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[Question] ID a disc or ask "What is the story on this disc...?" - Take II

Hansosaurus more then say some of the player named Pro plastic Avriar's the Classic Aviar is the one Aviar most common in white though yellow is a very close second. Also my mom has a old late 1990's micro bead Classic Aviar that has the same Patent Number on the bottom. Sometimes with use some of the Classic Aviar's get a micro bead on the bottom and they did make a Classic Aviar with a Micro bead too in the late 1990's. You can barley make out the Classic aviar logo on the disc but it is one old enough it just says Aviar big on it with a Little by Innova without the Little classic the same size as the by Innova. I did get her for Christmas a Classic Aviar but it is without a bead or has super micro bead on it if you carefully .
 
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Older Innova Eagle...

Hello! I've got this Innova Eagle that I've had for 8 or so years.
I bought it off CL in a 12 disc lot after my first disc golf round. I was hooked from the start.

I don't remember ever seeing one stamped like this and would love to know if there's anything unique/cool about it. Its definitely one of my all time favorites...throws like a dream.

So, Innova Eagle...
Plain front, small shimmering rainbow label on the rear above/below the nipple. Oh, and the ol' E/174 in the obvious spots. For some reason I took a marker to the 174--it wasn't that big and dark from the factory!
Lastly, has the patent #, and "Innova Champion.....Rancho Cucamonga, CAL. USA 91730"


Thanks for the help guys.


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So I got a unknown Innova Factory Second Xout disc. Its a nice disc, and flies pretty well for me, and I really want to find out which disc it is. Unfortunately there are 0 markings on it that tell me anything. I originally thought it was a TeeRex when I used an inaccurate tape measuring session. But I finally got some Digital Calipers and they nailed another unknown disc perfectly (It was a tern, that I figured out with tape measure, and confirmed with the calipers). The measurements are below, anyone have any idea what disc it might be? It has patent numbers on it and Rancho Cucumonga on the bottom if it helps. The first thing that threw me off is the diameter. According to the PDGA approved discs spreadsheet, Innova only ever made 2 discs at that diameter, the Dragon and Wahoo, non of which make sense for any of the other measurements.

Diameter: 21.0 cm
Inner Diameter: 16.6 cm
Rim Thickness: 2.2 cm
Rim Height: 1.1 cm

The only disc with these measurements, but with 21.1 diameter, is a Prodigy X3 specifically (at 1.7 height). So unless Innova makes Prodigy discs and i got one as an XOUT, that wont fit.

Images of measurements below. Its a Pearly translucent disc, has a few pearly blue highlights on the front, otherwise mostly greenish white. Ignore any writing you see on the rim, i put that on there when i assumed it was a TeeRex, so I wrote that in and its fligth numbers

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Need confirmation. Found disc, I believe it is an Innova Champion Max. I can make out what I believe is "M" after "Champion", but the profile doesnt look like a Monster or Mamba. It is a distance driver. Am I right in thinking this is a max?

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So I got a unknown Innova Factory Second Xout disc. Its a nice disc, and flies pretty well for me, and I really want to find out which disc it is. Unfortunately there are 0 markings on it that tell me anything. I originally thought it was a TeeRex when I used an inaccurate tape measuring session. But I finally got some Digital Calipers and they nailed another unknown disc perfectly (It was a tern, that I figured out with tape measure, and confirmed with the calipers). The measurements are below, anyone have any idea what disc it might be? It has patent numbers on it and Rancho Cucumonga on the bottom if it helps. The first thing that threw me off is the diameter. According to the PDGA approved discs spreadsheet, Innova only ever made 2 discs at that diameter, the Dragon and Wahoo, non of which make sense for any of the other measurements.

Diameter: 21.0 cm
Inner Diameter: 16.6 cm
Rim Thickness: 2.2 cm
Rim Height: 1.1 cm

The only disc with these measurements, but with 21.1 diameter, is a Prodigy X3 specifically (at 1.7 height). So unless Innova makes Prodigy discs and i got one as an XOUT, that wont fit.

Images of measurements below. Its a Pearly translucent disc, has a few pearly blue highlights on the front, otherwise mostly greenish white. Ignore any writing you see on the rim, i put that on there when i assumed it was a TeeRex, so I wrote that in and its fligth numbers

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None of the pictures are working for me, but I would say either destroyer wraith or xcal since I believe that they are the only 3 distance drivers to have pat#s(maybe the teerex as well). If you could post a new profile pic, I'm sure someone could help
 
Sorry for that, the images work for me, but it might be something with Google Photos, i tested it in Incognito mode, not logged int to see if the pictures load, but might not work. Here is an Album with all the pictures. The writing on the rim is mine, ignore it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Fmtxqe0lzBKLr6w1
 
I'm gonna guess old champion destroyer. Not as popular as the star version but very sweet fliers. What weight?
 
Its 173g. I went through a long conversation on a Disc Golf slack. And we narrowed it down to an Old Destroyer (measurements dont make full sense. the Height of the disc is 1.6-1.8mm). We also though Krait or Wraith, but someone mentioned the bubbly plastic was more akin to Discmania DDs. We narrowed it down to potentially a Discmania DD (since they are made in Innova factories. It has all the right measurements except Height (off by 1 mm) and Diameter (off by 1 mm). And I feel the 1 mm loss in diameter manifested in 1 mm height gain. making the DD a perfect match. a DDx also makes a tiny bit of sense. I looked at profiles of the DD and DDx and they seem to match, and the flight path and flight numbers match what ive been seeing with my newb beginner throws.

So definitely a 11 or 12 speed disc. close to 0 turn (maybe 1 due to being a bit beat in), and 2-3 fade. Which also matches very well for the DD and DDx.
 
I just realized you have the same callipers that you I have. I'll take some measurement.
 
The ddx, tern and krait have a very distinct wing that you should be able to feel. When I measure my wraiths wings I get about the same measurement you get.
I don't know very much about the dd but it does have a wraith wing.
 
disc id please

Gator Country Classic, the most recent year on the ring of dates around the stamp is 2004, so I assume this is a 2004 disc.
Awesome pearly, grippy plastic. Smaller rim like a PD.
I'm hoping Orc, but not sure. Could be starfire, sidewinder... No visible markings on back.
 

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Gator Country Classic, the most recent year on the ring of dates around the stamp is 2004, so I assume this is a 2004 disc.
Awesome pearly, grippy plastic. Smaller rim like a PD.
I'm hoping Orc, but not sure. Could be starfire, sidewinder... No visible markings on back.

Could also be a Beast, Valk or FB. Post a profile pic that would help a lot.
 
Won this Gateway Proto today. The guy who donated said he was told it was it was a devil hawk proto, but there's no thumb track. Ridiculously grippy, kind of soft, but I'm used to Fossil and G9 plastic when it comes to Gateway blends.

The other one is one my friend has, but no clue on what it is. He said the inner part is a "very crappy" plastic, and the outer mold is almost rubbery.
 

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That second discs is exactly what the stamp says it is: An RIP Graboide. Pretty beefy/no glide/questionable plastic overmold putter that was produced by Quest for RIP.

First one if it has no groove is a Chief OS I think. Not 100% as I have not actually held one, but I think the Chief has a Wizard-like lower wing, the Chief OS has a wing like the picture and the other one (?) has a magic-like lower wing.

Edit: Shaman is the low-profile Magic-wing putter.
 
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It says what it is on the stamp. Rip discs had two putters the relic and graboid. I believe the relic was just a beadless version of the graboid. They never gained any kind of popularity.
 
Won this Gateway Proto today. The guy who donated said he was told it was it was a devil hawk proto, but there's no thumb track. Ridiculously grippy, kind of soft, but I'm used to Fossil and G9 plastic when it comes to Gateway blends.

The other one is one my friend has, but no clue on what it is. He said the inner part is a "very crappy" plastic, and the outer mold is almost rubbery.

Three putt is correct, the first disc is a chief os. The chief os is a great stable putter off the tee if you like low profile putters.
 
Need to the sideview of the rim please.

Hard to tell without seeing the profile.

Gator Country Classic, the most recent year on the ring of dates around the stamp is 2004, so I assume this is a 2004 disc.
Awesome pearly, grippy plastic. Smaller rim like a PD.
I'm hoping Orc, but not sure. Could be starfire, sidewinder... No visible markings on back.
 
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