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    Honestly, how long should it take to learn to throw 200ft

    What my nephew does wrong is throw from an open stance. He is sideways to the target, but he steps forward and his front foot goes to the right a little, so he's throwing with his chest towards the target instead of his shoulders. People who play a lot of catch frisbee throw this way and have...
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    Honestly, how long should it take to learn to throw 200ft

    I don't have a Comet, sorry, can't help you with that. Tech Disc. I'm going to retract my earlier thumbs down. I went to the soccer field this week to check my distances. I've not been practicing seriously, but I watch videos and do shadow swings every day, some things were coming much...
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    Honestly, how long should it take to learn to throw 200ft

    I think (not an expert by any means) that Tech Disc will not help with form at all, but might be useful in quantifying progress or lack of it. Video Analysis. I do not see how this is possible. If you are throwing 140 feet (not meters) then you are doing the mechanics wrong enough most of...
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    Honestly, how long should it take to learn to throw 200ft

    But you said you're throwing 140 feet. If that's the case, the form problems are not likely to be subtle. Cell phone quality video, full speed, side view and rear view, and share it on the Form Analysis forum. Even the beginners there will spot some obvious things to work on. Hey, some...
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    Honestly, how long should it take to learn to throw 200ft

    I was surprised by how much better 60 fps was than the default 30 on my iPhone. But at those distances, I'm pretty sure you can see what's wrong on full speed video, no need for slo-mo yet.
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    Babe Ruth does an X Step

    Not a full X step, but Sadaharu Oh stood on one leg while he waited for the pitch, hit 868 homers.
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    Tech disc test driven development

    I think this is a real conflict in the mental concepts - do we swing? (in which case maximum radius equals maximum velocity) or do we deep pocket (to maximize the effect of a multi-link lever.) My brain can't hold both swing concepts at once. Whether they are actually physically different I...
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    Nose up to flat to nose down putt

    Good, here's one more:
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    Terrible putting so I changed my technique

    By underhand do you mean goofy foot? If putting right handed, your left foot would be forward?
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    Nose up to flat to nose down putt

    Is that common? I took baseballs and putters over to the field this week. I was throwing the discs forehand roughly twice as far as the baseballs. I won't say how far that was because it's embarassingly short, but still.
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Thanks. I appreciate you trying this. I don't have a tech disc nor do I have your level of form. (did some video yesterday, very discouraging how little correspondence between what I thought I was doing and reality. Have to get back to doing more.) The vertical posture takes some of the...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Isn't the purpose of that to get on plane? At least it looks that way to me, could be I'm misunderstanding. If you look at the rear view of a pro at or near release, their spine is angled forwards at least 30 degrees and the arm is near 90 degrees straight out from the shoulder. That defines...
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    Nose up to flat to nose down putt

    He knows how to do it but not how to say it. My guess is that he's really talking about not using the upper arm. Baseball players mostly have the upper arm in a nearly straight line with both shoulders and sometimes the glove arm elbow throughout the throw. Ryan does too; it dips a bit...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Nope. I'm saying I don't know. They don't, in a backhand. Although you can throw an upshot a fair way with mostly just a wrist pop. Whether a forehand is analogous I don't know. I can flick a forehand with wrist when I'm stuck in a bush with nowhere to swing. It doesn't go very far but...
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    Simple Weight Shift Exercise

    Or instead of facing the target, you could face away like this person did:
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Thanks. I've been thinking that the wrist and the thumb/index attachment are both basically pin joints. From your data that's not correct for how the wrist functions; in plane it's really an extension of the forearm lever. When I look at forehand from Ryan Sheldon or other big arms, that...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    (trying to interpret) So, the inertial force from CoM of the disc does not pull the wrist into a neutral line, unlike a golf club releasing curled forward. But it can only pull the disc itself in a pivot around the connection point. ??? That implies some easy ways to mess the throw we...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    It seems reasonable to me that inertial forces will force the components to move in alignment and timing - things like the arm angle opening up, disc pivoting if it does, etc. And with a very light object, inertial forces are very low until acceleration gets pretty high. Think about throwing a...
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    Pop on your putt

    Another possibility is that whatever power comes from the leg motion is glute dominant rather than quad. The motion is not a small range of motion split squat, it's a single leg dead lift from a hang. In weightlifting/crossfit terminology. I say that because the weightbearing leg in front...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    The bold is my addition. Once the disc leaves the grip I know where the nose is. Before that, not so much, because during release it is in motion relative to the pointer finger. And the position of pointer finger at final separation varies and is hard to see. I suspect this has a lot to do...
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