broomerang
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Firmish but not as hard as the latest luster FD3 run from last year. Not gummy though.
Very grippy. Standard dome on both my red ones.
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Firmish but not as hard as the latest luster FD3 run from last year. Not gummy though.
Very grippy. Standard dome on both my red ones.
DiscyBusiness
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Definitely love the lustery swirls in this green one I got:
fishballer06
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^^^
I bought 3 green one's from Infinite on Cyber Monday and they've all got beautiful swirls like that.
I bought 3 green one's from Infinite on Cyber Monday and they've all got beautiful swirls like that.
PMantle
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Were any second runs done for tournaments? I have a tournament stamp one that is more stable than any other I've thrown.
DinosaurThunder
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bubbles in the rim and pearly?
Maybe you have a pearly third run which had a few tourney stamps.
broomerang
Double Eagle Member
I didn't think the 3rd runs had bubbles in the rim.
If there is a more stable version on the 2018 luster I want it.
I noticed the "luster run" stamps available on the Discmania webstore appear to have less of the luster mix. I suspect that might make a difference but I don't have the budget right now to buy anything else and pay the extra shipping.
PMantle
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I'll check. It's in my disc rack at home.
slowplastic
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Are the 3rd runs pretty straight to fade like -0.5/2?
bogeyfreetilinfinity
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yes they definitely were, i got some factory seconds that had tournament stamps on them.
dehaas
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Yeah I had second runs in a tournament order the store did for me in 2015. Supposedly I got the last of their blank second run stock.
There are also 3man first run pds out there too...
There are also 3man first run pds out there too...
Twmccoy
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FD
Threw my first FD today. Champion 171g. Bit of a unique fairway driver here. It isn't overly fast (speed 7), but it glides for days and is actually really long for a fairway driver. I overshot a couple holes on the course today because the FD simply kept gliding straight past them. Its a remarkably straight flier. Whatever line the disc starts on is what it'll finish on. It bleeds right a little out of your hand, but nothing severe. The rim is convex, very similar to a Roadrunner. In the hand the disc reminded me of a Roadrunner or Leopard.
What really threw me was the fact that the FD doesn't come back at the end of the flight. There's no late fade. At all. A few of my shots ended up right because I didn't get the expected late fade. Usually with a Teebird or Thunderbird I'll purposely throw the disc a bit right and count on the late fade to put it near the basket. The FD had no such fade. The disc starts straight and ends straight.
Remarkable glide. The 6 rating there is accurate. The FD's flight reminds me of a Heat, but a tad slower and with a bit less high speed turn. The FD is floaty and it won't work in crosswinds or headwinds. I did throw it a couple times downwind and got good results. The FD is floaty enough to not get pushed into the ground when thrown downwind.
Overall I liked the FD, but I won't bag it. The FD is more of a finesse driver. When thrown hard it can turn a bit too much and go offline. The distance is effortless. The FD will cover 350' very easily and with little effort. This disc doesn't take much armspeed to fly flat either. Its super easy to throw and I'd highly recommend it to beginners or noodle arms. The FD performed very well powered down to 50%. Even thrown that lightly the disc will still fly straight for 325' or so.
Top distance I had with the FD was probably 375'. I could probably push it further, but who knows where the disc would end up. I found it most reliable from 325'-375'. The FD will do 375' without turning and burning too. That I liked. The disc definitely turns some, but it'll hold steady and not flip.
FD: 7, 6, -1, 1. These are the exact numbers printed on the disc, and I agree with them. Its a really floaty, neutral flying fairway driver. Easy to get up to speed with extremely little low speed fade. Surprisingly long too. One of (if not the) longest fairway driver(s) I've thrown.
Threw my first FD today. Champion 171g. Bit of a unique fairway driver here. It isn't overly fast (speed 7), but it glides for days and is actually really long for a fairway driver. I overshot a couple holes on the course today because the FD simply kept gliding straight past them. Its a remarkably straight flier. Whatever line the disc starts on is what it'll finish on. It bleeds right a little out of your hand, but nothing severe. The rim is convex, very similar to a Roadrunner. In the hand the disc reminded me of a Roadrunner or Leopard.
What really threw me was the fact that the FD doesn't come back at the end of the flight. There's no late fade. At all. A few of my shots ended up right because I didn't get the expected late fade. Usually with a Teebird or Thunderbird I'll purposely throw the disc a bit right and count on the late fade to put it near the basket. The FD had no such fade. The disc starts straight and ends straight.
Remarkable glide. The 6 rating there is accurate. The FD's flight reminds me of a Heat, but a tad slower and with a bit less high speed turn. The FD is floaty and it won't work in crosswinds or headwinds. I did throw it a couple times downwind and got good results. The FD is floaty enough to not get pushed into the ground when thrown downwind.
Overall I liked the FD, but I won't bag it. The FD is more of a finesse driver. When thrown hard it can turn a bit too much and go offline. The distance is effortless. The FD will cover 350' very easily and with little effort. This disc doesn't take much armspeed to fly flat either. Its super easy to throw and I'd highly recommend it to beginners or noodle arms. The FD performed very well powered down to 50%. Even thrown that lightly the disc will still fly straight for 325' or so.
Top distance I had with the FD was probably 375'. I could probably push it further, but who knows where the disc would end up. I found it most reliable from 325'-375'. The FD will do 375' without turning and burning too. That I liked. The disc definitely turns some, but it'll hold steady and not flip.
FD: 7, 6, -1, 1. These are the exact numbers printed on the disc, and I agree with them. Its a really floaty, neutral flying fairway driver. Easy to get up to speed with extremely little low speed fade. Surprisingly long too. One of (if not the) longest fairway driver(s) I've thrown.
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racer93
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I agree with your assessment but why not bag it? It is like a longer buzzz (or your fav mid) but you can throw it on lower ceiling holes. It + my leo3 are an indispensable combo for nearly any course...
broomerang
Double Eagle Member
I agree except for 2 key points. It can handle head/cross winds. <10mph of course but it doesn't have to be a calm day if you are controlling your angles.
The FD is all about speed and angle control. I never need to throw it hard and I can still get it out to 325-350 on any line. That's the beauty. It will actually finish left if you don't crank on it hard, start it on hyzer, and get enough spin on it. It takes time to learn all the nuances of this disc but it's a wonderful relationship.
The FD is all about speed and angle control. I never need to throw it hard and I can still get it out to 325-350 on any line. That's the beauty. It will actually finish left if you don't crank on it hard, start it on hyzer, and get enough spin on it. It takes time to learn all the nuances of this disc but it's a wonderful relationship.
Grippenripp
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Definitely love the lustery swirls in this green one I got:
Damn. I got a blue one and nothing like this. Wish I liked green discs right now. That stamp tho, sweeeet!
slowplastic
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Yeah I think it's pretty much the same as my assessment, with hand feel too. I find the disc is best in the 320-360' range for me. At the lower end of that range is where a mid would need too much height, you can just throw the FD the exact same and it'll cover another 30' on the mids for me.
The more I threw the FD the more I trusted it though, even in situations where it shouldn't leak right. Spend some time getting used to how much hyzer it needs, and it won't leak on you too bad...you'll get a Teebird tunnel line out of it but with even less fade. They also can carry pretty good for woodsy mild hyzers that just need to hold the soft line for the entire flight...put it on a bit too much hyzer and throw it with some air and it will carry that same left line the whole time and never seek the ground.
They bomb on high tailwind annies too.
It's basically the next step up from a Mako3 to me. Very easy disc to recommend.
Twmccoy
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I suppose I could bag it, but I don't have a serious need for the FD. The disc works fine. It basically goes on a perfectly straight line wherever you aim it. I'd have to throw it a little more on the course to fully learn it though. For me the FD isn't like my usual Teebird or Thunderbird at all. The thing also goes much further than I'm used to in a fairway driver.
Twmccoy
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I agree with these points. I will probably bring the FD out again soon and give it some more looks. I actually liked the way it flew, but I was wild with it. I didn't feel like I was overthrowing it, but at times I'd start it too far right and it would stay there. The FD will also blow 30' past a Teebird without any effort. Easy disc to overshoot holes with.
I just felt like the disc lacked the pinpoint precision of a Teebird or Thunderbird. The floaty glide and lack of late fade had something to do with that. Downwind is (IMO) where the FD really shines. It won't get forced down by the wind and will actually have a full flight. Teebirds and Thunderbirds are bricks thrown downwind.
slowplastic
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I throw seasoned Teebirds the same distance as the FD and on an even straighter HSS line...just seasoned Teebirds how I like them are not easy to come by. Whereas you can just buy an FD and know it needs some hyzer to do nearly the same thing, but with a little less headwind resistance.
I get what you're saying though, I bag FD, Teebird, and Thunderbird. In the open I will throw the Teebird and Thunderbird any time that it's not tailwind over the FD, they are just so predictable and still carry. But in the woods after learning the FD, it stole so many shots from my Teebird. I can just hit the gap and it does the rest. Glidey and easy enough to do the work for you, but not so touchy that it does random things that your throw didn't deserve. If I want a pinpoint landing zone, Thunderbird is way more predictable.
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Ordered two yellow, 171 luster's. got em in the mail. yeah, the luster has some swirl in it. not sure on these pop top dome's though.
I'm sure the dome helps with longer glidey shots. just concerned about how they will come out of the hand.
will probably field test these only, at first. then make a decision on rather or not to put these in the collector bin.
for reference sake the dome and feel reminds of the euro tournament fundraiser stamped explorers' that lat 64 ran.
plan to test them tomorrow, dry warm weather forecasted.
after that, I'm done... winter is setting in and my focus will be geared towards winter sports.
I'm sure the dome helps with longer glidey shots. just concerned about how they will come out of the hand.
will probably field test these only, at first. then make a decision on rather or not to put these in the collector bin.
for reference sake the dome and feel reminds of the euro tournament fundraiser stamped explorers' that lat 64 ran.
plan to test them tomorrow, dry warm weather forecasted.
after that, I'm done... winter is setting in and my focus will be geared towards winter sports.
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test run on these new luster's:
-yellow 171 pop top lusters
-compared to two 175 pop top glow moonshine explorers
- Blue sixth run 175 Fd's
The sixth run FD's were immediately put to the side because they are more stable and have little dome (not a good comparison).
The explorer's mirrored the dome and flew similar.
Despite the pop top these were still a bit stable, and held the line very well. Low turn, high glide.
Not sure if these will replace my blue stable heavy FD's only because they feel a little better in the hand.
For a high arm speed these things will yield big anny lines. Surprisingly, no turn and burn on these if thrown proper.
Over and out.. Back to winter sports
-yellow 171 pop top lusters
-compared to two 175 pop top glow moonshine explorers
- Blue sixth run 175 Fd's
The sixth run FD's were immediately put to the side because they are more stable and have little dome (not a good comparison).
The explorer's mirrored the dome and flew similar.
Despite the pop top these were still a bit stable, and held the line very well. Low turn, high glide.
Not sure if these will replace my blue stable heavy FD's only because they feel a little better in the hand.
For a high arm speed these things will yield big anny lines. Surprisingly, no turn and burn on these if thrown proper.
Over and out.. Back to winter sports
