Proposed Course in South Jersey Facing Opposition - Help Needed DGCR

[scunham]

So for those excited to see another course here in South Jersey there has been some recent opposition.

http://www.facebook.com/SaveTimberCreekPark

They have also contacted several local papers

http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20121004/NEWS01/310040024/Discord-Park-Frisbee-plan-Gloucester-Township-draws-fight


They have allowed comments on Facebook but seem to be deleting most of them in favor of the course.


The course was originally approved and is now facing severe opposition.

http://www.camdencounty.com/county-news/disc-golf-course-coming-timber-creek-park



Anyone who has positive things to say about Disc Golf and how it benefits the land please post them on their facebook page. We need all the help we can get right now, so please don't bash them too much but simply state the positives of Disc Golf and what not...


http://www.facebook.com/SaveTimberCreekPark


Support this facebook page for the disc golf course!

http://www.facebook.com/TimberCreekDiscGolf?fref=ts

 

[discgolfcrazy]

will do, represent :hfive: also the park page makes out disc golf to be a bad thing, they act like jerks :frown:

 

[Disc Fiend]

Please help!!!! Their propaganda is ridiculous and it needs to be stopped!! we need to let them know how disc golf benefits the land and community, not destroys it!!

 

[Disc Fiend]

will do, represent :hfive:

Thank you!! Much appreciation.

 

[jtreadwell]

Man those are some ignorant people! I posted but it'll likely be deleted:thmbdown:

 

[blur]

just posted :

"A park should be accessible to everyone! How would you feel if the park were closed to EVERYONE? If you truly care about this parks environment then you would not enter the park ever (especially with dogs) and petition to close the park for good and allow nature to take over. Consider other people as well as the environment."

 

[chris deitzel]

You should always have a ecological study of the area to be used done before building a course. Rare species should be left alone.

I know this seems like it sucks, but perhaps there is a better way to work with everyone....

This is a common problem with disc golf courses. Areas need to be scoped out by environmentalists first and areas of concern should not be used in the design...

Disc golf is a lot tougher on the land than we would like to admit.

 

[scunham]

I agree with you Chris but I'm not sure as to what steps were taken when the area was first surveyed for use.

Regardless they were given approval for the course

The only rare species that they are worried about is the Jersey Devil!!!

 

[Disc Fiend]

Some posts from the course thread:

Updates from the happenings this weekend and the meeting today. Saturday we had a run in with a couple who were 100% against the building of the course in the park. After an attempt a some civil conversation I was informed that I was destroying their park and they would do what ever nessesary to stop us. Had another run in with them and they took a few 100 pics of us "so they could fill their FB page". I'll post a link but all the responses from people supporting the course were deleted.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/SaveTimberCreekPark?fref=tseted.

So much for an open and honest discussion with the opposition. After they left we had between 8 to 10 volunteers came out and got the fairways for holes 11 12 13 and 14 done! Great turn out and awesome effort by everybody! Today we met at the park to try to work things out but the couple opposed to the course refused to speek with us. They called a reporter from the paper to show township residents pictures of "the destruction of the park". We did meet with township officials who have and still support the project. I'll post after the freeholders meet to see if the work day is still on for this Saturday. Thanks to everyone who's come out and helped put in the course!

Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has helped with this course so far both in person and online. The coordinated effort to post the truth on their FB page yesterday was quite enjoyable to watch. These people opposing the course, who I had the displeasure of interacting with briefly in person, are seriously crazy. They have been deleting all comments that go against their agenda so that their lies are the only thing people see on the page. Keep posting positive dg comments if you can today.

As far as the course goes, I had the chance to walk 1-13 yesterday. Lots of work has been done and it is coming along very nicely. Going to be a long course with some really nice holes.

Here's the story that the paper wrote about the situation. His first lie is that he saw "workers bearing chain saws" we are not permitted to use a chainsaw. We are using simple hand tools. If we used a chainsaw and used it to cut down the size stuff that we are we would already be done the course. When he confronted me I was using a grass whip (it's like a pre-historic weedwacker)to cut the grass and stuff down on the fairway. The second one is that we are cutting 5 to 7 foot trees. I don't think this is a typo he has said things like this to scare the locals from the beginning.

http://www.courierpostonline.com/ar...0040024/discord-park-frisbee-plan-draws-fight

 

[chris deitzel]

I'm in a similar situation where I am building a course. All I can say if if you are building a disc golf course, make sure that the local council has recorded it in their minutes that they have approved the course and the area to be used.

A verbal approval is not good enough. The course must be presented to the local council and have it officially motioned.. If not, you can be in the situation that I am in. And kinda sounds like you are in here..

 

[Disc Fiend]

Some more posts from the course thread:

the mayor visited with the 'activist' last week, the time was set for 8am Friday, which I was there but no Mayor. He did end up showing at some other time last Friday though and walking through with only one point of view... :-(

Today, the course designer and man that proposed the course is walking through with the township officials, an environmental specialist, and basically the powers that make the decisions... After that, the designer (John) will get together with the local golfers and share what is going on, and the plan going forward - which should happen tomorrow.

Just running into some opposition, and may just be a delay, or have a very difficult time going forward. No idea how this will turn out at this point, we will know more tomorrow.

Meanwhile the opposition continues to gain support of those who are blindly following them and believing every lie they are being told. Their Facebook page is filled with the most ignorant, hypocritical comments you could imagine. If you have the time, share some positives about disc golf and try to get the truth across to these people. It will most likely be deleted by them but it can't hurt. Just don't "like" the page as they use the number of likes as a talking point in their favor.

http://www.facebook.com/SaveTimberCreekPark

 

[blur]

You should always have a ecological study of the area to be used done before building a course. Rare species should be left alone.

Agreed, always cover ya ass(ets)!

But as we see with many courses, there are always people who oppose!

 

[Rastaman]

Ridiculous the stances people take on issues that dont effect/hurt them or effect/hurt others

 

[blur]

they removed my post, those BASTARDS!!!

and banned me from posting again.

 

[atay87]

I posted.

 

[b-mart]

That seriously sucks, but one of your statements confuses me. How am I supposed to explain to people how disc golf "benefits the land". I don't know of a single thing that disc golf does for land. It might do things for the community, but for the land? One local niner around here was supposed to be shut down because of erosion concerns. Why? Because it used a seldom used area in the woods, and we were tromping through and killing the underbrush that would have held the land in place. The pulling of the course has been stalled for over a year now, but I understand their point. Even though a lot of us respect the land we're playing on, there are far too many disc golfers who have zero respect for anything. They trample down plants that don't need to be trampled, try to take down trees if they're small enough and in their line, and leave litter all over the course. It's unfortunate, but our sport is viewed as a light activity for a bunch of potheads and transients right now, and people like that just perpetuate the stereotype.

Just playing devil's advocate.

 

[tarel]

Sometimes i cry when i think of all those invasive species surrounding the trees and wildlife and realize its people. I wonder how many tears you all shed when you broke a blade of grass while walking through the woods. I saw that pic of you guys in the woods. Clearly destroying leaves and hopefully not ground worms or insects. Poor things. I do not know what this freesbee hockey thing is but you are destroying the planet.

lolz

 

[tarel]

i wonder how long till the 5 protesters chain themselves to a sign

 

[Disc Fiend]

Man those are some ignorant people! I posted but it'll likely be deleted:thmbdown:

just posted

I posted.

and Chris Deitzel posted on their page too,
Thanks for the support guys!

 

[wadevk]

This is truly a sad display by the opposition... Even the well worded, non-bashing posts by course supporters are being deleted. If the course does go through I am afraid they will be out there blocking fairways or vandalizing baskets.