the target and you should be looking at the target standing up on the front leg with rear tippy toes only on ground, heel straight up.

Swing Drill setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IFO7J3AV5Y#t=5m
Swivel Chair left shoulder/arm finish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvvF6eW-by8#t=8m
Address & Finish position: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134167

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Alright so this isn't a slow motion drill, and I can definitely do another video of that if needed, but I think I may have figured something out. I have been doing practice throws inside, and I found that if I focus on starting the throw by putting my hips in the right place (over the plant leg) and then just try to throw by rotating my hips from there, it seems like my feet are doing the right thing.

I also found that by doing this, bringing my back arm into my body no longer feels wrong or hard to do, and that when I do it at the right time, it feels like its throwing more weight into the swing. It also feels a lot easier to have my back hip feel like its coming underneath the right hip instead of tipping over.

Now of course when I got out into the field nothing felt as crisp as I was getting it inside, but I feel like this may be a step in the right direction. I know the throw here is kind of sloppy but let me know if I'm on the right track.
 
Your backswing/transition looks a good bit better.

In the preswings your front shoulder never swings forward over your front hip/knee/ankle, and you still aren't getting your left shoulder over your front foot on your pre-swings. Your front foot shouldn't be spinning in slow motion.

Your front leg is collapsing and spinning out, and your shoulders are swinging around too horizontally instead of more vertical pendulum straight forward.

Your front leg in the forward swing needs to brace up and mirror how your rear leg braces up in the backswing. Your hips are making a huge lateral move going forward, but your front foot never strides forward to catch it.


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I was a little rushed here leaving after a round, but I was trying to brace up more on my right leg.

I'm having trouble understanding the left shoulder above the right foot thing though. It feels like there isn't enough friction against the teepad or the ground to keep my foot from rotating slowly when I try to turn my upper body enough to get my shoulder there. I actually did one more practice swing when I remember to try and get my shoulders in the right position.

It looks to me like I'm still collapsing my right leg a little instead of fully bracing up leg locked. When should I extend my leg when I'm bracing? It feels kind of strange and unnatural when I try to extend it fully during the brace, it feels off timing wise. It may be a balance issue?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcPSrW4tyg4

Alright so this is after throwing for a while in the field. I am trying to keep my right leg from bending in the brace too much, and trying to keep my hips going laterally instead of rotating too much.

I was also trying to really feel the opposing forces of my weight shifting to the front, against my leg pushing into that from the ground.

I've noticed that its pretty different to get the timing down with the weight of my hand in practice throws vs the weight of a disc, everything has to get slowed down but just slightly to keep in time. Let me know how this looks.
 
Both your heels are staying flat on the ground and spinning out, so you aren't really shifting anywhere and rejecting yourself from shifting/getting balanced on your front/rear leg. Looks like you are trying to keep your head down as you never look targetward in practice swings. Your head/spine needs to shift/change tilt back and forth from one leg to the other leg like swinging/tossing a heavy sledgehammer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4CzVnITlo#t=5m56s

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So this is a quick one after work. I was focusing on trying to get my weight over the front foot. I did this by trying to have my back foot leave the ground and start swinging forward when my hand starts moving forward. I remember that that was something I was doing a while back and I'm hoping that it was forcing me to shift my weight forward.

I'm hoping that my sequence and timing is decent here, but it looks to me like I'm bending over too much and my right leg is still collapsing a bit in the brace. Hopefully this is good and I just need to tighten everything up, but you tell me.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBTLs4cJrvs


So I watched the videos and tried some of the stuff. I liked the demonstration in one of them where the guy throws his arm outwards and the body automatically counterbalances. I even tried to do this at the start of the video. I found that if I keep a narrower stance, and intentionally push my hips forward laterally, it feels like I'm automatically bracing, and it feels like a bunch of power is generated. However when I went out to try and apply this things felt weird and out of time again.

If I'm right, I think I'm close, but I'm timing my upper body wrong, and letting it lag too much. I think I need to keep the hip forward motion, but try and maybe do it slower, and let my upper body keep up with it. I had a couple of decent throws today, so I'm hoping this is progress.
 
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