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If you get a domey one(champ), throw thumbers with it CONSTANTLY. Beat the living brakes off it. When you think that it is dead, throw it backhand...BAM! Best disc that you have ever owned!:D
I have three glitter champ teechickens..they do feel good, but I haven't thrown them yet. Stll throwing 1(11x) 2(12x's) and a cfr glo TL..old mold. All great flyers.
I have two aces on a 171 star leo...hated it when I first bought it...threw it into everything I could find that wasn't concrete...bam...wonderful disc.
That is what my CFR one is...I don't like mine, it is too stable (for me)in the heavy weights. I might like a 168-171. The max weight are for big arms only.
2001 Ce rocs and Ce aviars are amazing in the hand...and to throw. I don't own them(thrown some of my friends), as I can't make myself spend that kind of money on a disc. Are they woth it? If you have enough money...I guess.
I have this one..174/75. Blue wth a red stamp.
Pm me if you are interested.
Mine is used..not much, as it is too overstable for me.
I know it is not exactly what you are looking for, just wanted to offer.