Toe or Heel?

[Glendor]

I have been watching some videos on you tube of pros throwing and they all seem to rotate on their heel during the follow through. Does this give you more distance or is it just a habit? I rotate on my toe and when I tried my heel I almost twisted my knee, I must be doing it wrong though.

 

[ReinZ_96]

ive always thought that rotating on the heel would give you better weight shift, therefore having a more nose down throw, if your grip is sound. but idk if it helps you or hurts you..i dont even know if i rotate on my toe or heel so i dont really think about it

 

[valkcro]

Heel gives a tighter rotation though the core.

 

[JTacoma03]

Pros encourage heel rotation, but truthfully I haven't gotten it yet (used to pivoting in basketball) and I can still throw 400' golf shots so...

I am trying to learn heel rotation though, I'd like to throw pro level 500' golf shots, lol.

 

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

Rotating on your heel is more efficient and is much less stress on your knees.

 

[ohtobediscing]

It appears that I am using heel, but only if I am x-stepping. If throwing from stance, I appear to be using the ball of my foot.

 

[Ryan P.]

heel rotation leads to more accuracy

 

[Violets caddy]

Heel, it opens your hips.
Try spinning on your toes and see how your hips stay together, now try it on your heel and you can feel them open up.
Lots more power in open hips

 

[jenb]

Teh Pros at the Am World Doubles Clinic promoted heel pivot because it allows you to get a longer and more powerful pull through your center of gravity.

I started working on heel pivot and couldn't get anywhere until I worked it into my stand still approach shots.

 

[UncleSweat]

Heel pivot added 30 feet off the tee instantly.

 

[woodcutter]

Iv had 30 plus yrs in Martial Arts, and was tought to move on my toes, to be quick and light. This heel thing intregs me. For 30 more feet Ill give it a wack.

 

[Tager23]

just slowed down my throw today and realized i was pivoting on my toes, after an hour of field practice i was finally able to pivot comfortably on my heel and i can tell i can get more power and D with less effort. The downside is my accuracy is wack now...

 

[Greatzky]

I was always trained to pivot off the ball/toe of your foot. This was back in 2003. From spending some time training with Bradley Williams and watching other touring pros almost all of them pivot off of their heel. I have a hard time doing this because it throws off my timing, but it increases my pull through speed as well as my hip, torso, shoulder turn.
The main problem I have with heel pivot is that I can't seem to get my body weight as "forward" as I would like and I feel like I'm leaning back when i pivot this way.

-Scott Lewis
Hyzer Flip Disc Golf

 

[nrihan]

I feel as if I lean back and lose power when I heel pivot. I think I just need to get more field practice in to correct this.

 

[kutz167]

I recently transitioned to a heal pivot from a toe pivot, as well as lengthening my pull back, After an hour or two in the field, I managed to add about 50' or more to my average drive by the next day... I'm a believer!

 

[bneely]

I'll add to the chorus recommending heel pivot. Just switched a month ago, but as I'm getting more comfortable with the feel I find I'm able to retain the same control with added distance from a much better hip rotation.

For me, I find that I don't have to emphasize putting my plant weight on my heel, but simply _not_ focusing on putting weight on the ball of my foot, and really feeling my hip turn clearing all the way through just makes the heel pivot happen naturally.

 

[cfair]

It goes something like this Heel to Toe. Most people are actually doing it during their throw but transition their weight from heel to toe to quickly. Go youtube some videos of pros driving and you will see that they pivot on their heel roughly 90 degrees and then their follow through is on their toe or the side of their foot ala Barry Schultz and Dan Beto.

 

[jtencer]

I used to think that I pivoted on the ball of my foot, but I looked at a slow motion video of me throwing and I definitely pivot on the heel first and then onto the ball of my foot for the follow through.

I'd like to point out that it can be toe-heel-toe. When you plant your foot, you can put the toe down first but as your weight comes forward your heal should come down and as you start rotating your toe should come up just slightly so that you don't wrench your knee (flat feet are bad).

 

[DiscChainBasket18]

'Toe' means your leaning forward. This is a no-no. Your hip rotation is restricted in this position. (this used to be my issue). Lead with the hips!

 

[asjzn6]

Toe vs heel

I am sure most on the forum have seen the video with dave f, GG, Brad Schick and McBeth. Dave and GG talk about rotating on your heel, they made valid points, i wondered if i did this, for the most part as i practiced it felt that way, then one day i was out when the pads were dry but the grass was wet, as i drove it was obvious that i rotated on my heel, try it out some time