In all honesty I'm not looking to get rid of this disc yet. I have a friend who mentioned a name nick sartori said this guy is the original founder of flying eye. Don't know if he is pulling my chain or not butthe disc is a 178g San marino roc it has a stamp with a yin yang in very center with a dead lightning bolt in one part and the old school flying eye stamp on other part of ying yang. Around the yin yang is the little dancing guys not the bears but the stick type figures. I can have a pic of the disc on here soon but just wanted to get an idea of who knew anything about the disc. If there is anyhthing to find out. Thanks