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Weird, I was literally just thinking of Philo. Thanks man, will adjust nextPump/push air to target swinging out. Disc should be closer to vertical at top, knuckles up to sky.
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Practice round on local meat grinder course report:Stand up on rear leg/toes. You are so flat footed/sinking.
Stay tall and fall on rear leg. Don't be a jack in the box.
instant feedback note
Haven't followed the entire conversation, but most recent video seems better. Compare the size of the "triangles" of basement floor made when your legs cross between this video and the others.
general theory note
Seems like your right leg is the dominant one* that does most of the work/lifting propelling your mass this way and that when you locomote in daily life. In the right-hand-back-hand-x-move throw, left leg should be the greater propellant (right is the stopper). In most of your basement throws, you are creating most of your forward energy with the right leg, which is heavily influencing your posture/lean. As you know, when a biped moves from one leg to another, the bottom of the spine moves toward the new-weight-bearing appendage while the top of the spine moves counter to it. The magnitude of the bend/lean/posture is related to that of the force being created by the weight-bearing-appendage. So, in the context of moving laterally in the right-hand-back-hand-x-move, using the right leg as main propellant generally creates more lean toward back of tee pad.
*here's a dominance test: sit on the floor and try to get to a standing position. Which leg did you use? Interesting note - it seems like it's physically impossible (without help from a teammate) to stand up from a on-the-floor-seated-position using both legs equally to lift your mass.
personal practice note
Rewiring this preferred leg dominance pattern in the context of the disc golf swing is a lot of work but simple enough to practice. Most of the initial practice should be without a disc in hand/trying to throw. I start my right-hand-back-hand-x-move throw from a mostly forward looking/square position, so to practice left leg propulsion, I put my right leg behind my left (important) to start and then go from there. For your more lateral initial address position, you'll probably need to cross your right leg in front of/behind left to feel the left leg activate as that Prime Mover and then go from there.
pro form video note
Watch Garrett's legs here - there's some pitter patter at the start, but watch which step really initiates his forward propulsion. Same as in the Simon video above.
I had mentioned it way back I think but also never shared how gruesome the inside looks, which no doubt probably influences the leverage and how I balance on it too lol. Plus you've done a lot for me in any case my friend I also know I don't want to turn this into a "strength" move, but there is still a bit of asymmetric mobility/strength in the supporting muscles of my left leg. So I think I'll just keep shoring that up as best I can which is good for the rest of life anyway...I tried the leg dominance test, it doesn't make a difference which way I go. I think it has more to do with learned motor skill than dominance, unless there is no distinction. I still feel a little stronger on my right leg doing a pitching windup because it's been so engrained, while doing a lefty pitching windup has massively improved since playing disc golf/learning BH skills. I could barely do a windup lefty when I started, zero balance/motor control.
Your left leg being physically shorter now makes a lot sense, wish I knew(or remember) this info before. Makes sense why you tend to lean back away. My left leg is slightly longer than my right.
Start with your feet close together and bend/move your front leg so you are standing up on rear leg. Note how my front foot is out of the way/little pressure. Your front foot is out there with pressure impeding a more aggressive initial targetward move.
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Wait do you also use a lefty Forehand now too? I forget.