Only if their player rating is higher than whoever they are giving their opinion to.
We must never violate the most fundamental tenet of disc golf.
Another attempt to silence me.
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Only if their player rating is higher than whoever they are giving their opinion to.
We must never violate the most fundamental tenet of disc golf.
That isn't what I said.
I said that saying "as father with daughters" or "as a man with a wife" as justification for one's opinion is problematic. You're free to have your opinion. But, in my opinion, trying to white knight that opinion by putting the women in your life in front you is a poor attempt at lending that opinion legitimacy.
That's a Catch-22, isn't it? If they speak up as their own opinion, they're told it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect them. If they speak up on behalf of women they know, they're told it doesn't matter, because they're not speaking for themselves.
She's got all of the justifications to say what she says on the topic. As opposed to cisgender men.
I might not necessarily like what she says, or how she says it.
But she's absolutely got the right to do so, and to be heard, because she is at the very least potentially harmed in this.
Cisgender men are not harmed in this.
We really aren't.The players (the vast majority being cisgender men) fund the organization and are being taken for granted.
When will you be releasing the entire, raw survey data?
4. White men are the evil... I am sick of being lumped into this category. Bc I automatically get assumed im some bible beating, trump supporting, homosexual hating person. Which is not me.
In the grand scheme of things, PDGA divisions don't matter. It's not something life or death like cancer. But it is reasonable to that a parent hurts when their child hurts, or a spouse hurts when their husband/wife hurts.
Trivializing the experiences of those parents and spouses shows a complete lack of empathy.
Trivializing their opinions because they disagree with you shows intellectual laziness.
Trivializing their opinions because they all fall into one biological group (yes, even cis-gendered males) shows bigotry.
If you believe someone's opinion doesn't matter based on how they were born, then you need to learn to be a better human.
This is 100% bull****. Our entire sport is being harmed by the PDGA board's mishandling of this issue (and several others). The players (the vast majority being cisgender men) fund the organization and are being taken for granted.
When will you be releasing the entire, raw survey data?
The PDGA doesn't ask the membership, and they get slammed.
Then they do ask the membership, and they get slammed.
The survey -- remember the survey? It's in the thread title -- may be flawed, but it's more input than a handful of people who bother to contact the board directly, and a lot more input than people whining in forums and on social media.
I'm just going to re-post this over and over.If the PDGA were to enact a policy barring trans women from playing in female divisions as best I can tell (from discussion with a lawyer friend) it would be illegal in a number of states as well as a number of countries outside the US. Does this matter to anyone at all?
The survey -- remember the survey? It's in the thread title -- may be flawed, but it's more input than a handful of people who bother to contact the board directly, and a lot more input than people whining in forums and on social media.
If they release the raw data on the relevant questions AND they incorporate those opinions into their process on this issue and others, then we will have been heard.
This is 100% bull****. Our entire sport is being harmed by the PDGA board's mishandling of this issue (and several others). The players (the vast majority being cisgender men) fund the organization and are being taken for granted.
When will you be releasing the entire, raw survey data?
We really aren't.
That is exactly what you said. I literally quoted you. You said "If you aren't prepared to be told your opinion doesn't matter, don't voice it." You are willing to tell an entire group of people that their opinion doesn't matter, purely based on biological characteristics that they can't change. So thank you, for outing yourself as a bigot.
If the PDGA were to enact a policy barring trans women from playing in female divisions as best I can tell (from discussion with a lawyer friend) it would be illegal in a number of states as well as a number of countries outside the US. Does this matter to anyone at all?
Wow! Spectators matter. Without spectators we would have little money for touring FPO players to earn. This is a spectator sport.
The majority of FPO spectators are cisgender men. Can you please explain again why they're not harmed in this?
And, please don't be so dismissive of this point. Can you explain it without the snarky "Back to the general discussion again".