PMcBeth
.:4X World Champion Paul McBeth:.
McBeth had an R-Pro Roc in his bag for a little while. He used it for touchy upshots.
r-pro aviar not roc.
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McBeth had an R-Pro Roc in his bag for a little while. He used it for touchy upshots.
r-pro aviar not roc.
save yourself the trouble and money ...get a Ghost!
r-pro aviar not roc.
Because every time I break in another dx roc to straight, I have a backup for that slot in my bag. I have my rocs sorted in the garage, I have a pile of new ones, 10 straight ones and a few beat ones so that if I ever lose one of the rocs in my bag I don't have to wait for one to be ready to replace it. I still disagree that they change constantly, my current straight roc has flown the same for close to a year now, I know exactly what it's going to do. Ditto for the beat one, at this point even a point blank tree hit doesn't change the way it flies in a noticeable way.
The other part of the answer to your serious question is that none of the premium plastic rocs fly like a dx roc. They get more distance, have better glide, and the grip is way better. I have yet to throw any premium plastic mid that could replace my really beat roc for shots that start on a hyzer, flip up to dead straight for 275-300' then gradually finish right. Those premium plastic discs either are too stable and want to fade, or don't have the HSS to get that long straight flight segment. Also, I'd need 3-4 different molds to cover the shots I currently use my roc setup for, right now every mid shot has the same grip and the same feel in my hand which in my personal experience makes my mid shots more consistent.
All of that is why I do it. You're right that you can be a fantastic player without throwing base plastic discs, and without cycling rocs. I just disagree that my strategy has been made obsolete by newer discs and plastics.
It basically boils down to a difference in philosophy. Borrowing some slang from football, throwing premium plastic mids is like having a bell cow RB in each stability slot whereas cycling DX Rocs is a "mid by committee" approach.
Another benefit of cycling base plastic molds, besides the general benefits of mold minimalism, is that you build up a good number of discs (cheaply) to throw for field practice or putting practice. You learn to throw better a lot faster when you have multiple discs of the same mold in different stages of wear b/c of familiarity with the mold and learning to make subtle adjustments in form to adjust to the nuanced differences in stability of the discs (improves line shaping precision). If I could start over again, I'd have a pile of DX Rocs and DX Eagles and that is it besides my putter. Would have drastically shortened my learning curve and I wouldn't have to fret over losing precious discs on risky holes (more confidence = less strokes) b/c I'd have cheap back ups ready like Mashnut alluded to.
They make Rocs in r-pro?! :|
:thmbup: That is one of the reasons that I enjoy throwing Rocs so much. Besides the fact that it's such a great mold for many reasons I enjoy people messing with me or looking down on me for throwing Rocs. Earlier this evening at leagues before the round, another open player asked me what disc I would throw on a certain hole & I told him I'd use a beat KC Roc. He then responded "You & your Rocs, haven't you ever heard using rocks is bad for you." He continued to mess with me throughout the round, everybody on my card thought is was funny until after the 100th Roc joke. When he realized I was a few strokes ahead of him the Roc jokes got even more frequent with less joking & more of a harsh downing tone with them. Everyone on the card (not including me) told him to knock it off. I just didn't respond to any of his immature comments. I arked the last hole with (of course) a Roc & he shanked his shot into some bushes & eneded up getting a three & I got a par. Sincethe round was over I decided to make a sarcastic comment which I thought he would take as a joke. I told him if he would of thrown a Roc he wouldn't have gotten a three, he proceeded to flip out. He started yelling & made fun of my Grip bag calling me a "try-hard". I proceed to not say anything, he stormed off & drove away very quickly in his truck. He was already known as a cocky hot head, so noone else in my league was surprised & after everyone from my card told everyone the whole story they were laughing about it. I hadnt said two words to him during the round & who would of know that the Roc was a touchy subject for him . Now I love my Rocs even more, he's gonna be so pissed when he finds out what one of the two discs I'm using for two disc night next weekWelcome to the dark side...
I never had a Roc until a few months ago...There's something kinda strange about a person who's been playing for over a decade aain't never thrown a Roc...
I personally cycle Rocs, the Roc is the best Mid mold I've used to date. Mist people I know or have met who throw Rocs prefer KC Pro & DX plastic over R-Pro. R-Pro is less durable than DX/KC & some R-Pro Rocs are plus molds (which I hate). Just pick-up a DX Roc they're cheap & if you don't like the dome get a flat top Roc, they're amazing.
All rocs are plus mold right now. Kc pro, dx, roc3, r-pro.
Compare to an 11x or older and you'll immediately feel and see the difference.
All current Rocs are +mold compared to the Ghost. Perfect 8x Roc in 5 sweet plastic blends...