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    Par Talk

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    Par Talk

    OK, then. Here is the scoring distribution for 1000-rated players on hole #7. Using the Par by Average Score method, this falls just under the cutoff of 4.95 so par of 4 would be indicated. Using the Par by Scoring Distribution method would indicate a par 5. Barely. However, because of...
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    Par Talk

    Not hole #7?
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    Par Talk

    Tell that to the unfortunate guy who has to play the hole just after Calvin.
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    Hole and Course Performance Statistics

    Because the Hole Length Variety stat is based on ratios. A hole is a different length when it is 20% larger or smaller than another hole. So, the vertical length on a logarithmic chart directly shows how different the lengths are. Also, so the two scales can be the same for both sports. Units...
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    Hole and Course Performance Statistics

    The holes are lined up shortest to longest from left to right. So the x-axis is the rank by length. The y-axis is the ratio of the hole's length to the average length of golf or disc golf holes, respectively. On a logarithmic scale.
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    Par Talk

    You may be thinking of "non", which is absolute. As an example, we can call someone "uneducated" if they went to school for only one day.
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    Par Talk

    ...and people say I'm pedantic. Which I am, so I'll ask for the source of your definition. Here's a reference in support of mine: "At that point Jack stood three under par, thanks to an outgoing 34 and a birdie 3 on the eminently unbirdieable 10th." Alfred Wright, "THREE WAS A CROWD", 1966...
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    Par Talk

    My take is that these are like other kinds of "bad design" holes. (Blind target, narrow OB creek on the fairway, high chance of lost discs, maybe include elevated baskets, most Mandos, Hazards, man-made obstacles, etc.) A few can be tolerated and may even add variety or a unique mental...
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    Par Talk

    Of course there is always a chance any hole could give up a birdie. During a windy day, for example. Or, an "unbirdieable" hole at an elementary school might get played by Simon in a video. Or a par 2 could be aced. For design purposes, "unbirdieable" means a small enough chance that players...
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    Par Talk

    Some holes are highly resistant to any attempt to assign par. At that point, the TD can look at other factors. Is the round rating for even par where the TD wants it? Does the course need a very tough or a very easy hole? Would players rebel against a hole that averages more than one over...
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    Par Talk

    First, read these short sections in the PDGA Par Guidelines: Definition of Par Experts for Skill Levels and Divisions Undesirable Ways to Set Par Then you can use one of the Acceptable Ways, or choose not to. The Acceptable Ways to Set Par are aids, not restrictions. Either way, always...
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    Hole and Course Performance Statistics

    A spinoff trivia item. I was looking at the 918 golf holes used on the PGA tour, as well as the 918 disc golf holes that hosted the most 1000-rated players in 2023. On a whim, I calculated hole length variety for all the holes combined. For disc golf, we use the equivalent of 12.73 different...
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    Fairfield Park discussion

    It definitely needs to be all on one map. Both parts should show up for any search. The answer is fractional values when two holes share a tee, fairway, or target. Count the unique tees, targets and fairways and divide by three. So, this is a 28 2/3rds-hole course. (If I counted right.)
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    2024 DGPT - Copenhagen Open

    That's a job for StatMando. I focus on the courses, not the players.
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    What does a "group majority" mean?

    "Voters" is different than "those eligible to vote".
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    [PDGA Major] Champions Cup 2024

    "803.02 Relief from Obstacles A. A player may obtain relief from the following obstacles: harmful insects or animals, or any item as designated by the Director. To obtain relief, the player may mark a new lie that is on the line of play, farther from the target, at the nearest point that...
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    [PDGA Major] Champions Cup 2024

    The issue at hand is not vague. It just doesn't always provide relief. So the question is: Should the book grow to allow for MORE cases of not playing it where it lies?
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    [PDGA Major] Champions Cup 2024

    There are other reasons besides OB why relief would not be available. Those would also need to be taken into account. Since rules are usually enforced from memory, it's better to keep them simple. Covering every kind of "Ooooh poor baby, we'll find you some really nice place to take your lie...
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    2024 dynamic discs open

    Correlation to ratings does not align well with distance, or even to high scores.
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