[Vibram] Vibram Disc Golf Thread (Part II)

[Johnny Depth]

Never mind.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

What should Johnny select for each disc in terms of Firm, Medium, Soft? Which weights fly best for each disc? I would offer suggestions but the only Vibram discs I have are a medium Summit (my primary putter), a medium Ibex, and hopefully an OS Lace in my mailbox today.

this is personal opinion really as in certain conditions and situations as well as personal preferences are different.

Softer vibram molds beat-in slower (are more durable) but also get extremely floppy in the heat. Med seems to be the happy medium for me lol. Firm have a more traditional feel to your denser plastics but will season in much quicker being less for-giving. Vibram molds IMO do not seem as impacted by weight compared to others I have thrown with different plastic blends also generally being a factor on other companies-- X-link is X-link.

 

[maansmit]

....this is a joke, right? lol

Why would it be a joke? You asked a question, I provided a resource to answer it.

 

[eegor]

What should Johnny select for each disc in terms of Firm, Medium, Soft? Which weights fly best for each disc? I would offer suggestions but the only Vibram discs I have are a medium Summit (my primary putter), a medium Ibex, and hopefully an OS Lace in my mailbox today.

I like everything in their x-link medium. The soft is too floppy and the hard doesn't have a much grip. But, that's just me.

I will add that I rarely use Vibram drivers during the Texas summer. During the summer down here, everything is grippy because it's about to melt.

 

[maansmit]

I prefer the softs.

 

[wkramer11]

To johnny and other new vibram users

So I need some help from the vibram guys.

After throwing some vibram discs yesterday, I want to switch from MVP to vibram.

What discs should I get in order to be a top-tier vibram disc golfer?

Thanks for the input!

Hey man, I picked up a medium 172 VP a year and a couple months ago, and hated it because it was a straight meathook. All it wanted to do is go left. I was new to the game though so didn't really grasp the whole over/understable stuff just yet. About a month passed and I finally understood the differences in stability, so I gave my VP another run.

Safe to say from that day on, the VP hasn't left my bag for any reason, Expect recently because I lost it :doh: but i have another.

After liking the VP so much, I gave other Vibram disc a chance. Picked up a Summit and a Trak. I fell in love fast with my Trak and Summit. Both dead straight with little effort put into the throw. Both are considered to be Vibrams more under stable discs.

Now I only throw Vibram and use every disc they have. Honestly if you're wondering which one to buy, I hate to say it but, all of them. Each disc has a purpose. Its not like innova where you have 3 discs that are a fraction different in stability.

Go to marshall street disc flight guide and just look and see what each disc is close to, they are pretty spot on with there cart, once again in my opinion.

I'm starting to really like my Obex!!!

 

[Johnny Depth]

Hey man, I picked up a medium 172 VP a year and a couple months ago, and hated it because it was a straight meathook. All it wanted to do is go left. I was new to the game though so didn't really grasp the whole over/understable stuff just yet. About a month passed and I finally understood the differences in stability, so I gave my VP another run.

Safe to say from that day on, the VP hasn't left my bag for any reason, Expect recently because I lost it :doh: but i have another.

After liking the VP so much, I gave other Vibram disc a chance. Picked up a Summit and a Trak. I fell in love fast with my Trak and Summit. Both dead straight with little effort put into the throw. Both are considered to be Vibrams more under stable discs.

Now I only throw Vibram and use every disc they have. Honestly if you're wondering which one to buy, I hate to say it but, all of them. Each disc has a purpose. Its not like innova where you have 3 discs that are a fraction different in stability.

Go to marshall street disc flight guide and just look and see what each disc is close to, they are pretty spot on with there cart, once again in my opinion.

I'm starting to really like my Obex!!!

I appreciate the input greatly, but I will not throw from a company that has so much other stuff going on. If vibram was completely dedicated to disc making and not all that other stuff, I'd switch. The fact that they make a bunch of random stuff suggests they don't put the quality into the discs.

 

[NuNinja]

I appreciate the input greatly, but I will not throw from a company that has so much other stuff going on. If vibram was completely dedicated to disc making and not all that other stuff, I'd switch. The fact that they make a bunch of random stuff suggests they don't put the quality into the discs.

Eh? But they definitely know rubber and molding...

EDIT
I'm guessing you don't know that MVP stands for Maple Valley Plastics?
Also, it's not like Vibram does all their stuff under one roof.

 

[StevenDodge]

Where the hell are the OS laces at?

Thank you all for your patience. We're on our third take and our currently testing the molds in production. (Yes, I said molds ...)

Having said that, I'm not saying that the next discs the testers see is going to be an OS Lace. It might not be a new disc at all.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

I appreciate the input greatly, but I will not throw from a company that has so much other stuff going on. If vibram was completely dedicated to disc making and not all that other stuff, I'd switch. The fact that they make a bunch of random stuff suggests they don't put the quality into the discs.

The company is originally a shoe sole company based out of Italy, best known for making soles for OUR military because it's nearly indestructuble. Plus your rhetoric is flawed...a little, MVP makes plastics for people Michigan, so they don't primarily concentrate on discs.

 

[Kodachrome]

Vibram is a fairly well reputed company. I've used their shoes for just about everything (the five fingers shoes; most of your footwear probably uses their rubber as well) from bouncing to hiking to bar backing (slippery when you spill alcohol) and snow removal for ice. They've mastered their material; it stands to reason they could make a disc as well. You buy stuff made by GE, right?

Don't get me wrong; I see where you're coming from, but at the same time switching your whole bag over seems a little overkill. Pick a putter and see what's up. I drive short holes with a ridge, putt with either a pure or a summit (they're fighting each other.) If it's windier, I'll use the ridge for putting too, but I need a shallow design for my smallish hands.

TL;DR version: try one first if you have a shop available. if you like it, buy one and use it. they'll last forever. if you don't like it, sell it. not exactly a huge risk since this whole forum is full of people who will probably want whatever you've got. Have some fun; that's what it's all about. vibram puts out a good, consistent product across the board. they have to. whether or not you like it, that's something you won't know until you try!

as for me, i left my summit medium in the rear car window all summer/winter and noticed it hardened up a bit, doesn't fly the same (my fault, of course). anybody else had this happen? maybe UV exposure on the rubber?

 

[StevenDodge]

A little interesting that he didn't specifically say that the OS Lace would be out to testers in two weeks. He said one of the four projects will be out to testers in two weeks. Maybe it will be something else?

Hmmm....

 

[StevenDodge]

I appreciate the input greatly, but I will not throw from a company that has so much other stuff going on. If vibram was completely dedicated to disc making and not all that other stuff, I'd switch. The fact that they make a bunch of random stuff suggests they don't put the quality into the discs.

Hi Johnny,

I appreciate you keeping the thread lively while I was out back smoking and chilling. I'm back now so you can pull the trigger or pull the plug.

Under the assumption that your questions and comments are legit, I can assure you that Vibram stands behind their three lines of products (aka, bunch of random stuff).

Soling - Vibram is the world leader in performance out soles, having invented the rubber sole in 1937.

FiveFingers - Vibram is the world leader in minimalist running shoes, having invented toe shoes in 2001 (I think, but go ahead and look it up rather than quote me).

Golf Discs - A clever way to word this would be, Vibram is the world leader in compression molded rubber golf discs (since we are the only ones that make discs this way), but realistically, we, like MVP and many others, are a relatively new entrant into the disc golf arena. Our discs are different and testing and performance are critical to our success.

Also, supporting the sport is critical to us. Vibram is the presenting sponsor of the PDGA National Tour, the Vibram Open (vibramopen.com) and the Players Cup (playerscup.org). Additionally, we founded the Vibram Birdie Bash this year which has gotten thousands of people to participate in their first disc golf tournament and is spreading awareness of the game through the grass roots.

Buy the discs that work best for you from a company that you trust, that is involved in the sport.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

Vibram is a fairly well reputed company. I've used their shoes for just about everything (the five fingers shoes; most of your footwear probably uses their rubber as well) from bouncing to hiking to bar backing (slippery when you spill alcohol) and snow removal for ice. They've mastered their material; it stands to reason they could make a disc as well. You buy stuff made by GE, right?

Don't get me wrong; I see where you're coming from, but at the same time switching your whole bag over seems a little overkill. Pick a putter and see what's up. I drive short holes with a ridge, putt with either a pure or a summit (they're fighting each other.) If it's windier, I'll use the ridge for putting too, but I need a shallow design for my smallish hands.

TL;DR version: try one first if you have a shop available. if you like it, buy one and use it. they'll last forever. if you don't like it, sell it. not exactly a huge risk since this whole forum is full of people who will probably want whatever you've got. Have some fun; that's what it's all about. vibram puts out a good, consistent product across the board. they have to. whether or not you like it, that's something you won't know until you try!

as for me, i left my summit medium in the rear car window all summer/winter and noticed it hardened up a bit, doesn't fly the same (my fault, of course). anybody else had this happen? maybe UV exposure on the rubber?

Sounds like your summit dry rotted. It's gotta have some moisture and oil, it was living at one point lol Kinda

 

[Johnny Depth]

Thanks Steven! That info was top-notch. I will buy vibram soon!

 

[DeusRex]

Sounds like your summit dry rotted. It's gotta have some moisture and oil, it was living at one point lol Kinda

This makes me wonder if I should be oiling my discs now lol.

 

[Johnny Depth]

These discs can dry rot?

 

[Kodachrome]

yeah; i dunno. i figure it's kind of a one-off. i left it there for a looooooooong time; started using it again this season and noticed it was more stiff; the color was off a little and it didn't have the same feel. local guy at a shop told me to throw it in a microwave (did not know about that!) and it felt nice . . . while it was warm.

**shrug** who knows; it shouldn't have been left out so long anyway.

***edit***

i don't really know if they can or not. i just had a weird experience with mine because i obviously didn't take care of it. it would screw up plastic, too.

 

[DeusRex]

These discs can dry rot?

My oldest is only about a year old, but it is still supple.

 

[eegor]

These discs can dry rot?

All discs can dry rot. The tires on your car can dry rot. Keep them out of the sun when you're not using them.